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Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'm talking by quarter.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'm talking by quarter.
Do you mean the increases has been about the same since 2011, or the total GDP?Quote:
Originally Posted by gemstonefella
Suddenly his testimony behind closed doors isn't good enough? It seemed good enough for you when you thought Vindman said the transcript was inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by gemstonefella
I'm saying we've seen the effect of the Trump tax cuts boosting GDP start to dwindle back down to Obama level GDP gains. I might be mis-remembering but I seem to remember a couple of 5.0% gains during the Obama years. Trump is rocking right under 3 while Obama was right above 2. It jumps all over the board from quarter to quarter.
Obama averaged 1.58% GDP growth during his 8 years in office, so far Trump is averaging 2.65% GDP growth and will probably be even higher after 2019 is finished because this has been a good year as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gemstonefella
Also my earlier point about GDP growth wasn't just in terms of percent but in total value. A 2.5% growth on 1 trillion dollars isn't going to be as much as a 2.5% growth on 2 trillion dollars, for example.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Where do you get the 1.58 number from? And Trump is averaging better than that.
In more important things:
Do I roll with John Brown or Christian Kirk this week?
2009 -2.5Quote:
Originally Posted by gemstonefella
2010 2.6
2011 1.6
2012 2.2
3012 1.8
2014 2.5
2015 2.9
2016 1.6
Maybe the site I am looking at has the wrong values.
Again. Ignoring the actual point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'm not sure that I care about withholding aid. Do you think it's appropriate to have private citizens running a back channel that goes against official U.S. policy? Especially since those citizens do not have security access?
You cared about Hillary's emails because your party told you to. You ignore Ivanka, kushner, and others using private emails for official business because....they told you it's not a big deal. You're willing to act like it's not a big deal that the president is overheard conducting business with regards to Ukraine in the open in front of aids.
He's a walking national security nightmare. But you're stuck on one point, quid quo pro. That's not even the big deal out of all of this.
And I'm the one moving the goalposts. Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Wait so this is suddenly what Democrats and Never Trumpers are concerned with? And I'm the one moving the goalposts. Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
I cared about Hillary's emails because she was ordered to turn over her server and instead bleached it and literally smashed phones with hammers to ensure no one could ever have access to her emails. THAT doesn't concern you? Or does it not concern you because "your party" told you it shouldn't concern you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
That's LITERALLY what Democrats have been screaming about this entire time. And just like when the Russia bullshit started to fall apart Democrats are now moving the goalposts and insisting the "real crime" is something else entirely, and just like with the Russian bullshit you guys are here gaslighting the ever living shit out of everyone to insist it has always been about something else. If I created a montage of the number of times Democrats mentioned "quid pro quo" or "digging up dirt" it would probably be about an hour long made up of just 15 second sound bytes. But now suddenly that's "not even the big deal out of all of this."Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster