Russia Investigation Heating Up

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Originally Posted by time4fun

ROFLMAO

First off- have you ever even worked in politics?

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HERE WE GO

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Originally Posted by time4fun

So first- people keep eliding "Mueller having evidence that Trump colluded with Russia" and "Mueller sending Trump to jail". They're two VERY different things, particularly in this case.

You're correct that nothing is likely to happen while he's in office. Because the only thing that CAN happen is impeachment- which is a political process, not a juridical one. No one is arguing otherwise.

And Mueller's report is almost guaranteed to avoid making any recommendations regarding what to do with Trump. It will likely lay the facts out in full view with an implied next step.

Finally, just because Trump coordinated with Russia doesn't necessarily mean he broke any laws. He *likely* did, but there are grey areas in the case law on definitions for a thing of value and how involved you have to be in a hack to be a conspirator.

But whether- and which- laws were broken is candidly irrelevant. We cannot make this okay. Our democracy won't survive it.

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Is this the same sort of meltdown you had over the election of 2016, where you've never been more scared of an election outcome.. because your illegal, gay, {insert any other conversation we were having at the time} would certainly be in danger?

Specifically: How has anything in your life changed since President Trump took office? He come into your house, grab your illegal, gay, etc... brother and kicked him out of the country yet?

Stop being so fucking emotionally dramatic... it makes people realize you aren't mentally stable.

Our democracy will survive this and everything else you are so upset about.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

ROFLMAO

First off- have you ever even worked in politics? Anyone who had would be laughing hysterically in your face right now.

But, more to the point, for your cute "what if" to be true- we'd have to believe that Vladimir Putin took great steps to separate out the Trump Tower Moscow project (and his $50m penthouse bribe) from all of his decisions around helping Trump get elected President. That would be frankly fucking astounding for anyone, but it would be particularly so for a man who regularly uses business deals to recruit assets.

On top of that, we'd have to then believe that TRUMP- scrupulous and deliberate as he is- didn't at all factor in the way he was treating Russia with the pending $300m Real Estate deal he needed Putin to sign off on in order to make it real. Of course, you'd be left having to explain why Trump lied about the real estate deal and ordered Cohen (and presumably his campaign staff and family) to lie about the deal to Congress.

And then you'd have to come up with some other explanation as to why candidate Trump- notoriously indifferent when it comes to policy- just "happened" to have picked up some REALLY strong opinions about NATO, Russian Sanctions, the Ukraine, and election meddling- all of which favored Russia at the expense of the US.

And THEN you'd have to explain why Trump decided to roll back Russian sanctions- which were levied for the election meddling- immediately after being elected- an explanation that would need to include some justification for why they tried to do it in secret. While you were at it, you'd have to explain why candidate Trump- who had been informed by the FBI and the Russian government that Putin was actively trying to help him win the election- repeatedly worked to convince people none of that was going on.

The fact that you thought it was wise or effective to substitute an empty platitude for any meaningful response to the specific situation is what indicates that you are just not very smart.

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Let's not go blowing your full load tonight. Your rematch doesn't start until Midnight.

Save some of this good stuff for the ring.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

HERE WE GO

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Stop making fun of her. You know she has worked in government and the UN and anywhere else you deem it necessary to have some real world experience to make her the authority.

Just listen to her. She really does think she knows what she's talking about... if you have no idea what the Dunning–Kruger effect is.. that is........

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Originally Posted by time4fun

ROFLMAO

First off- have you ever even worked in politics? Anyone who had would be laughing hysterically in your face right now.

But, more to the point, for your cute "what if" to be true- we'd have to believe that Vladimir Putin took great steps to separate out the Trump Tower Moscow project (and his $50m penthouse bribe) from all of his decisions around helping Trump get elected President. That would be frankly fucking astounding for anyone, but it would be particularly so for a man who regularly uses business deals to recruit assets.

