More Obamacare fuckups

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Originally Posted by Gelston

I've never seen them in Texas or Louisiana. Perhaps they say citizenship, but not legality of being in the US.

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We're so progressive here! :D

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Originally Posted by msconstrew

We're so progressive here! :D

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Damn Yankees.

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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay

The only issue I find with this statement is that you are forgetting the MILLIONS of people who are here illegally who already are taking advantage of the healthcare system. People who don't pay taxes and send a lot of the money they do make outside of the country.

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Pretty sure I mentioned the uninsured being a factor in insurance pricing multiple times.

Immigration reform is next. Believe it or not most illegals do pay taxes. They may use fake SS numbers and claim 5 dependents but they still pay federal, state, SS, and medicaid taxes if they get a paycheck and never file for a tax return. Thats a whole lot of revenue for the government. Sure some are paied under the table, not just illegals actually, but I'd wager most are on the books.

The only reason I can see NOT to make them all legit is then they will all file tax returns and we won't have tax revenue surplus.

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Originally Posted by Back

Flood the market with buyers and the costs come down.

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So you're thinking that the buyers are the supply and the policies are the demand?

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

You and I both know that many of the illegal aliens do not get this type of treatment. They are paid below minimum wages and if they are hurt, they are sent packing for fear of getting exposed as an illegal alien.

They are treated like farm animals.. easily disposable.

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This is untrue. Any business that hires anyone still has to follow the labor laws of this country which means paying at least minimum wage. Sure, some places may pay cash under the table to avoid having to pay them minimum wage, but I bet those companies are very few and far between.

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Originally Posted by AnticorRifling

So you're thinking that the buyers are the supply and the policies are the demand?

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It seems to me that if every last person with a living wage has to buy insurance that competition for their money will increase.

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Originally Posted by Back

It seems to me that if every last person with a living wage has to buy insurance that competition for their money will increase.

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Or they'll know it is required and collude to set an industry wide price.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Or they'll know it is required and collude to set an industry wide price.

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But capitalism?

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Originally Posted by Back

But capitalism?

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It is Capitalism when you have a choice to NOT buy a product.

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Originally Posted by Back

But capitalism?

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Is being ignored here, correct.