Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Methais

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Man you're a miserable fuck. You used to be cool, now you're a jr version of PB.

There are other options in life.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Actually, Russia banned it because they said it allows people to spread misinformation too easily about their invasion of Ukraine, not that they(Russia) couldn't spread things. I imagine they still have their paid agents churning out shit on FB.

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That's it. Whom do you believe? I'm going to let you in on a secret. They're all liars.

By now, I'm sure you've all seen video of Ukraine's UN ambassador reading text messages from a Russian soldier to his mother. The messages were taken from a cell phone found on the Russian soldier's body after Ukrainians killed him.

Do you believe those were real text messages sent by the deceased soldier or something manufactured by Ukraine? If I wanted to generate false war propaganda -- something at which I would be very good; in fact, I would really excel at it -- I would have written similar text messages, except that my fake text messages would have been even more believable and more heart wrenching. I can recognize a fake.

Take a stroll down memory lane by reminding yourself about very successful but fake war propaganda from the first Iraq war.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Seran has to be the biggest moron in the world to think that by Russia banning Facebook that their government can't still spread misinformation to their heart's content.

I tried to imagine how someone can be as dumb as Seran and I just got a headache thinking about it.

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Russia bans Facebook, denies it's people access to the truth. What's so hard for you to understand about English?

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Looks like they are about to take over a whole country.



Looks like the stories were true. Ukraine doesn't stand a chance.

At all.

What's the US going to do? We're going to impose SANCTIONS!

Putin is laughing at the US right now.

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You think taking over a country which will operate guerilla style warfare for the next twenty years exceeds the value of hundreds of billions in lost assets, revenue and reserves? You've severely overvalued the value of sunflower oil from Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Looks like they are about to take over a whole country.



Looks like the stories were true. Ukraine doesn't stand a chance.

At all.

What's the US going to do? We're going to impose SANCTIONS!

Putin is laughing at the US right now.

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There was never any doubt that Russia was going to win against Ukraine. It was about making it as tough as possible. There will undoubtedly be an insurgency.

But what would you have the US do?

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

Man you're a miserable fuck. You used to be cool, now you're a jr version of PB.

There are other options in life.

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You were never cool... and Trump exposed you for the retard you have always been.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

There was never any doubt that Russia was going to win against Ukraine. It was about making it as tough as possible. There will undoubtedly be an insurgency.

But what would you have the US do?

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Establish a no fly zone.

Force is the only thing Putin understands. He's a bully.

He's lived with sanctions for the past what.. 10 years? How is that strategy working out for us? Hasn't really hurt him at all.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Looks like they are about to take over a whole country.



Looks like the stories were true. Ukraine doesn't stand a chance.

At all.

What's the US going to do? We're going to impose SANCTIONS!

Putin is laughing at the US right now.

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You're not wrong about Russia taking over Ukraine. Unless something significant changes, it's more an issue of "when" than "if". Holding the entire country, on the other hand, is going to be virtually impossible long term.

But you are dead wrong about Putin laughing at the US. You saying that indicates to me that you haven't really bothered to read much beyond headlines.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Establish a no fly zone.

Force is the only thing Putin understands. He's a bully.

He's lived with sanctions for the past what.. 10 years? How is that strategy working out for us? Hasn't really hurt him at all.

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"Sanctions" is an umbrella term for a lot of things. There is no comparing what the West is currently doing to Russia to any other situation. They pull cards out of the deck that no one- including them- ever believed they'd actually do. And they're talking about even more severe sanctions as we speak. Don't confuse what has happened this week with what has happened in the past. This is unprecedented for an economy of this size. Their economy has functionally started melting down at this point. They would need a lot of help to keep things from imploding there, and even China is being very hesitant with any significant aid.

Secondly, a no-fly zone puts US, EU, and/or NATO planes in direct military combat with Russian planes and makes us the aggressors. That's called a declaration of war. If Putin- whom you may have noticed isn't coming across as particularly sane right now- decides that the West is out to destroy Russia by engaging in economic AND military war what do you think he's going to do?

While I realize that overly reductive views of the world are consoling when you don't feel equipped to handle it, they make better headlines and campaign slogans than they do actual foreign policy.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

"Sanctions" is an umbrella term for a lot of things. There is no comparing what the West is currently doing to Russia to any other situation. They pull cards out of the deck that no one- including them- ever believed they'd actually do. And they're talking about even more severe sanctions as we speak. Don't confuse what has happened this week with what has happened in the past. This is unprecedented for an economy of this size. Their economy has functionally started melting down at this point. They would need a lot of help to keep things from imploding there, and even China is being very hesitant with any significant aid.

Secondly, a no-fly zone puts US, EU, and/or NATO planes in direct military combat with Russian planes and makes us the aggressors. That's called a declaration of war. If Putin- whom you may have noticed isn't coming across as particularly sane right now- decides that the West is out to destroy Russia by engaging in economic AND military war what do you think he's going to do?

While I realize that overly reductive views of the world are consoling when you don't feel equipped to handle it, they make better headlines and campaign slogans than they do actual foreign policy.

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Well, we could stop buying their oil and make ourselves energy independent again. We could sell natural gas to the EU so they wouldn't be beholden to Putin. We could have kept energy costs low and not allowed Putin to stockpile cash and supplies on the backs of the Western energy economy. We could have not had a POTUS saying on national TV that invasion was mostly ok. But hey, no more meat tweets.

Fuck you Leftist shills, this blood is all on you. So far, you haven't been able to have a POTUS since before Carter that managed to not start a war.