Taliban taking over Afghanistan

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

You're not suggesting the media would make up sources or not properly vet people before interviewing them are you?

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It doesn't even matter if he's real or not (though I noticed you were happy enough to go along with it since it fit your narrative). I've never seen or heard of anyone who was directly involved in training them think they were a fighting force.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

(though I noticed you were happy enough to go along with it since it fit your narrative).

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Hey I qualified my statement by saying if it were true. I know the media well enough by now to know I have to take everything I read from them with a huge heaping side of salt.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

I've never seen or heard of anyone who was directly involved in training them think they were a fighting force.

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I'm sure some of them must have tried. I think a big part of it is the ones who tried relied on the US military a lot and then we just suddenly said okay we out! You're all on your own now.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I'm sure some of them must have tried. I think a big part of it is the ones who tried relied on the US military a lot and then we just suddenly said okay we out! You're all on your own now.

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It wasn't sudden at all though. We had been attempting to train and prepare them to stand on their own since the very beginning. In 2006 we used to tell the ANA/ABP to begin taking point on patrols - we'd still be with them for support, they would just be in the front. There was always an excuse why they couldn't do it. "Our trucks broke down." "Nobody showed up." "Today is a holiday." Sometimes their commanders would outright refuse. Anyone who has been there has similar stories.

Here's a Vice documentary from 2013. It shows pretty much everything that was going on, it really should be required viewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

No it's about you fuckers nitpicking everything.

Did Biden downplay the shit out of a Taliban take over? Yes.
Did he say it was highly unlikely? Yes.
Did he say we would NOT see helicopters landing on the roof of the US embassy in order to evacuate people? Yes.
Did he literally use the word "impossible"? Okay! You got me! You win!

You and Seran really need to find a new hobby that doesn't involve you on my nuts 24/7.

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Then stop using hyperbole and then trying to reference that as fact later in our argument.

You do the exact same thing when someone says something like that about Republicans, don't play the victim it doesn't suit you.

We’ve had entire platoons with us. They all sucked. I was more worried about them shooting me in the back.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Here is what one supposed Afghan pilot has to say about Biden throwing them under the bus and blaming them all for the mess he created:





Sad if this is all true.

Biden really didn't have to kick all of these people while they were down to cover up his own failure with the withdrawal. He truly is a monster.

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Whine whine whine, a country thousands of miles away didn't keep the pointless forever war going and all of them Afghan commanders stole fuel, parts and supplies for decades, but now it's Biden's fault. Please, shed some pussy water for this poor pilot who was abandoned by his own country.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Hey I qualified my statement by saying if it were true. I know the media well enough by now to know I have to take everything I read from them with a huge heaping side of salt.



I'm sure some of them must have tried. I think a big part of it is the ones who tried relied on the US military a lot and then we just suddenly said okay we out! You're all on your own now.

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I like this cop out that Dreaven always relies on to preference lies and outright fabrications. There's no way that you and Tucker Carlson haven't been butt buddies since he joined Fox. His white supremacist propaganda and your conservative conspiracies and fabrications are basically the same script.

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Originally Posted by Seran

but now it's Biden's fault.

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Hey where are all those whiners who bitch when I supposedly "lie" about shit here to bitch about Seran completely making up what I said in this very thread?

As I have said before...what IS Biden's fault is this complete shitshow of a withdrawal. Why are tens of thousands of Americans still trapped in Afghanistan? That's all on Biden, don't you dare blame anyone else for that shit.

What is also Biden's fault is him throwing everyone under the bus, including the entire Afghan army some of whom did try and have been trying to years. You hate it when people paint in broad strokes like this right? Of course you do, just not when it's literally the worst president in the history of the world, simply because he happens to be a Democrat.

At least pretend to care about the people you claim to care about, you complete fraud hack.

The absolute best part about all of this is Biden could have stuck to Trump's withdrawal plan and he could have easily just said "Blame Trump...he made the plan, I just followed through."

Instead he pushed it back and changed the plan so HE could be credited with ending the Afghanistan war, and now that it's biting him on the ass brain dead fuckers like Seran still want to give him the benefit of the doubt and blame literally everyone else but Biden. Poor, demented Uncle Joe, he doesn't know what he's doing so he can't be held responsible for all of the suffering he has caused!

If we are going to play the blame game for Afghanistan, there is plenty of blame to go around to put on all of the past four administrations.

But the withdrawal plan fiasco has to be put squarely on Biden - a fact that is so obvious that even CNN has been somewhat critical of Biden's performance on the matter.

I just hope every American can get out safely. It is not looking good.