Yep, a proud 87Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Yep, a proud 87Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
He didn't use violence to push an agenda. That is what terrorism is. Terrorism isn't just "making someone scared" which you see to think it is. Otherwise, ever violent criminal ever would be convicted of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Hopefully, this time he will understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
I doubt it though.
He's retarded.
Yes, you keep repeating that over and over. Except that's not the definition of Michigan's terrorism statute and your opinion doesn't change that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Not a lawyer but this seems like an awfully high bar to jump;Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
(EMPHASIS ON "ALL OF THE FOLLOWING")
750.543b Definitions.
Sec. 543b. As used in this chapter:
(a) "Act of terrorism" means a willful and deliberate act that is ALL of the following:
(i) An act that would be a violent felony under the laws of this state, whether or not committed in this state.
(ii) An act that the person knows or has reason to know is dangerous to human life.
(iii) An act that is intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence or affect the conduct
of government or a unit of government through intimidation or coercion.
The second part could be argued if the defense proves he is not mentally sound.
The third part is the hurdle (below is more from the same article)
(b) "Dangerous to human life" means that which causes a substantial likelihood of death or serious injury
or that is a violation of section 349 or 350.
(c) "Harmful biological substance", "harmful biological device", "harmful chemical substance", "harmful
chemical device", "harmful radioactive material", and "harmful radioactive device" mean those terms as
defined in section 200h.
(d) "Material support or resources" means currency or other financial securities, financial services, lodging,
training, safe houses, false documentation or identification, communications equipment, facilities, weapons,
lethal substances, explosives, personnel, transportation, including any related physical assets or intangible
property, or expert services or expert assistance.
(e) "Person" means an individual, agent, association, charitable organization, corporation, joint
apprenticeship committee, joint stock company, labor organization, legal representative, mutual company,
partnership, receiver, trust, trustee, trustee in bankruptcy, unincorporated organization, or any other legal or
commercial entity.
(f) "Renders criminal assistance" means that the person with the intent to avoid, prevent, hinder, or delay
the discovery, apprehension, prosecution, trial, or sentencing of a person who he or she knows or has reason
to know has violated this chapter or is wanted as a material witness in connection with an act of terrorism
pursuant to section 39 of chapter VII of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 767.39, does any
of the following:
(i) Harbors or conceals that other person.
(ii) Warns that other person of impending discovery or apprehension.
(iii) Provides that other person with money, transportation, a weapon, a disguise, or false identification, or
any other means of avoiding discovery or apprehension.
(iv) Prevents or obstructs, by means of force, intimidation, or deception, anyone from performing an act
that might aid in the discovery, apprehension, or prosecution of that other person.
(v) Suppresses, by any act of concealment, alteration, or destruction, any physical evidence that might aid
in the discovery, apprehension, or prosecution of that other person.
(vi) Engages in conduct proscribed under section 120, 120a, or 122 or chapter XXXII.
(g) "Terrorist" means any person who engages or is about to engage in an act of terrorism.
(h) "Violent felony" means a felony in which an element is the use, attempted use, or threatened use of
physical force against an individual, or the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a harmful biological
substance, a harmful biological device, a harmful chemical substance, a harmful chemical device, a harmful
radioactive substance, a harmful radioactive device, an explosive device, or an incendiary device.
History: Add. 2002, Act 113, Eff. Apr. 22, 2002.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Seran
It is literally the third item in the law. It is 100% Michigan's definition. You even posted it yourself. Stop being contrary just to be contrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Again, the third clause "(iii) An act that is intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence or affect the conduct of government or a unit of government through intimidation or coercion." That REQUIRES him to be pushing an agenda by use of violence or threat of violence. He hasn't as far as anything that has been released.
He's not being contrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
He said something stupid... and even posted a link that proved he was wrong.
Instead of just moving on, he's digging in his heels and defending his stupidity.
That's Seran 101.
If you knew how to read, you would have realized by now that literally 0 people are defending him. Instead people are arguing the semantics of what constitutes "terrorism," since he's also being charged with terrorism despite there being no political or religious motivation behind it, which is typically a requirement for terrorism, except apparently in Michigan where any violent situation where people get scared is considered terrorism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
That, and we're making fun of Seran because he's stupid.
Dork.
He thinks mayo is spicy, so probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril