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That PB, always elevating the discourse.Quote:
Originally posted by Parkbandit
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(8.5 hours to Clinton!)
I don't know.. after reading the bullshit from Raven.. it seemed appropriate.
And what's channel is Clinton hawking his book on now?
I think he's on the Daily Show tonight. Turns out he passed up on the SNL offer.Quote:
Originally posted by Parkbandit
I don't know.. after reading the bullshit from Raven.. it seemed appropriate.
And what's channel is Clinton hawking his book on now?
Folks .. it's not a conspiracy theory. It's not some secret cabal with secret handshakes and the vindication of George the 1st as its primary goal.
Large numbers of people currently in power made absolutely NO SECRET of their desire to go get Saddam and attempt to establish U.S. hegemony in the middle east - all this LONG LONG before 9/11 or even before Bush the 2nd was in office. Seriously. Go to http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ... and look at the signatories on the Statement of Principles from 1997. I'm sure there will a couple of familiar names there. Then .. hit the Iraq/Middle East section and look at the 1997-2000 area and you will see that our current VP, our Sec of Defense, our Asst Sec of Defense, the President's brother, and a bunch of other people that are in the Administration have been advocating what we've done in Iraq for YEARS. 9/11 was just a convientent excuse.
And look .. I don't necessarily disagree with everything they say. But the bottom line is that they wanted to finish the job in Iraq and they used 9/11 as the excuse. There are a lot of reasons to attack Iraq but none of the real reasons are/were politically tenable so they used 9/11 terrorism and WMD's as the excuse - and squandered worldwide goodwill and support for the fight on terrorism in the process.
-P
While I am unaware of former President Clinton's motives, he will be appearing on Comedy Central (channel 75 if you live near me, or maybe if you don't). Show starts at 11:00 PM, interview usually starts in the 11:15-11:20 range, but Jon usually doesn't have former Presidents on.
edit: aka what Wezas said.
[Edited on 8-9-2004 by Latrinsorm]
Sad, but true.Quote:
Originally posted by Ravenstorm
Not that I expect it would make any difference to you or the rest of the 'blind'.
Raven
Bullshit? You laid the war completely at Saddam's feet based on one report. I pointed out the other 99% of the deliberate misinformation that failed to even consider anything contradictory. You also fail to acknowledge that there's still a legitimate concern as to whether or not the Bush administration let the intelligence community know what it wanted them to say. You might consider it a conspiracy theory but even your own elected Republicans believe it worth looking into: just, unfortunately, not before the election.
Bullshit? You ignored facts and got called on it. Just admit you don't care whether or not Dubya knew Iraq was no threat or not and deliberately lied to the country.
You did say one thing right though earlier in the thread... There's absolutely no point in wasting time debating with the blind.
Raven
The same can be said for you and Raven. Personally I think there are people here who like Bush so much, they fail to see any faults, however I also see people who hate Bush so much they fail to see the good things Bush has done, and the bad things Kerry has done.Quote:
Originally posted by DarkelfVold
Sad, but true.Quote:
Originally posted by Ravenstorm
Not that I expect it would make any difference to you or the rest of the 'blind'.
Raven
The political debates that happen here are nothing more then Google wars. The selection of Politcal canidates there year suck. Kerry and Bush are both morons that have no place in the white house. However your statements are absolutely ridiculous, because I see the same in both of you.
Bush did good things?