Pelosi officially announces impeachment inquiry

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

That's weird coming from someone who seems to only give a shit about something because Trump did it.

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I would care about any US president's actions that used the power of his office to further his own agenda over the good of the country. I also can't stand that he has to lie about everything.

Even though I hated his business dealings and the facade he puts forth, I was willing to give him a chance. I wanted to try a businessman at the helm, it's why I voted for Perot in 92. He's an abject failure.

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Originally Posted by gemstonefella

There you go again, talking in absolutes. You have no imperative proof to back up that statement. God damn Ted Cruz would have made a better president and if Kasich was the guy, the country would be humming along smoothly.

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kasich was against gay marriage. I’m not down with that. I’d have voted for Cruz.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I love it! Wish we could spend more! More! MORE!



The official transcript has been released. Vindman said while he thinks some words may have been omitted he thinks this was on the part of the person transcribing the call and doesn't think there was any malicious intent behind it. Vindman also testified that he thinks the transcript that has been released is largely accurate and anything missing from the transcript is insignificant and wouldn't change the overall call.

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I have no doubt you were screaming about Obama's spending from 08-12. I know I was. I wanted to let everything fail.

We'll see what Vindman says next week in his open testimony. I think we got two different things out of what's been released so far.

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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

kasich was against gay marriage. I’m not down with that. I’d have got d for Cruz.

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Not down with it either, but it's far down my list of qualifications. It would basically be out of his hands anyway.

Dude the deficit has me for real freaked out.

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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

Dude the deficit has me for real freaked out.

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It's fucking insane. One of these days the butcher bill will come due. Hope I'm gone by then.

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Originally Posted by gemstonefella

I would care about any US president's actions that used the power of his office to further his own agenda over the good of the country. I also can't stand that he has to lie about everything.

Even though I hated his business dealings and the facade he puts forth, I was willing to give him a chance. I wanted to try a businessman at the helm, it's why I voted for Perot in 92. He's an abject failure.

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How is Trump an abject failure again? Because of this Ukraine and Russian nonsense?

I mean this sincerely. I think most of us want the same things. The 2 party system just doesn’t support it, and our candidates are NOT the best thing his country has to offer.

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Originally Posted by gemstonefella

We'll see what Vindman says next week in his open testimony. I think we got two different things out of what's been released so far.

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No this was from the transcript that was released of Vindman's testimony. You might be relying on the leaks Schiff released to the media before the transcripts were released.

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Originally Posted by gemstonefella

It's fucking insane. One of these days the butcher bill will come due. Hope I'm gone by then.

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Like I said during Obama's time in office, a managed debt is fine. As long as the economy is growing to compensate for our borrowing then it's fine. The problem was under Obama our spending was increasing by a lot while our GDP was only growing modestly at best. Now the economy is growing so much under Trump that our debt/GDP ratio is expected to stay the same through 2021 even though our spending has increased, unless one of the socialists get into office and completely fucks our economy.