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[Shaps]

So I am starting to get back into my Empath, after neglecting him for quite a long while. So thought I would inquire if anyone suggests any changes. I am mainly a healer on him, with the capability to hunt/rescue. I also just switched from shield/brawl to Runestaff. I'll admit that is taking a bit of getting used to. Any recommendations at this point moving forward would be appreciated.

(at level 51), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 70 15
Physical Fitness...................| 259 159
Arcane Symbols.....................| 150 50
Magic Item Use.....................| 150 50
Spell Aiming.......................| 206 106
Harness Power......................| 153 53
Mental Mana Control................| 150 50
Spirit Mana Control................| 150 50
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 153 53
Survival...........................| 153 53
Perception.........................| 153 53
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30
First Aid..........................| 206 106

Spell Lists
Major Spiritual....................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 30

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 51

Race: Giantman Profession: Empath (shown as: Runeworker)
Gender: Male Age: 62 Expr: 2656115 Level: 51
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 92 (36) ... 92 (36)
Constitution (CON): 86 (28) ... 86 (28)
Dexterity (DEX): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Agility (AGI): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Discipline (DIS): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Aura (AUR): 87 (13) ... 87 (13)
Logic (LOG): 84 (12) ... 84 (12)
Intuition (INT): 62 (6) ... 62 (6)
Wisdom (WIS): 80 (15) ... 80 (15)
Influence (INF): 84 (22) ... 84 (22)

He is in CoL for wracking and staunching.

Appreciate any advice, especially with regards to the runestaff route; Is a new thing for me.

[Jeril]

Surprised no one has responded to this yet. I don't like bolting on anything but my wizard. I went the other way and over trained spells for CS. With them removing the bonus MMC gave to boneshatter it isn't really needed any more and I'd suggest you just go with 1x in spirit mana control. If you don't use MIU or scrolls, I'd suggest you junk those as well, but to each their own.

[Aluvius]

If you're going to bolt at all you should get the ranks to use Web bolt (20 SL:Summoning). Its quite useful and more ranks in SL:S gives a greater chance to web with each bolt. You can also set your target on fire if they're webbed by throwing in a 111 bolt.

Ditto on what Jeril said about dropping MMC. The MIU and AS is so cheap though and you do get benefits from runestaff defense and scroll/item durations that I'd say keep them 1x.

If you're going to hunt more I'd drop the ML:Transform for other uses, too. The rt doesn't bother me as much but then again I rarely heal. Most others that heal more seem to want to keep it.

[Shaps]

Great input and appreciated.

-I didn't realize about the MMC (I was just doing it, I guess to do it and get the spellup/mana regen benefits). That would save me a lot of points though.

-I like having the spell aim personally, so think would keep that. I know CS casting with overdoing spells is probably a more savvy move, but I like having options.

-I do like MIU and Scrolls, and I did do 1x for the Spell ranks. I am currently at 10 spell ranks a level, is that to much or? If I drop MMC, I'll be at 9. My understanding for runestaves is that they require at a minimum 8 ranks per level.

-I do like having the Transformation Lore. Makes my healing so much easier and smoother, and that is something I like.

Thanks again both of you for the help.

[Jeril]

8 magic ranks per level is just a base line that gives you roughly equal parry DS compared to 1x training in two-handed weapons. My empath and sorcerer only have 4-6 magic ranks per level and their DS is just fine. Those runestaff ranks give you more DS early on but later the cost of maintaining a good number of runestaff ranks is more then what you'd pay for spell ranks to give you more DS.

[Shaps]

Ah. Okay thanks Jeril! Guess more spells it is then moving forward. Much obliged.

[audioserf]

Echo'ing what Jeril said. My empath is 75 on a super spell heavy CS build and just wrecks house; if you're prepared to avoid the few creatures you can't hunt with 1106/1115 it's an awesome path. 40 MjS 43 MnS 136 Empath spells currently I think, 397 CS as a dwarf with a few enhancives. Throwing up Spirit Slayer makes grizzled tasks flat-out laughable. No lores, either (I don't heal often enough to care about RT).