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iJin
10-28-2015, 11:22 PM
So I need some advice on how to move forward with this work situation. This has never happened to me at work--so I'm at a stump on how to proceed. Prepare yourself for a story.


So I recently got a promotion at my company, as well as others. I've been with the company for 3 years now, and this other person who is my peer, has only worked with the company for a year. Anyways, while we were away at training for the position, this person who is a 28 year old, black lesbian short lady who looks like a 15 year old has had a problem with me from the start. Why? I haven't the slightest clue. I will admit, while at the training I was the overeager one to learn everything, and helped with projects merely because I asked, while she and the other's in my position got left behind. Whatever, I'm an over achiever.

Fast forward to now, and it is very bad. Now, I'm going to be truthfully honest. I'm a nice person, and I'm never rude. I left shit roll off my shoulders, I'm not a control freak, I expect people to do their jobs. In my position I'm a dispatch supervisor you can say, so I have a lot to do with a lot of multi-tasking. I also have associates in the building that I have to maintain working relationships with, and tend to their needs if they come up, and I also have to have working relationships with the delivery teams that I manage. Easy enough, I'm good at my job. I've gotten feedback that in my building, I'm actually the best one. Whatever.

Anyways for weeks now, this angry peer of mine comes onto shift (and me knowing her attitude, I just answer her questions without any attitude back) attempting to micro-manage me, double checks my work, if I forget something she quickly reminds me and then tells my manager, gets EXTREMELY upset if I don't say hello to her in a perked up way, gets even more angry if I'm not looking directly at her when she's speaking to me (mind you I try to make eye contact, but I'm literally glued to watching my screen at all times), and it's just ridiculous. I feel like I'm constantly walking on eggshells around her.

So the first mishap, she texted me some pretty unprofessional text messages where she went REALLY ghetto on me. I even had to show it to my other peer/friend who works the same shift as me because I didn't understand most of it. I saved those messages obviously, but it upset me, because I did nothing to warrant such hostility.

So because I know she has went to the managers already and bitched about me, and I haven't at all--that was my breaking point, so I sat down with my manager who I'm really cool with. I hated having to talk with him, but I wasn't sure if I were to take those messages to HR or what. I didn't show them to anyone. Basically, what my manager told me was to just not give her any reason to complain. Not really the answer I wanted, but whatever fine.

Weeks past, and we fake smile and joke and socialize a bit, and I thought okay maybe things are starting to turn around. Until I start hearing from my best friend who is on my shift, tell me that this girl is talking about me again behind my back, and again starts the micromanaging and the bullshit. So TODAY, I was already so fed up, so done. I remained as professional as possible, I never curse I never raise my voice or anything--but basically when we are doing our dispatch job we dock our laptops on these stations where we have 3 monitors connected. If you unmount the laptop, all the windows get messed up and you have to set it up again. TODAY wasn't even her scheduled shift, she was there working on a project, and I had stepped out on a break (which I never fucking take breaks) and she decided to unmount my computer and put hers on it. That was the straw that broke the camels back. What I said was, raising my finger at her:

Me: So you're closing computers now? That's what we're doing?
Her: I didn't close your computer.
Me: You got my computer, you pressed the undock button, took it off, closed it, and placed it over there. Is that or is that not closing and undocking my computer?

So I took my computer and excused myself and left to my manager to ask for another project to do. I wasn't even going to bitch about it. Then she STORMS in sand says we all have to have a meeting, and says I went off on her, and she got very frustrated because my manager was asking her why was she even in my section when she wasn't supposed to be there? Then he turned me to and asked me if I knew she was supposed to be in, and I said no, and he agreed he didn't know she was supposed to be in. Then she kept rambling on and, LOL, I couldn't help it but I raised my hand and shush her politely. Anyways, so that happened and it was so embarrassing I kept standing by the door listening while she complained, then afterwards my manager spoke to me about it. He didn't seem phased about it, and just seemed surprised he hadn't known about the problem before. Like I said, I'm not a complainer at work. I put my head down and do my job and focus on providing numbers.

Anyways--I don't know where to go on from this. My manager said I could apologize or not, but I didn't and I'm not. I didn't do anything wrong. I have said sorry previously just to get the situation settled, but it's just better for a few days and then goes bad again. Ugh, for her being 28 she's acting like she's 18. I never ever talk to the managers about anything not work related, because I find it silly. She continuously yells at them, causes problems, and believe me--is the problem child.

Anyways, what would you guys do. Whew, felt good to just write about it.

Androidpk
10-28-2015, 11:44 PM
HR

Taernath
10-28-2015, 11:46 PM
She's a peer? Don't interact with her if at all possible, not worth it. The plus side is that if she is as witchy as you make her out to be, she has probably also pissed off other people around her.

If she's attempting to get you fired or in trouble and sending you threatening(?) texts, you'll need to show your manager and probably HR.

iJin
10-28-2015, 11:46 PM
She's not really helpful either. lol. She's actually new to HR.

Taernath
10-28-2015, 11:50 PM
Who, HR? You still need a paper trail.

iJin
10-28-2015, 11:50 PM
She's a peer? Don't interact with her if at all possible, not worth it. The plus side is that if she is as witchy as you make her out to be, she has probably also pissed off other people around her.

If she's attempting to get you fired or in trouble and sending you threatening(?) texts, you'll need to show your manager and probably HR.

Our other peers kind of roll over and play dead and let her have her way, because they rather not have to deal with it. Our higher up managers know she's a pain already.

But no she can't get me fired, nor in trouble. I'm leaving her no room to get me in trouble as I deliberately stay a few minute past my 10 hour shift to make sure I don't forget to do anything. I even use her horribly played out excel spreadsheet. heh. Which I really want to fix, but that will just make me seem bitchy, won't it?

Candor
10-29-2015, 12:09 AM
It is unlikely that such a person is being a problem only with you. In the long run the problem with likely solve itself. In the meantime, all I can suggest is:

Keep a log of your interactions with her - especially any negative interactions. If you are making entries every day, fine. This log could come in handy later, and might even be legally admissible if things were to really go south. Be 100% truthful in this log, do not exaggerate.

Keep a copy of every written communication she sends you.

Stay calm, never get upset (let her do that...), be professional, and ultimately let your work speak for itself.

Don't protect her. It sounds like she is going to screw up at some point - let her face the consequences for her actions. It is extremely unlikely she is ever going to be your friend, don't make the attempt. Be professional but distant.

Good luck.

SHAFT
10-29-2015, 12:15 AM
Obviously she must be punished: leave an empty box of chocolates for her filled with the largest cockroaches you can find. Do this anonymously of course.

Astray
10-29-2015, 12:46 AM
So glad I'm my own HR. The only person I have to answer to is the owner and she's always backed my decisions.

But yeah, on topic, get the general opinion of your co-workers and then bring it to your manager or HR. It's always difficult exposing someone who is well-liked but ridiculously easy when it comes to someone everyone hates.

Tei
10-30-2015, 05:54 AM
Seems like all of you, including managers, let her get away with her shitty attitude.

When she gets angry, upset or tries to micro-manage what do you say? Not saying anything or ignoring the problem, fake smiles and joking basically tells her she can continue behaving the way she does. Why has your manager not stepped in and addressed her poor behaviour?????

From what you posted it seems like you have over-analysed yourself and your actions when you don't need to. Like someone above posted, keep good notes of your interactions, this will come in handy when HR get involved.. because it sounds like your manager isn't doing their job. If you haven't clearly communicated the problem to him then you need to do so. Once you have done that all you can do is your own job and stay professional. Again, let your manager do THEIR job. If they're ignoring it you need to go to HR, they are there for a reason, use them.

>that will just make me seem bitchy, won't it?

What is more important.. is that you have a staff member who is disrupting the team and therefore disrupting the business. Address the problem, all of you.

GS4Pirate
10-30-2015, 07:32 AM
Sounds like your employer and some of your fellow employees are caught in the trap that is political correctness. Just the text you received if it is as "ghetto" as you make it out to be would be grounds for termination. But the " 28 year old, black lesbian" has your employer frozen like a deer in the headlights, I see this shit every day with my current employer.

Wrathbringer
10-30-2015, 08:20 AM
I'd kindly explain that sometimes black women disappear and aren't found for awhile, or sometimes ever. That should do it.

Soulance
10-30-2015, 10:23 AM
I'd just reiterate what a few others have said - start a paper trail. It already sounds like she is self-destructing and will eventually be found out. Just stay your course, do your job. You don't have to take any abuse from her...report it when it occurs. If it gets really bad, tell her you will be recording your conversations with her from here on out. You don't have to, but maybe she won't come bother you anymore. :)

Your demeanor sounds a lot like mine, not wanting to cause any trouble and just go about my business. I tend to look at myself more than what others are doing to make sure it isn't me. I HIGHLY doubt it is you though we did not see the whole interaction. If it truly is the last straw, then hard copies and evidence is the only way to go nowadays unless you can find another job somewhere else.

Sorry about your trouble though, never a fun situation.

Luftstreitkräfte
10-30-2015, 10:36 AM
I had a very similar experience in my workplace. The person continued to be disruptive until she moved on to a new position. Despite promotion and increase in responsibilities this person hasn't changed. I am supervising the department she worked in so I'm glad she's gone because if she was still there it would be a shitshow.

Atlanteax
10-30-2015, 02:47 PM
Sounds like your employer and some of your fellow employees are caught in the trap that is political correctness. Just the text you received if it is as "ghetto" as you make it out to be would be grounds for termination. But the " 28 year old, black lesbian" has your employer frozen like a deer in the headlights, I see this shit every day with my current employer.

This is most likely why supervisor is being "just apologize".

But you are going to be doing yourself a disservice in the long-run, particularly with your career there, if you continue to refrain from *reporting her harassment* to HR.
She likely may self-destruct as others point out, but there is a good chance that you will 'go down' with her (especially if she continues with behavior that essentially sabotage your ability to work, iie undocking your computer).

It may cause problems for your supervisor (or your relationship with him) if you just lay out the harassment to him ... as he may be 'powerless' to do anything concrete, and would have to resort to HR himself (which would be more difficult for him, essentially being a 3rd party).

So, document, and report the harassment to HR (especially if you still have her text on your phone).

iJin
10-30-2015, 04:42 PM
I guess. I have just had a conversation once with my manager's manager and he said something along the lines of this is very childish and not the reason why we hired you guys, as if it was my doing. Hence that comment, which I bloody agree this is very stupid, I try to refrain from saying anything to our managers.

But here I am on my day off, and even though I'm off the clock I take work with me. Unfortunately, my job with the company is very serious to me and I'm not going to be leaving anytime soon for the next couple of years, and as much as I like to play off that shit doesn't bother me it does. Now I just dread for Sunday when I have to go into work and see her. Sigh.

It's come as far as me having to screenshot my screens as proof that I did something on my shift correctly, because she's that conniving.

Our HR rep is gone in San Diego and won't come back till the 7th of Nov. So I have to make sure shit stays civilized till then.

Edit: Also; I have two managers. One who basically tells me to not give her a reason to complain. The second in the later part of the story who had no idea this was going on. Third an operations manager who thinks this is childish. :/

iJin
11-27-2015, 09:16 PM
So update:

Work has been cordial for the most part....at least to my face. My favorite manager came back from his vacation, and I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm his favorite but....I kind of am. Anyways, once he got back we've been joking and he comes to me with projects to do, jealous co worker female person bitch thingy sees this and asks who gave me the project. My manager kind of brushes her off and goes straight to me (with good reason, she kind of told him off before his vacation), anyways she wasn't having it, and supposedly she spoke with him.

She told him basically how he's always going to me for everything, how he doesn't say hi to her like he does me, that I get all the projects, and she's not being developed like I am (even though I'm not) and all this childish shit. I guess he apologizes and says he will work on it. Then the brat for some REASON decides to tell him that yes his relationship with me is uncomfortable for her and it's only because I have a crush on him. Apparently, I have a crush on my manager. Why in the holy fuck would she even tell him this? Now I can barely look at my manager in the face. I mean, obviously I've had but I feel the good relationship him and I had might change or some shit and it just pisses me off.

Like seriously. All the while I still just do my work, do some improvements for our processes, and never tell a soul about how I feel about the situation. Oh, and I only know about this because she happens to tell my friend everything and she then tells me.

FFS.

Androidpk
11-27-2015, 09:23 PM
Get in the octogon. Touch gloves.

iJin
11-27-2015, 09:31 PM
If only, if only. Sometimes I look at her and daydream about such things.

Ltlprprincess
11-27-2015, 11:09 PM
As everyone else has said, paper trail. What she is sound is a clear case of workplace harrassment and ashes doing it for one of two reasons: she feels Enfield because she feels she falls under the "protected" position due to race and sexual orientation and because you are a clear threat to her role. People get petty when there are others who are sing a better job than them. Those text messages are evidence and you can start building your case with hr now just with those. I wouldn't wait much Looney to escalate.

kutter
11-27-2015, 11:30 PM
Get a bodycam, make sure you tell your boss and HR and let all your subordinates know as well. Video goes a long way to ending stupid stuff. She will either modify her behavior or her employment will end. I would love to be able to wear one for this one person in my shop but recording devices are persona non grata in my workspace; that whole classified material thing.

