Russia Investigation Heating Up

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Hillary is not a good candidate in that she's a shitty politician. She'd have been just fine as POTUS.

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We will never, ever know.

THANK GOD!

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

I think Trump has done a stand up job considering the hysterics. No mandate and economically I'm far better off than I was a year and a half ago.

Honestly the only way to change anything to the way you want it means actually getting involved. Go to the next primary/caucus, stand up and give your speech, I have done it. I did it for nearly 10 years, the system is a joke dude and the Russians have nothing to do with it. Once you experience it you will see just how terrible a combination human nature and power are. Giving government as little power as possible is the only way to best avoid the inevitable evils of government. Our framers spoke relentlessly on this subject as well as the moral foundation required among the citizens to sustain such a limited government.

Show me one moral man or woman in politics and I will give it my respect.

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True that. I met Jared Polis (colorado gubernatorial candidate) last week off and caucasing in a week.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

True that. I met Jared Polis (colorado gubernatorial candidate) last week off and caucasing in a week.

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It's exciting at first but it doesn't take long to discover there are no "good" people, there are just people that are good at vying for their personal agendas.

On a lighter note, caucuses are a much more enjoyable experience.

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

I think Trump has done a stand up job considering the hysterics. No mandate and economically I'm far better off than I was a year and a half ago.

Honestly the only way to change anything to the way you want it means actually getting involved. Go to the next primary/caucus, stand up and give your speech, I have done it. I did it for nearly 10 years, the system is a joke dude and the Russians have nothing to do with it. Once you experience it you will see just how terrible a combination human nature and power are. Giving government as little power as possible is the only way to best avoid the inevitable evils of government. Our framers spoke relentlessly on this subject as well as the moral foundation required among the citizens to sustain such a limited government.

Show me one moral man or woman in politics and I will give it my respect.

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BTW: doesn't it seem rather short sighted to judge trump on these financial gains knowing that debt is going up, EPA and regulations are being gutted, state dept. can't keep good people, he's still crying about his dumb ass wall and he just threatened the entire planet, gave away the Pacific and China's quietly sliding in to replace us as the global voice of reason?

This ain't going to end well, for anybody

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

It's exciting at first but it doesn't take long to discover there are no "good" people, there are just people that are good at vying for their personal agendas.

On a lighter note, caucuses are a much more enjoyable experience.

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Ya, I'm cynical but you got to do what you can.

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

OK so Obama, Hillary and the entire Democrat hierarchy lied to the American voters about what they knew about the election.

I have to admit that I'm not surprised that a "Democrat Socialist" wants to play judge and jury on this, fuck the process.

I swear once this is all said and done with, it will end up being all about a few Russian directed satirical YouTube videos.

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Again, what's the conspiracy theory you're talking about?

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Originally Posted by cwolff

BTW: doesn't it seem rather short sighted to judge trump on these financial gains knowing that debt is going up, EPA and regulations are being gutted, state dept. can't keep good people, he's still crying about his dumb ass wall and he just threatened the entire planet, gave away the Pacific and China's quietly sliding in to replace us as the global voice of reason?

This ain't going to end well, for anybody

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I hope the EPA gets gutted, it's an agency filled with idiots who's jobs wholly rely on preventing the creation of wealth.

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

I hope the EPA gets gutted, it's an agency filled with idiots who's jobs wholly rely on preventing the creation of wealth.

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Again, dreadfully short sighted. Do you remember Cleveland circa 1970?

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Again, dreadfully short sighted. Do you remember Cleveland circa 1970?

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There's a difference between a clean environment and killing 10's of thousands of middle class jobs, creating inflated prices on natural resources and stifling entrepreneurship.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Again, what's the conspiracy theory you're talking about?

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The one where the Russians made Clinton lose the election. You know, where millions of Americans were tricked into voting for Trump by Russian internet bots and the Democrats didn't know about any election interference before the election then knew about election interference 2 years before the election after they lost the election.

That conspiracy.