A thread for Ashliana

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Originally Posted by Shaps

So it's confirmed black Americans should be called.... get ready for it.... Americans.

This point will be lost on the insane.

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Elon Musk is actually an African Canadian American. He has triple citizenship. He is the richest African Canadian American of all time.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Elon Musk is actually an African Canadian American. He has triple citizenship. He is the richest African Canadian American of all time.

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Oh I know, it's just fun watching the hemming and hawing of the insane.

Elon is literally an African-American - through citizenship. Do we really count Canada though? I mean, it's Canada.. pshh..

I'd just be happy calling Americans, I don't know... Americans. Peoples heritage and family lineage is a wonderful thing and should be celebrated and accepted - but it shouldn't separate us - I just see us as all... American.

Maybe I'm to idealistic. I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Just because you haven't, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Americans

http://www.eaachicago.org/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...pean-americans

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So you didn't address what I said, and those links still don't support your notion of referring to people who aren't black as "African-American," and notably, you pretended I didn't ask you to provide a claim of Musk identifying as African-American.

Anything else in the ol' bag of intellectually dishonest tricks?

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Originally Posted by Shaps

So it's confirmed black Americans should be called.... get ready for it.... Americans.

This point will be lost on the insane.

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You sure seem frustrated that you don't get to police other people's identities, or the lenses through which they view them. Isn't it funny how you've only voiced views on this topic with regard to racial identity, and not, say, political identity?

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

If I didn't come up with the metric and announcing it.. how would I manipulate you into deleting your own posts?

Keeping this to myself would be completely counter to my objective here.

Silly.

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But wait, aren't my posts here entertaining -- so any deletion would contradict the goals of your earlier stated assertions. Were you wrong then, or wrong now?

It's almost like you don't think anything through, and pointing out your comically poor reasoning is child's play. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

So you didn't address what I said, and those links still don't support your notion of referring to people who aren't black as "African-American," and notably, you pretended I didn't ask you to provide a claim of Musk identifying as African-American.

Anything else in the ol' bag of intellectually dishonest tricks?

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What dishonest trick? Elon Musk was born in Africa to an African father. His mother was Canadian. He later got citizenship in the US. He is an African Canadian American.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

What dishonest trick? Elon Musk was born in Africa to an African father. His mother was Canadian. He later got citizenship in the US. He is an African Canadian American.

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Well? Can you provide any examples of Musk identifying as an African-American? That's the specific claim you kept making.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

Well? Can you provide any examples of Musk identifying as an African-American? That's the specific claim you kept making.

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I don't play with identification politics. I play with facts. He was born to an African father, a Canadian mother, and became a US Citizen. He is an African Canadian American.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

I don't play with identification politics.

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Except that's exactly what you're doing. You were asked three times, and each time failed to provide any examples of Musk identifying as African-American, so there we are. Better luck next time, though, and figuring out that intellectual dishonesty doesn't constitute an argument.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

Except that's exactly what you're doing. You were asked three times, and each time failed to provide any examples of Musk identifying as African-American, so there we are. Better luck next time, though, and figuring out that intellectual dishonesty doesn't constitute an argument.

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Nope. It is a fact that he was born in Africa to an African father. It is a fact his mother was Canadian. It is a fact that he later got citizenship in the US. It is a fact that he is an African Canadian American, and the richest one ever.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Non-sequitur that doesn't address what Ashliana said.

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So.. that's a concession, you realize, right?

Musk is South African. Utterly different than being African-American.