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So you're under the impression that deploying troops to honor our NATO commitments is escalation? You're conveniently forgetting Russia has been the only aggressor in Europe for decades and it's rather unseemly to ignore that provocation when chastising defensive measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
And oddly... none of this happened under Trump... weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Just stfu already you pedo simp.
You'd be having a meltdown and screaming warmonger if it were Trump instead of Biden, so shut the welfare fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Yeah, well Trump didn't tell Putin to invade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
There is no commitment to NATO to send troops into Europe. What do you believe these 3000 troops will do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Look at what Biden said when he first took office... we won't send troops, we won't send aircraft, we won't send tanks... because if we did, it meant WW3.
And look what we're doing...
'HOW DO YOU KNOW HE DIDN'T!?!? HE PROBABLY DID WHEN HIS ARMED INSURRECTION FAILED ON JANUARY 6TH! HE HAS COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA FOR 7 YEARS NOW!' -SeranQuote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
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Originally Posted by Shaps
Is it that you're just dishonest or ignorant. I'm betting both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Germany. Forty-nine U.S. Army helicopters, as well as trucks and other support equipment from the 10th Combat Aviation Brigade (CAB), arrived in Europe to begin a nine-month rotation in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve in February 2017. The equipment arriving by ship in the Port of Bremerhaven, Germany, on February 11 included UH-60 Black Hawk and CH-47F Chinook helicopters. An additional 20 helicopters were scheduled to arrive later that month according to Army Command Sergeant Major Steven DiGeorgio, command sergeant major of the 10th CAB. The battalion departed from Fort Drum, New York, in January. Soldiers who arrived with the equipment prepared it for delivery to staging bases throughout Eastern Europe for a nine-month rotation to train with NATO partners. “A large proportion of this brigade would go to Katterbach and Illesheim, Germany,” said Army Major General Duane Gamble, the 21st Theater Sustainment Command commander. Advance teams arrived in Illesheim on February 8, and about 2,000 soldiers were scheduled to be stationed there and in nearby Ansbach.
Romania. On February 16, 2017, soldiers, tanks, and M88 recovery vehicles from the 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regiment’s “Fighting Eagles” arrived in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve. More than 350 U.S. soldiers arrived with another 150 set to arrive before the end of February. They unloaded M1A2 Abrams tanks from the first train that arrived February 14 to an eastern Romanian airbase located about 12 miles away from the Black Sea.
Germany. On February 22, 2017, Air Force Air Mobility Command C-5 Galaxy transports delivered AH-64 Apache helicopters to Ramstein Air Base, Germany, and were expected to deliver UH-60 Black Hawks to Latvia at the end the month as part of Operation Atlantic Resolve. The Apache helicopters were based out of Fort Bliss, Texas, and the Black Hawks are based at Fort Drum, New York. They were deployed to Europe on a nine-month rotation in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve. Some helicopters were being airlifted to various areas across Europe, while other equipment was moved by rail. The combat aviation brigade would have brought nearly 2,200 troops and about 50 Black Hawk, 10 Chinook, and 24 Apache helicopters to Germany, Latvia, and Romania.
England. Two B-2 Spirit stealth bombers arrived on June 9, 2017, from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri, joining B-1B Lancer and B-52 H Stratofortress bombers already there in theater assurance
Ukraine. On July 20, 2018, DOD announced that they would provide $200 million to Ukraine in security cooperation funds for additional training, equipment, and advisory efforts to build the defensive capacity of Ukraine’s forces. The additional funds were to provide equipment to aid ongoing training programs and operational needs, including “capabilities to enhance Ukraine’s command and control, situational awareness systems, secure communications, military mobility, night vision, and military medical treatment. A timeline for delivery and fielding of equipment will be determined at a later date
Lithuania. The United States and Lithuania signed a defense-cooperation agreement on April 2, 2019. The five-year agreement stated that the United States would send forces to the Baltic states “to strengthen deterrence and to catalyze the efforts of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to develop their national defense further.” Lithuania’s Defense Ministry was to provide all necessary support for the deployment of U.S. forces.
Poland. On June 12, 2019, President Trump and Polish President Andrzej Duda announced that Poland would host 1,000 additional U.S. troops under a new security agreement. With the increase, the total number of U.S. forces typically deployed to the NATO ally as a deterrent to Russia would come to more than 5,000. According to President Trump, as many as 2,000 troops would be moved from Germany to Poland under the new agreement—without adding to the overall number of U.S. troops in Europe. The new U.S. contingent “would include special operations forces, logistics troops and an Army division headquarters.” 106 The troops would be deployed to Poland on a rotational basis.
Europe. On April 23, 2000, the Army announced that the 1st Cavalry Division Headquarters stationed at Fort Hood, Texas, would deploy to Europe in summer 2000. The 1st Cavalry Division Headquarters contingent would replace the 1st Infantry Division Headquarters as the Atlantic Resolve Division Headquarters (Forward) in Poznan, Poland, in support of the United States’ commitment to NATO allies and partners.120 In addition, the Army announced the upcoming rotation of the 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division stationed at Fort Stewart, Georgia to Europe. The 2nd ABCT would replace 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division in support of the United States’ commitment to NATO allies and partners
Europe. On October 8, 2021, the Army announced the fall rotational deployment of 4th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) elements to Europe. Advisor teams from the 4th SFAB, stationed at Fort Carson, Colorado, would deploy to multiple locations in the region to support the United States’ commitment to European Theater Security Cooperation.135 The Army also announced the 1st Cavalry Division Combat Aviation Brigade’s fall rotational deployment to Europe. Stationed at Fort Hood, Texas, the 1st Air Cavalry Brigade, would replace the 1st Infantry Division Combat Aviation Brigade to support the United States’ commitment to Atlantic Resolve.136 Europe. On December 16, 2021, the Army announced spring 2022 rotational deployment of the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team (ABCT), 4th Infantry Division, to Europe. Stationed at Fort Carson, Colorado, the 3rd ABCT would replace the 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, as part of a regular rotation of forces to support the U.S. commitment to NATO allies and partners.
Instances of Use of United States Admed Forces Abroad 1798-2023, Congressional Research Service https://crsreports.congress.gov R42738
You claimed that the reason for sending troops to Europe to defend against Russian aggression was a NATO commitment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I said it wasn't.
Wrong. Operation Atlantic Resolve began under Obama, was extended by Trump, and continues under Biden. Bask in your ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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President Biden - Whitehouse.gov website
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command’s area of responsibility. In furtherance of this operation, under the stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, under their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve, as they deem necessary, and to terminate the service of those units and members ordered to active duty.
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OPERATION ATLANTIC RESOLVE - Department of Defense Website
The United States continues to demonstrate its commitment to the collective security of our NATO allies and support for our partners in Europe, in light of the on-going Russian intervention in Ukraine.
All U.S. efforts in support of our NATO allies and partners in Europe fall under the umbrella of OPERATION ATLANTIC RESOLVE.
The U.S. took several immediate steps to demonstrate solidarity with our NATO allies, such as augmenting the air, ground and naval presence in the region, and enhancing previously scheduled exercises.
Russia's aggressive actions have already led many to call for reinforcing NATO's readiness through Article 5-related planning training and adjustments to force posture.
The U.S. is also taking additional measures to enhance NATO military plans and defense capabilities and remains committed to maintaining a persistent presence in Eastern Europe. We look forward to additional commitments by our allies, to ensure a coordinated and continuous land, air, and sea presence in the region at least through the end of the year.
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Former President Obama - Whitehouse.gov Archive
FACT SHEET: U.S. Assurance and Deterrence Efforts in Support of NATO Allies
In the last 18 months, the United States has taken several steps to assure our allies in Europe and demonstrate our continued commitment to NATO collective defense. Operation ATLANTIC RESOLVE (OAR) is a demonstration of our dedication to enduring peace and stability in the North Atlantic area, and it will remain in place as long as needed to reassure our allies and partners, and deter an increasingly bellicose Russia. Deterrence requires ready and capable allies in Europe, which is why we have enhanced the frequency and complexity of exercises with NATO allies and partners, while augmenting the U.S. air, ground, and naval presence in the region. The U.S.-European strategic partnership is built on a foundation of shared values and common experience, and we build on that foundation with a robust training and exercise plan.
Exactly... Russia invaded when Obama and Biden were in... sending the world to war.
Trump calmed everything down...
Now Russian invaded again while Biden is in office... and he's now sending more troops, money, and weapons there.
Glad to see we agree that Biden and Obama are warmongering fascists hellbent on WW3 happening.