Backrash quit again, or is just posting using a new handle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
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Backrash quit again, or is just posting using a new handle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
People voted for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado_Ame...endment_(2018)
They voted for a committee, not for a committee to gerrymander. Just call it out like you would if this were a Republican state doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
It was a little more than just the committee.Quote:
Shall there be an amendment to the Colorado constitution concerning a change to the way that congressional districts are drawn, and, in connection therewith, taking the duty to draw congressional districts away from the state legislature and giving it to an independent commission, composed of twelve citizens who possess specified qualifications; prohibiting any one political party's control of the commission by requiring that one-third of commissioners will not be affiliated with any political party, one-third of the commissioners will be affiliated with the state's largest political party, and one-third of the commissioners will be affiliated with the state's second largest political party; prohibiting certain persons, including professional lobbyists, federal campaign committee employees, and federal, state, and local elected officials, from serving on the commission; limiting judicial review of a map to a determination by the supreme court of whether the commission or its nonpartisan staff committed an abuse of discretion; requiring the commission to draw districts with a focus on communities of interest and political subdivisions, such as cities and counties, and then to maximize the number of competitive congressional seats to the extent possible; and prohibiting maps from being drawn to dilute the electoral influence of any racial or ethnic group or to protect any incumbent, any political candidate, or any political party?
He shows up now and then, posts stupid things, and then fucks off again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Just going off what you posted from the information - couple things jump out.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
1. I'm not sure how having only 12 people in charge of it is any better. To few, to easy to corrupt, to little oversight.
2. This is the big one for me - "limiting judicial review of a map to a determination by the supreme court of whether the commission or its nonpartisan staff committed an abuse of discretion".
That is a glaring red flag, if I'm reading the legalese correctly. Limiting the judicial oversight to ensure no abuses occur? Seems extremely suspect.
Also "they voted on it" doesn't mean shit half the time, because no one ever reads what's in it. They just hear the name it's given and repeated.
Rest looks okay for the most part. But that oversight clause, and only 12 people wielding the power, is just asking for issues down the line.
I can only speak for when I lived in Colorado - first lived there was amazing... then over 5 years Denver (and by proxy Colorado Springs) turned to utter shit riddled with trash, homelessness, and failing businesses. Was sad to watch.
Hopefully it's improved, but no idea.
It was also a bi-partisan amendment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I laughed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais