Thread for Things That Made You Frown Today

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Originally Posted by Lilith057

2.5% of my Sales. And if we aren't getting at least 15%, we must be doing something wrong.

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Originally Posted by Atlanteax

I support the trend for restaurants to charge slightly higher prices, to include tips by default ... whereas you then only further tip if the service was compelling.

This is how it goes in the rest of the world, iirc, where in some places it is considered rude to tip.

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I still think tipping is stupid. If Taco Bell can pay its employees higher than minimum wage, any other nice restaurant should be able to do the same thing or better.

For those restaurants that don't, where does all the profit go? Manager making too much or what?

- I do tip at places where it is deemed appropriate, but I just don't understand the whole concept. I think the problem is in having waiters in the first place. So many of these high priced but common restaurants are places I would consider a 'middle ground' place. They aren't cheap food, where you can pick it up at the counter, but they should be. They aren't an actual fancy high priced restaurant the 'rich' would frequent as a status symbol. They are like places people are spending too much money to pretend like they are special, and require people to wait on them. Personally I can put in my own order, I can pick it up, and I can refill my own drink - usually much better than my waiter. Drink refills are the one perk I look forward to, and almost no waiter gets done in a timely manner because they service too many tables, or spend their time in the back instead of the front. Decent restaurant should have specific people doing drinks only. I go spend $100 bucks for a group, I still don't think one person deserves $25 for the service they do. Even if I were rich, I don't see wasting money like that.

So yeah, I see waiters as something that is way too common, isn't a real job. But a service for the rich, or wanna be rich. Servants.

I recall a similar topic like this a long time ago... I am too lazy to look for it though.

I would love to get paid a real wage for serving. I actually enjoy what I do, for the most part. I work 40 hours a week, 6 days. I am the only server at my restaurant that gets full time hours. Since I changed my schedule around and now work lunch Monday-Friday, I have seen a decrease in the amount of money I am bringing home. If we could just do away with tips altogether and get paid a reasonable amount, I would be happy.

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Originally Posted by Lilith057

I would love to get paid a real wage for serving. I actually enjoy what I do, for the most part. I work 40 hours a week, 6 days. I am the only server at my restaurant that gets full time hours. Since I changed my schedule around and now work lunch Monday-Friday, I have seen a decrease in the amount of money I am bringing home. If we could just do away with tips altogether and get paid a reasonable amount, I would be happy.

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Make a union, and you stand a better chance of getting the treatment (including wages) you want. Nobody ever gets what they deserve in this life, only what they have the leverage to negotiate.

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Originally Posted by AestheticDeath

I still think tipping is stupid. If Taco Bell can pay its employees higher than minimum wage, any other nice restaurant should be able to do the same thing or better. For those restaurants that don't, where does all the profit go? Manager making too much or what?

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Of course it goes to management. Waitstaff are legally required to be paid the full minimum wage BEFORE tips are considered in multiple US states, and yet those states still have perfectly viable restaurants. The only reason other restaurants don't do it is the employees aren't organized enough to demand it and the owners want more profits. There's nothing evil about this, it's just basic economics. If we (society/government) let people exploit others for profit, some people will do so.

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Make a union, and you stand a better chance of getting the treatment (including wages) you want. Nobody ever gets what they deserve in this life, only what they have the leverage to negotiate.Of course it goes to management. Waitstaff are legally required to be paid the full minimum wage BEFORE tips are considered in multiple US states, and yet those states still have perfectly viable restaurants. The only reason other restaurants don't do it is the employees aren't organized enough to demand it and the owners want more profits. There's nothing evil about this, it's just basic economics. If we (society/government) let people exploit others for profit, some people will do so.

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You can also negotiate on an individual basis if you're a valued employee. Smaller businesses are afraid of unions, because they're forced to include the borderline crappy employees as well.

It took opening a dispute on Paypal to get any sort of cooperation from the guys I tried buying something from.

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Originally Posted by AestheticDeath

I still think tipping is stupid. If Taco Bell can pay its employees higher than minimum wage, any other nice restaurant should be able to do the same thing or better.

For those restaurants that don't, where does all the profit go? Manager making too much or what?

- I do tip at places where it is deemed appropriate, but I just don't understand the whole concept. I think the problem is in having waiters in the first place. So many of these high priced but common restaurants are places I would consider a 'middle ground' place. They aren't cheap food, where you can pick it up at the counter, but they should be. They aren't an actual fancy high priced restaurant the 'rich' would frequent as a status symbol. They are like places people are spending too much money to pretend like they are special, and require people to wait on them. Personally I can put in my own order, I can pick it up, and I can refill my own drink - usually much better than my waiter. Drink refills are the one perk I look forward to, and almost no waiter gets done in a timely manner because they service too many tables, or spend their time in the back instead of the front. Decent restaurant should have specific people doing drinks only. I go spend $100 bucks for a group, I still don't think one person deserves $25 for the service they do. Even if I were rich, I don't see wasting money like that.

So yeah, I see waiters as something that is way too common, isn't a real job. But a service for the rich, or wanna be rich. Servants.

I recall a similar topic like this a long time ago... I am too lazy to look for it though.

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Are you that guy that tips like $5 on a $200 bill with 8 people?

Only when you are the server. More hot dogs please. :P

But I don't actually tip that bad, or go out with large groups. And most people pay their own checks.

I need someone to bring me a mother fucking burrito, with guac and sour cream and carne asada and salsa and nomnomnomn.

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Originally Posted by iJin

I need someone to bring me a mother fucking burrito, with guac and sour cream and carne asada and salsa and nomnomnomn.

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When is Amazon going to start delivering food? I want my drone delivered pizza, dammit!

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

When is Amazon going to start delivering food? I want my drone delivered pizza, dammit!

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I ordered pizza today. Shit was almost an hour late.