NAACP Protests Racist Voter ID Laws

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

The fact that you can get a free ID eliminates the "poll tax" route.

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You can, because you live in Pennsylvania. This is not the case in every state.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

This is kind of a silly question given the two sides of the argument.

You want Republicans to say "yes" and you want Democrats to say "no."

Well if Democrats don't believe that voter ID laws would change the outcome of elections why are they fighting so hard against them? I thought the whole argument was Republicans wanted to keep the black vote out of the elections so Republicans could win more?

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What really bothers me is that there seem to be people in both parties who are completely willing to bend or even break laws so that elections can be won.

If laws are changed, both parties seem to immediately respond by hiring lawyers and asking how they can get around the new laws. The idea of a fair election just doesn't seem to enter some people's minds. Elections must be won. Concepts like honesty and integrity seem to be lost on such people.

I just hope that the numbers of people like this are small.

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

The fact that you can get a free ID eliminates the "poll tax" route.

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Doesn't it bother you that we have to issue free ID cards in order to not violate a voters constitutional rights just to solve a problem that doesn't even exist?

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Doesn't it bother you that we have to issue free ID cards in order to not violate a voters constitutional rights just to solve a problem that doesn't even exist?

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Doesn't it bother you that (if your name was Richard Bawless) and I knew where you lived, I could go and vote in your place? All I have to do is know you are registered, know where you live, and know where your polling station is.

Doesn't it bother you that 3rd world countries have more security in their elections then we do?

Doesn't it bother you that Votes don't get counted on either side for stupid reasons? (a similar name to a Felon for example.. which would be solved with requiring an ID oddly enough)

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It's only their constitutional right if they are a citizen. Let me ask you this.. Why don't YOU want secure checks on the integrity of our election system? And don't give me your standard crap that "it's working perfectly fine" because blah blah blah said so. Do you Absolutely KNOW that this is the case? I said it before.. people on YOUR side get up in arms if there is even a HINT that 1 person was turned away from voting who should have been able to vote. But yet it seems you don't care at all if people that SHOULDN'T be able to vote, do vote.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...230030371.html

Please.. tell me that the above link, is not an issue at all? I love the guy's explanation... but.. he doesn't really know for sure.

Tell me how ID laws are going to prevent clerical errors.

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Originally Posted by waywardgs

Tell me how ID laws are going to prevent clerical errors.

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They can raise the dead voters.

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Originally Posted by waywardgs

Tell me how ID laws are going to prevent clerical errors.

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Did you know that your DL has a swipe strip, and a barcode on it? I also heard of this interesting thing called a computer and a database.

It's funny how technology can remove clerical errors. Tho I GUESS if you WANTED to do everything by hand so there could BE clerical errors.. that is another story.

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

If citing the Constitution is "playing the race card", I guess we're done here...

I don't think Republicans are consciously racist. We just aren't smart enough to realize the consequence of our actions, so we need the wise federal government to step in and correct us. It's the American way! :)

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Firstly, you arguing on behalf of the constitution made me chuckle. Secondly...

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

Doesn't it bother you that (if your name was Richard Bawless) and I knew where you lived, I could go and vote in your place? All I have to do is know you are registered, know where you live, and know where your polling station is.

Doesn't it bother you that 3rd world countries have more security in their elections then we do?

Doesn't it bother you that Votes don't get counted on either side for stupid reasons? (a similar name to a Felon for example.. which would be solved with requiring an ID oddly enough)

Also...

It's only their constitutional right if they are a citizen. Let me ask you this.. Why don't YOU want secure checks on the integrity of our election system? And don't give me your standard crap that "it's working perfectly fine" because blah blah blah said so. Do you Absolutely KNOW that this is the case? I said it before.. people on YOUR side get up in arms if there is even a HINT that 1 person was turned away from voting who should have been able to vote. But yet it seems you don't care at all if people that SHOULDN'T be able to vote, do vote.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...230030371.html

Please.. tell me that the above link, is not an issue at all? I love the guy's explanation... but.. he doesn't really know for sure.

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Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Your own link dismisses your worries. Did you even read it?

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Your own link dismisses your worries. Did you even read it?

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Maybe he's not worried about fraud anymore but angry about clumsy government workers. Good luck with that.