Donald Sterling and Political Theory

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05-01-2014, 08:38 AM
Ker_Thwap

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

I'll explain this entire situation to you and Ker_Thwap. Suppose you had a tape of that man uploading the tape, and that the police can't do anything about it because for some insane reason they don't have universal surveillance. What to do? You have proof the man is a scumbag that is not admissible in a court of law... but the court of public opinion, aha!

Suppose you're a police officer, and you have a warrant for a kidnapper's arrest. You break into his home, drag him out in handcuffs, and put him in a cell for the rest of his life.

OMG YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING AS HE DID! YOU'RE NO DIFFERENT! ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!?!?

The word you're groping for is "context". Context, Terry. Context.

I certainly agree about context. Law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than a private individual or organization. But you're entirely failing about the OMG YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING AS HE DID! YOU'RE NO DIFFERENT! ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!?!? histrionics. No one has said your lame examples are the same thing, I'm not defending that straw man.
05-01-2014, 05:37 PM
Ardwen

What amuses me about all this, if he actually does sell, he is going to get far more cash then he would have otherwise for a second rate team, theres going to be tons of rich people that want to the Hero that save us from the bigot that owns a team, if Sterling had set this up on purpose he couldnt have done a better job of advertising the team was for sale.
05-01-2014, 05:49 PM
Tgo01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlsSk7sCRM

Way to stay classy, Snoop Dog/Lion/whatever the fuck you call yourself these days.
05-01-2014, 07:32 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlsSk7sCRM

Way to stay classy, Snoop Dog/Lion/whatever the fuck you call yourself these days.

And you wonder why I call you racist?

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

That's what I was wondering when I read the story.

They were so angry about all of this but they want to be sure to get their millions first.

Criticize the players for not boycotting their job.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I can see it now.

"Hey honey, can you pull out that tape from a few nights ago? I forgot which color people I don't like showing up at my basketball games."

Pretty sure it is.

At least that's how the California law sounds.

Criticize the GF.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Did anyone here actually listen to the recording? Is there more than one recording out there?

I never heard him say this in the recording I listened to. In fact he doesn't even say anything bad about black people, he doesn't even tell her to stop associating with black people, he does tell her to not "broadcast" the fact that she hangs out with black people. He says he wouldn't even mind if she broadcasted the fact that she hangs out with Latin people. I guess he has this thing where since she's perceived to be white or Latin that she should only show the world that she hangs out with whites or Latins.

I'm not saying he's right and it's an ignorant and stupid thing to say, but all the stories I've heard have this guy saying he said he hates black people, he doesn't want her to hang out with black people and he doesn't want her to bring black people to his games.

Also I don't have another recording of this chick to go by but she sounds so fake in that recording. I don't know if she purposefully got into this argument because she wanted to record him or dubbed it or what but she totally sounds like she's acting. But maybe she's just a ditz and always sounds like that. As I said I don't know, I've never heard her on anything but this.

More GF criticisms preceded by an attempt justify and defend Sterling.

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Never mind. Apparently I wasn't listening to the "extended" version. He does indeed say don't bring black people to my games.

Here's where you realized they've got him nailed on being a racist, but instead of criticizing him....

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His comments are worse than the Holocaust!

You deflect the criticism with a sarcastic holocaust comment.

Then you start in on Shaq and now Snoop. Why are so slow to criticize Sterling and so quick to criticize everyone else?
05-01-2014, 07:39 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by cwolff

And you wonder why I call you racist?

Holy shit, dude. People like you do a disservice to people who are trying to fight real racism.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Criticize the players for not boycotting their job.

Yeah, so?

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Criticize the GF.

Yeah, so?

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More GF criticisms preceded by an attempt justify and defend Sterling.

What? She does sound fake. I'm beginning to think you never actually listened to the recording, cwolff. It would fit your status quo, after all.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Here's where you realized they've got him nailed on being a racist, but instead of criticizing him....

If you bothered to actually, y'know...READ...you would see I never once said he was or was not a racist, I merely questioned the facts about what was said because I didn't hear him say that in the recording I listened to.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

You deflect the criticism with a sarcastic holocaust comment.

I think this proves that you didn't listen to the recording at all. Thanks for proving that, cwolff :)

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Then you start in on Shaq and now Snoop. Why are so slow to criticize Sterling and so quick to criticize everyone else?

Did you even listen to the 30 fucking second video about Snoop? You are a sad, sad man :(
05-01-2014, 07:44 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

If you bothered to actually, y'know...READ...you would see I never once said he was or was not a racist, I merely questioned the facts about what was said because I didn't hear him say that in the recording I listened to.

You questioned the facts around Sterlings racism and immideately vilified the players, GF, Shaq and Snoop. No questioning the fact for the minorities. Only the white guy gets the benefit of the doubt? Is that it?
05-01-2014, 07:52 PM
Laviticas

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Originally Posted by cwolff

You questioned the facts around Sterlings racism and immideately vilified the players, GF, Shaq and Snoop. No questioning the fact for the minorities. Only the white guy gets the benefit of the doubt? Is that it?

Personally don't give a fuck about this story. What I am getting tired of is a race of people being called a minority when in fact they are far from a minority if no the majority. More or less it points out who the real racists are.
05-01-2014, 07:52 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by cwolff

You questioned the facts around Sterlings racism

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Learn to read, I'm not going to translate shit for you anymore.

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and immideately vilified the players

I "vilified" the players? "Vilified" the players?

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No questioning the fact for the minorities. Only the white guy gets the benefit of the doubt? Is that it?

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you really giving me an attitude because I like to research things for myself? I should just take everyone's words on it that this guy went on a racist rant and was caught on tape about it?

It's a good thing I didn't because that couldn't be further from the truth. People like you only make things worse. You want to be spoon fed information and "facts." You want to be told what to think and who to hate. Fuck finding out anything on your own. You have made it pretty clear you have yet to even listen to the recoding. You have yet to listen to the interview I linked a few posts back.

You were told to hate this man because of the racist shit he said on tape and that's exactly what you're doing.

Just remember to vote Democrat next election!

Funny how you claim I have done nothing but defend Sterling yet somehow managed to skip over these quotes:

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I'm not saying he's right and it's an ignorant and stupid thing to say

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He said he didn't want his girlfriend hanging out with black people because of the way his friends were perceiving it. Ignorant? Yes. Stupid? Yes.

Spare us all your sanctimonious bullshit, cwolff.
05-01-2014, 07:58 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by Laviticas

Personally don't give a fuck about this story. What I am getting tired of is a race of people being called a minority when in fact they are far from a minority if no the majority. More or less it points out who the real racists are.

This is pretty racist too. It allows the dominant culture to dismiss the anger of other cultures in our society. You don't even have to address the possibility that there's an issue if you can just blow them off as reverse-racists. It's a modern equivalent to "Let them eat cake."
05-01-2014, 08:08 PM
Laviticas

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Originally Posted by cwolff

This is pretty racist too. It allows the dominant culture to dismiss the anger of other cultures in our society. You don't even have to address the possibility that there's an issue if you can just blow them off as reverse-racists. It's a modern equivalent to "Let them eat cake."

Fuck serious, reverse racism, how the fuck did I know that is exactly the term you were going to use. How far do fucks like you want to go back in history to make reparations? It would bee like one big circle jerk.

Reverse racism, such a moronic term.

Seriously Cwolff I have never debated someone so filled with hate that claims they have it all figured out.

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