Lady Lightning
11-28-2015, 12:58 AM
My move: If she complains again or even grumbles, just smile at her. It will infuriate her, sending her over the edge and she'll get herself fired.

Parkbandit
11-28-2015, 09:37 AM
My move: If she complains again or even grumbles, just smile at her. It will infuriate her, sending her over the edge and she'll get herself fired.

This.

Make it a game.. include your favorite manager if you like. See who can be the nicest to the bitch on a daily basis. You will get enormous entertainment out of it and it will drive your little black lesbian nuts.

Win/Win

MotleyCrew
11-28-2015, 11:06 PM
I even use her horribly played out excel spreadsheet. heh. Which I really want to fix, but that will just make me seem bitchy, won't it?

Fuck no, do it. Leave hers but make a fixed version.

iJin
11-29-2015, 01:51 AM
Oh yeah; I'm nice to her to her face. That's the thing. I'm always pleasant. Ever since I kind of went off on her weeks ago, she doesn't push my buttons anymore but she is now trying to get to the managers and slander my name without me knowing. Whether or not the managers will believer her is another story. I doubt it.

Especially when she's telling them I have a crush on them. I still can't seem to wrap my mind around why she would say that. Like seriously.

Jarvan
11-29-2015, 09:12 AM
A LONG LONG time ago, I was next in line at my job for full time employment, I was technically only part time even though I worked 40 hours for a year. I had been passed over for full time (the company gave full time based on seniority, that's it) due to the person behind me having a medical condition (epilepsy) and having had seizures at work, they wanted to reduce their exposure to risk. Understandable. Anyway... I was working as normal, doing my job, and even going above and beyond on my normal station. I never even heard whispers of anything.

One day, the manager of my department pulls me into his office and tells me that I haven't been performing as expected. I was forgetting to do X,Y,Z and all the non department people in my station were fed up with it. He looked me in the eyes and said that it was so bad, "It's like you aren't even working". I said I had no idea what he was talking about, and he explained to me that this other employee was covering for my "slack". I had known this guy for 5 years, I got "promoted" by him numerous times for excellent work. So I took off my badge handed it to him, and told him I quit. He was upset and said I should at least stay for 2 weeks as a courtesy. I said, "Why, it's like I am not even working now".

I went down to the floor I was working on and talked to the other people that worked their not in my department to ask them what I had done wrong. They had no clue what I was talking about. They loved it when I worked as I made sure everything was done and there wasn't stuff missing.

Later, I found out that the bitch that was behind me in line for full time wanted it, and started fabricating this story. Apparently for a month when she was on after me, she would alter reports to make it look like I didn't even bother to do inventory and other functions. She made up shit the other people said.

Basically.. don't take chances. CYA. ALWAYS CYA.

Oh.. about a month after I left, I got the people in the other department to back me up, and she got fired. He offered me my job back, and I told him to shove it up his ass.

iJin
11-29-2015, 10:15 AM
Well what am I supposed to do! I'm not going to go running to my managers about everything she does because well...that's what she does! I just make sure that I do everything I need to do perfectly and then some. Pick up extra shifts, talk up my associates, help my managers, back up my managers when they're being scolded by my ops...not sure what else to do.

I'm just trying to take the high road over here. Hm.

Ltlprprincess
11-29-2015, 10:22 AM
The high road works in most situations, but it seems this one is gunning for you and the high road can only go so far before you end up at a cliff's edge.

iJin
11-29-2015, 01:48 PM
At this point this chick was already told off two of my managers, one of them being my operation managers. My managers know my work ethic and see my numbers producing results. I just don't want to stoop low and act like a child.

Since she isn't coming to me directly saying this shit it's hard for me to document any of it.

Gsgeek
11-30-2015, 06:42 PM
It's not a matter of acting like a child or running and complaining to your bosses, the problem is your manager and HR dept are not taking care of business and it seems to be continually escalating. As some of the people previously have said, document as much as possible whats been going on. I think you even mentioned this person had texted stuff to you? HR should have handled that as harassment among the other things it seems she had done. HR should be documenting a lot of the things shes supposedly been doing too. If they aren't when it has been brought to their attention, again, they aren't doing their job.
As for interaction with her, as much as possible keep it related to the job and that's it. No , Hi's, how are you doings, niceties, etc. Try to limit it.
The thing you don't want, is for this to go on and on and escalate more and have your company decide in order to solve the problem, to term both you guys.
Had that happen recently at my company.
Anyway, good luck.
Try to leave work at work, so to speak.

