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    08-13-2022, 01:48 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Actually, after looking over things again (and not after a 13 hour work day)- I'd say you're correct here. Generally in the EO, the role of POTUS...
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    08-13-2022, 12:43 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    He was knowingly in violation of the Presidential Records Act in fairness- none of that material is his. It's all government property- so he has no...
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    08-13-2022, 11:37 AM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Yeah...intent definitely matters. You have to prove someone knew, had reason to suspect, or reasonably should have known what they were doing was...
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  • Solkern's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 10:14 AM
    Solkern replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    According to trump means absolutely nothing. There’s a process to declassify documents, it’s not just Trump saying I declassified them. Doesn’t...
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  • Solkern's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 10:04 AM
    Solkern replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    I think you are misunderstanding my use of “force”. Trump forced the government to use the FBI to raid his home because of his failure to turn over...
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  • Solkern's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 09:43 AM
    Solkern replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Being ignorant isnít an excuse, at all.. especially when it deals with top secret documents. Next, I donít buy the ignorance excuse, that would have...
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  • Taernath's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 09:37 AM
    flippin heck
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  • time4fun's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 01:03 AM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    You're correct that Seran is quoting DoJ guidelines. But the particular pieces he cited come directly from Executive Order 12958, which pertains to...
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  • Solkern's Avatar
    08-13-2022, 12:37 AM
    Solkern replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Why did they have to keep going back and back and back again to get the documents? Obviously he didn’t want to turn them all over. He knew exactly...
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    08-13-2022, 12:22 AM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    This is a amusingly twisted take on things No, what I'm telling you is that investigators from various parts of the DoJ showed up to Mar-a-Lago...
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  • Bhaalizmo's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 11:09 PM
    Russian Circles - Gnosis
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    08-12-2022, 09:36 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    I *think* it was just the FBI, on their behalf. But we have to take a step back here. The *ONLY* reason why they showed up and forcibly removed...
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    08-12-2022, 09:22 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Yes. They decide what the rules are. And neither Trump nor Biden have changed the rule that there is a formal process to classify or declassify...
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    08-12-2022, 09:00 PM
    Time4fun: When you frequently capitalize and bold certain words, is that to be read with emphasis in an even louder & more bitchy tone than what I...
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    08-12-2022, 08:54 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    No, I said the Biden Administration has the authority to decide what is and isn't classified right now. And so IF they continue to hold the same...
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    08-12-2022, 08:49 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Which part, specifically?
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    08-12-2022, 08:42 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    Literally no one is arguing that makes sense. Literally. No. One. And, in fact, you've just demonstrated exactly why the argument that Trump could...
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    08-12-2022, 08:39 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    I should also point out that the legal issues here completely obscure the REAL issues. Let's say that Trump DID declassify TP/SCI material- that...
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  • time4fun's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 08:32 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    So you're actually starting to hit at the real issue here: a President CANNOT just "privately decide" that something is magically classified or...
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    08-12-2022, 07:24 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    No, the primary question is if they ARE classified or not and if Trump has been aware of that fact (or had reason to suspect or reasonably should...
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  • Bhaalizmo's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 07:12 PM
    Santana - Samba Pa Ti
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  • time4fun's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 07:09 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    No it wasn't. Trump was also in violation of the Presidential Records Act. He had previously been served a subpoena to return those records because...
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    08-12-2022, 07:07 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    It's actually an irrelevant question anyway. Even if we adopt the stance that Trump had the ability to psychically declassify material without going...
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    08-12-2022, 07:05 PM
    Taernath replied to a thread Divergence 2.0 in Gemstone News
    Make sure you've trained in sufficient water lore to grease up your buttholes, wizards.
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  • SHAFT's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 04:14 PM
    SHAFT replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    If he declassified them (he didn't), there would be a process to go through. There would be evidence of this and people to verify it. If he...
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    08-12-2022, 04:11 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    The court warrant has been unsealed. You can find copies of it here. Trump is being investigated for potential violations of three primary...
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    08-12-2022, 03:46 PM
    time4fun replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    That's because that's literally what it is. It's also a complete lie. National Archives has already refuted the claim about Obama. So- to the...
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  • SHAFT's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 03:36 PM
    SHAFT replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    $20 says we learn sometime in the future he tried to sell the info or had discussions about it.
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    08-12-2022, 03:36 PM
    SHAFT replied to a thread FBI raid on Trump's home in Politics
    You'd go to jail if you stole classified documents regarding nuclear weapons and foreign presidents. Insane republicans want to champion a guy who...
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  • Stanley Burrell's Avatar
    08-12-2022, 02:19 PM
    That's pretty insightful, thanks d00ds :thumbup:
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