Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

So, Russia is starting to be driven out of large parts of Ukraine, the Russian Defense Ministry claiming to be regrouping and not retreating.

Russia has been using Iranian supplied drones.

Ukraine just annihilated the 4th Guards Tank Division, of the 1st Guards Tank Army, one of the best equipped and most stories forces that Russia has. They even captured the majority of the 90 T-80U tanks that the division lost.

The remainder of the 1st Guards Tank Army is digging in around Kharkov, but they are apparently cut off.

British supplied Challenger IIs are in the hands of the Ukrainians now, though they haven't arrived to battle yet.

The Ukrainian Army actually has more tanks now then it did prior to its counteroffensive, capturing more intact and usable tanks from the Russians than it lost.

There are stories that entire Russian units are refusing to deploy to Ukraine.

Several Councillors in Russia are demanding Putin resign.

A terrorist group has been emboldened and is now actively threatening Putin and his allies, claiming responsibility for a car bomb that killed on of Putin's allies' daughter.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I'm sure they'll get it eventually.



How have they really hurt themselves though? A few sanctions that doesn't seem to be hurting them? Europe still guzzling as much Russian oil and gas as they can.

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Lol. Your comments in this thread are aging terribly

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Originally Posted by Alfster

Lol. Your comments in this thread are aging terribly

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How do you figure? Russia still isn’t hurting much from Western sanctions, they just started selling more oil to China and India at a discount and considering the high cost of oil they are selling the oil for roughly what they were before Western sanctions.

Europe is hurting a hell of a lot more than Russia is. Look it up. They are keeping the AC off to save electricity and are expected to freeze their asses off come winter time. Oh and inflation is killing their economy too. But don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.

Let's be honest.. the ones that hurt themselves the most in this is Russia. They went from a self proclaimed super power to barely a regional power.

The #2 or #3 armed forces in the world are looking pretty pathetic at this point.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

How do you figure? Russia still isn’t hurting much from Western sanctions, they just started selling more oil to China and India at a discount and considering the high cost of oil they are selling the oil for roughly what they were before Western sanctions.

Europe is hurting a hell of a lot more than Russia is. Look it up. They are keeping the AC off to save electricity and are expected to freeze their asses off come winter time. Oh and inflation is killing their economy too. But don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.

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On top of what PB has stated, their sphere of influence is being destroyed as well. Azerbaijan seized the Russians weakness and attacked Armenia (who Russia backed). Georgia is alleged looking to go to war with Russia now.

You simply don't understand international politics. Yes, the EU is going throughwar fatigue, but they're in a solid place right now even compared to July.

But, as you've stated, Russia has lost nothing.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

On top of what PB has stated, their sphere of influence is being destroyed as well. Azerbaijan seized the Russians weakness and attacked Armenia (who Russia backed). Georgia is alleged looking to go to war with Russia now.

You simply don't understand international politics. Yes, the EU is going throughwar fatigue, but they're in a solid place right now even compared to July.

But, as you've stated, Russia has lost nothing.

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Right. Countries are suddenly going to start attacking a nuclear armed state.

Also their influence hasn’t suffered shit. Name one country under Russia’s sphere of influence that is drifting away from them and towards the West.

No one has been able to state how their economy has suffered much at all due to Western sanctions.

But again don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative. “Europe is in a solid place right now even compared to July.” Fucking lol. Get the fuck outta here.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Right. Countries are suddenly going to start attacking a nuclear armed state.

Also their influence hasn’t suffered shit. Name one country under Russia’s sphere of influence that is drifting away from them and towards the West.

No one has been able to state how their economy has suffered much at all due to Western sanctions.

But again don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative. “Europe is in a solid place right now even compared to July.” Fucking lol. Get the fuck outta here.

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You think the puppet states have to attack Russia to cause problems. How short sighted of you.

Georgia, khazikstan, Azerbaijan all finding an opening to move away from russia. The last two weeks of loss after loss for the Russians has emboldened ex Soviet states. Csto is basically the weakest it's ever been, and a time where Russia is low on personnel.

The big winner will be China.

The footage coming out of both sides is brutal.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

You think the puppet states have to attack Russia to cause problems. How short sighted of you.

Georgia, khazikstan, Azerbaijan all finding an opening to move away from russia. The last two weeks of loss after loss for the Russians has emboldened ex Soviet states. Csto is basically the weakest it's ever been, and a time where Russia is low on personnel.

The big winner will be China.

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Saudi/Iran seem to be big winners in this deal as well... but I didn't hear anything special about the ex Soviet states being "emboldened" really. That's just all talk.

Ukraine is the biggest loser right now, given that it's in their country all the destruction is happening in.

Russia also lost with it's false perception of being a world power prior to them getting their asses kicked.

Europe lost because they put all their eggs in the Russian energy basket and it's going to bite them in the ass real hard this winter.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

You think the puppet states have to attack Russia to cause problems. How short sighted of you.

Georgia, khazikstan, Azerbaijan all finding an opening to move away from russia. The last two weeks of loss after loss for the Russians has emboldened ex Soviet states. Csto is basically the weakest it's ever been, and a time where Russia is low on personnel.

The big winner will be China.

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You are the one who said countries were looking to attack Russia now, I merely laughed at you for suggesting that.

You are now claiming Georgia is looking to move away from Russia, they already were well before this war. Did you already forget Russia attacked Georgia a few years ago?