On top of that, we'd have to then believe that TRUMP- scrupulous and deliberate as he is- didn't at all factor in the way he was treating Russia with the pending $300m Real Estate deal he needed Putin to sign off on in order to make it real. Of course, you'd be left having to explain why Trump lied about the real estate deal and ordered Cohen (and presumably his campaign staff and family) to lie about the deal to Congress.

And then you'd have to come up with some other explanation as to why candidate Trump- notoriously indifferent when it comes to policy- just "happened" to have picked up some REALLY strong opinions about NATO, Russian Sanctions, the Ukraine, and election meddling- all of which favored Russia at the expense of the US.

And THEN you'd have to explain why Trump decided to roll back Russian sanctions- which were levied for the election meddling- immediately after being elected- an explanation that would need to include some justification for why they tried to do it in secret. While you were at it, you'd have to explain why candidate Trump- who had been informed by the FBI and the Russian government that Putin was actively trying to help him win the election- repeatedly worked to convince people none of that was going on.

The fact that you thought it was wise or effective to substitute an empty platitude for any meaningful response to the specific situation is what indicates that you are just not very smart.

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tr;dr damn you're stupid. Keep posting though. We're all enjoying laughing at your desperate butthurt "arguments". :lol:

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Originally Posted by time4fun

ROFLMAO

First off- have you ever even worked in politics? Anyone who had would be laughing hysterically in your face right now.

But, more to the point, for your cute "what if" to be true- we'd have to believe that Vladimir Putin took great steps to separate out the Trump Tower Moscow project (and his $50m penthouse bribe) from all of his decisions around helping Trump get elected President. That would be frankly fucking astounding for anyone, but it would be particularly so for a man who regularly uses business deals to recruit assets.

On top of that, we'd have to then believe that TRUMP- scrupulous and deliberate as he is- didn't at all factor in the way he was treating Russia with the pending $300m Real Estate deal he needed Putin to sign off on in order to make it real. Of course, you'd be left having to explain why Trump lied about the real estate deal and ordered Cohen (and presumably his campaign staff and family) to lie about the deal to Congress.

And then you'd have to come up with some other explanation as to why candidate Trump- notoriously indifferent when it comes to policy- just "happened" to have picked up some REALLY strong opinions about NATO, Russian Sanctions, the Ukraine, and election meddling- all of which favored Russia at the expense of the US.

And THEN you'd have to explain why Trump decided to roll back Russian sanctions- which were levied for the election meddling- immediately after being elected- an explanation that would need to include some justification for why they tried to do it in secret. While you were at it, you'd have to explain why candidate Trump- who had been informed by the FBI and the Russian government that Putin was actively trying to help him win the election- repeatedly worked to convince people none of that was going on.

The fact that you thought it was wise or effective to substitute an empty platitude for any meaningful response to the specific situation is what indicates that you are just not very smart.

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God help your peers if you ever wind up on a jury.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

HERE WE GO

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Stop making fun of her. You know she has worked in government and the UN and anywhere else you deem it necessary to have some real world experience to make her the authority.

Just listen to her. She really does think she knows what she's talking about... if you have no idea what the Dunning–Kruger effect is.. that is........

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https://i.imgur.com/2z60iyk.jpg

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Originally Posted by time4fun

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh that's darling.

Because Putin has no history of killing off people who know too much.

It's not like anyone with ties to this whole situation has mysteriously died. Oh well except this guy.. Oh and this guy. Oh and this guy, but, hey, they figure it was probably for some other reason aside from being an informant for Steele. And it's not like Fusion GPS testified in a Congressional hearing that there were any deaths related to the dossier going public. Oh wait- except they did.

It's so cute when your ignorance shows.

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Except you were the one who was wrong, yet here you are anyway trying to twist it into you're somehow right and everyone else is dumb.

Seriously, when was the last time you took a dump?

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Originally Posted by Taernath

https://i.imgur.com/2z60iyk.jpg

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This is the most correct thing posted for today. Possibly of all time.