More Obamacare fuckups

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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay

I think this is wishful thinking at best, man. Now it's mandatory coverage or fines. The insurance companies can still charge whatever the fuck they want for whatever plan they offer, the difference now is that I no longer have the choice to ignore that without paying a fine. The ACA equalizes the costs alright, its equalizes the costs by putting the burden on everyone that has an income.

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Exactly. The ACA puts the burden on EVERYONE. It helps those who do not meet the poverty level, and America actually has a poverty level believe it or not, so no one can take advantage of the healthcare system.

Look into it. The law is actually pretty solid.

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Originally Posted by Back

Exactly. The ACA puts the burden on EVERYONE. It helps those who do not meet the poverty level, and America actually has a poverty level believe it or not, so no one can take advantage of the healthcare system.

Look into it. The law is actually pretty solid.

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No one can take advantage of the system because the cost of the policies and the lack of coverage by them succeeds in making the cost of health care even more unaffordable. If you think no one can game the system, you are beyond stupid.

Oh, and adding a bunch of consumers to a system that is already over worked and tight on supply does not drive down costs.

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Originally Posted by Back

Despite the WOT and run on sentences, I get what you are saying.

Times are tight. Money is tight. We all feel that.

But we do pay taxes to our own government rather than a foreign power which is the basis of our country.

When you speak about "everyone is crooked" I take that as no faith in either party! If that is the case what is the solution? What can be more fair than American politics?

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I have no faith in either party. One the one hand, I don't care for the Republicans hardline stance on social issues, like gay marriage and abortion, neither of which are anyone's fucking business but the people involved. But on the other hand, I don't care for the Democrats going on a spending spree after harping on Bush and all the money He blew going to war and then starting little wars themselves. I didn't care for the Patriot Act but now we've got the NSA and the Drone Wars. I'd like to see our border secured, not because I think illegals are going to steal jobs, but because the Drug Cartels have been largely ignored by the current administration and more people have died in more horrible ways than Iraq and Afghanistan combined in just the last couple years. If we're going to go to war, why not help out Mexico? You know? Our immediate neighbors...

I think LESS GOVERNMENT would be a lot better. It's cheaper and we have enough incompetent and petty people living off the taxpayer's dime as it is.

Basically, I am tired of all of it.

It must suck for you folks that the ACA effects. Glad mine is free.

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Originally Posted by Back

I've been ignoring your posts for a month or two now because you never have anything constructive to say. You are the spoiler. The buzzkill. The negative. You criticize and offer nothing to improve. Nothing you say is interesting to me because I do not think in terms of never, can not, or can't.

You comment on just about every post I make. I hope you get satisfaction from that for yourself. I have not read your posts for a while.

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It must be tough being unable to defend your own arguments.

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Originally Posted by Back

Exactly. The ACA puts the burden on EVERYONE. It helps those who do not meet the poverty level, and America actually has a poverty level believe it or not, so no one can take advantage of the healthcare system.

Look into it. The law is actually pretty solid.

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The only issue I find with this statement is that you are forgetting the MILLIONS of people who are here illegally who already are taking advantage of the healthcare system. People who don't pay taxes and send a lot of the money they do make outside of the country.

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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay

The only issue I find with this statement is that you are forgetting the MILLIONS of people who are here illegally who already are taking advantage of the healthcare system. People who don't pay taxes and send a lot of the money they do make outside of the country.

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I don't know why you bother arguing with Back.

MSNBC could report tomorrow that HHS has decided that anyone over 70 with a chronic disease was going to be put down to save money, and Back would be like, "Look, ACA is working on reducing medical costs! I told you Obama would fix everything"!

He is just a troll. I can't honestly think of a single person other then him that doesn't know that Millions of people's plans have been cancelled due to ACA. Nor that most people are seeing a price increase. ~HE~ isn't so it must not be tho.

As far as illegals, we need to make up our mind. Do we want them or not?

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Originally Posted by Gelston

As far as illegals, we need to make up our mind. Do we want them or not?

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It's not actually that we want them or not.. it's what are we going to do with them. The right thing to do would be to kick them all out and have them apply to enter the country legally.. to follow our rules and laws. Logistically though, that will never happen.

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Originally Posted by Back

I've been ignoring your posts for a month or two now because you never have anything constructive to say. You are the spoiler. The buzzkill. The negative. You criticize and offer nothing to improve. Nothing you say is interesting to me because I do not think in terms of never, can not, or can't.

You comment on just about every post I make. I hope you get satisfaction from that for yourself. I have not read your posts for a while.

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