AS bonus calculations with 4x bow and ebladed arrows

[ctsfinest]

I'm level 18. My bow is definitely 4x, but when I fire an ebladed arrow, my AS only increases by another +11. Shouldn't it increase by up to another +5 (bringing my total AS bonus to +36)?

With regular bow = 176
With ruic longbow = 196
With ebladed or faewood arrows = 207
With regular bow and ebladed or faewood arrows = 196

[Gnomad]

Are those store-bought arrows or ones fletched by a player? If you suck at fletching, it gives a negative to AS.

[Vusit]

E bladed are +20(? Never messed with them), bow +20 = +40 you need to be half the level to get the full bonus.

[ctsfinest]

They are +20 arrows, fletched by a player. As stated above, with a 0x bow, the arrows are giving me +20 both with the ebladed ones as well as faewood. My assumption is that I would be receiving a partial bonus of +36 at level 18. I am only receiving a total AS bonus of +31. Am I calculating something incorrectly?

[BriarFox]

You should have a +36 with a 4x bow and 4x arrows, so there has to be another explanation. Are you hunting in stance offensive?

[ctsfinest]

Yep - stance offensive, nothing else out of the ordinary. Get the full +20 bonus from arrows with a 0x longbow, but when I use the ruic longbow plus any of the special arrows, it's +31. +20 if I use the ruic longbow with a plain ol' wooden arrow, nothing on it.

[BriarFox]

Have a bard sing to the bow and the arrows just to confirm the enchant, and then I suppose drop in an assist to see what's going on. From what you've said here, it should be working fine.

[Gnomad]

They are +20 arrows, fletched by a player. As stated above, with a 0x bow, the arrows are giving me +20 both with the ebladed ones as well as faewood. My assumption is that I would be receiving a partial bonus of +36 at level 18. I am only receiving a total AS bonus of +31. Am I calculating something incorrectly?

Yeah, your numbers check out, I was just thinking that the plusses and minuses might get applied in an unexpected way from fletching since you were off by exactly 5 AS and novice fletchers start at -5 AS. Stranger things have happened.

[ctsfinest]

Checked with the crystal in the abandoned workshop or wherever that is, and it says green beam. I have to be missing something somewhere. It's just odd that when I fire with a 0x bow, the arrows are +20, and if I fire regular arrows, the bow is clearly +20. I guess I'll stick it out two more levels to see if I get a full +40 bonus, I'm not going to lose sleep over +5 AS for now.

I'll try out an assist from a GM and see where that gets me.

It is a wand bow. That shouldn't matter, right? Like I said, bow is +20 when firing normal arrows, but with ebladed/faewood arrows, my AS goes from 196 to 207.

Edit: I think I figured it out, I'm at work so I can't test it. I bet the arrows are master fletched and giving me an added +5 bonus. I assumed the fletcher HAS to have 500 ranks in order to get the +5 bonus. I'll try buying regular arrows from the shop and see if my AS is 171 with those. If that's the case, that explains it.

[BriarFox]

You don't need to be fully mastered to get the +5 bonus to your fletched arrows (it's around 480+, IIRC), but master-fletched arrows shouldn't matter. You'd just have a 4x bow and 5x arrows, and when you used them together, the AS bonus would still cap at your level / 2 (rounded down). It's weird that it's off by +5 exactly, though, I agree. Did you try just e-blading a store-bought arrow?

[ctsfinest]

That's my next plan. I foolishly did not think to try that, not realizing I did not need to be 500 ranks of fletching to get the +5 AS bonus from a fletched arrow. I bet that is the issue. My base AS would be 171 in that case, and +36 would bring it to +207 which would make complete sense.

Still learning the ways of rangering. I plan to test a store bought arrow this evening; will confirm. Thanks for the discussion!

[BriarFox]

Ahh. I think you found the issue.

[TheBastardOfStark]

Don't arrows have varying degrees of AS bonus depending on rank/luck?
I feel like I've made +2 and +3 arrows at one point and couldn't bundle them, for the life of me couldn't figure out why.

[BriarFox]

Don't arrows have varying degrees of AS bonus depending on rank/luck?
I feel like I've made +2 and +3 arrows at one point and couldn't bundle them, for the life of me couldn't figure out why.

Yep.

[ctsfinest]

Confirmed - I am a dope and was getting the +5 AS bonus from master fletched arrows. All is well with calculations.

[Whirlin]

Don't arrows have varying degrees of AS bonus depending on rank/luck?
I feel like I've made +2 and +3 arrows at one point and couldn't bundle them, for the life of me couldn't figure out why.
Yes... the degree of AS bonus/terribleness is emphasized in the final taper cut.

There is also a another roll associated with the initial cut of the shafts, which can cause changes in STR/DUR (I think?), which can also cause similar tapers to be unbundle-able.

It's best to wait til 500 ranks to begin really making arrows for personal use. Fortunately with fletching, that's usually not an insane timeline.