Atlanteax
12-01-2015, 08:42 AM
Well what am I supposed to do! I'm not going to go running to my managers about everything she does because well...that's what she does! I just make sure that I do everything I need to do perfectly and then some. Pick up extra shifts, talk up my associates, help my managers, back up my managers when they're being scolded by my ops...not sure what else to do.

I'm just trying to take the high road over here. Hm.

Striving for the high road or "being the better person" in this scenario will unfortunately end poorly for you.

MotleyCrew
12-01-2015, 12:55 PM
Striving for the high road or "being the better person" in this scenario will unfortunately end poorly for you.

Agreed.

She is trying to oust you, for whatever reason, it doesn't matter. Look, you seem a reasonably intelligent young lady who is trying to do the right thing. But, as mentioned, doing the right thing will probably end up biting you in the ass. For some reason instead of meeting this head on as I would have expected from you from your posting style over the years, you're whining like Gnome Rage. No one is going to fix this for you, you have to do it yourself. Unless you like that gnaw in the pit of your stomach every time you head to work until it becomes so unbearable you move on. Which is precisely what the bitch who is bad mouthing you wants. What you need to do is schedule a meeting with her and whatever bosses (yes all of them) that she is running to and iron things out. It will not resolve itself.

Jhynnifer
12-01-2015, 01:21 PM
I'm not 100% sure I agree with the Atlanteax or Motley Crew on this one. If management has had issues with her attitude in the past (whether it relates to you or not) and you've shown that you come in, do your job successfully and not cause rifts... eventually they're going to get sick and tired of her bullshit and deal with her. If you start running to management every time she pisses you off then they're going to get annoyed/tired of you and then all that hard work you've done goes out the window because all they see is "PROBLEM EMPLOYEE". Now that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be keeping those texts and hell, everytime you talk to your managers about the situation I'd follow it up with an email reiterating what was said and what you mutually agreed upon to continue that paper trail (and to keep facts straight for both parties) so eventually should they come to you regarding the things she's saying you can clearly point out how you've approached every instance of her antics and what steps you've taken to rectify the situation.

You can be the better person and strive for the high road without rolling over and taking her bullshit. Continuing doing a good job, ignore her as best you can (can you listen to earbuds at work? If so, I'd come in, say hello in the perkiest voice you can manage and plug those badboys in... that would let her know irrevocably that you neither want to listen to her bullshit nor do you want to talk to her. Even worse for her, she can't call you out on it without looking like an idiot). Create a paper trail as best you can. If she starts nagging/berating you again... let her know you're going to record the conversations for management, whip out your phone and plunk that bad boy down. She'll start leaving you alone real quick.

The shitiest part of this is that she's made it personal in going to your boss and telling him you have a crush on him. Anything you say to him, or the other managers is only going to make it worse for you. This is one of those instances where you're going to have to put on your big girl pants, look him dead in the eye and act like it doesn't matter/didn't happen. After all, who CARES if you do have a crush on him or not... it has not affected your professional relationship with him until now, stop letting it.

Astray
12-01-2015, 02:52 PM
You could also beat the fuck out of her off the clock. Bitch can't be a problem if she's in a coma.

MotleyCrew
12-01-2015, 04:04 PM
If you start running to management every time she pisses you off then they're going to get annoyed/tired of you and then all that hard work you've done goes out the window because all they see is "PROBLEM EMPLOYEE".

This is not what I meant at all. Just a one time meeting where she (the bitch) has no where to run or hide. No chance to lie. It, whatever her 'it' is, all comes out into the open. Make her feel like you want her work experience to improve and how can we resolve the issues together.

I of course agree with the keeping the paper trail, keep doing your best, be pleasant...yadda yadda yadda. But, this bitch just doesn't seem to want to let go of her bite and won't unless forced to. There comes a point when enough is enough and it's part of managements job to step in and settle this once and for all.

Tisket
12-01-2015, 07:08 PM
I like you Jin but I don't buy that you are entirely blameless in this either. It doesn't matter who started this. It's probable (unless you are an extraordinary actress) that she's picked up on your dislike of her and she's reflecting it back at you. Find something to like or respect about her. I mean seriously, she's not Satan, she's just a coworker. Coworkers who get along find ways to help each other, the ones who don't get along find ways to obstruct and frustrate. And you're very wrong if you think someone doesn't notice mental eye rolls and distaste from a coworker. Emotions show so show positive emotions. I know it's hard to accept but our thoughts and feelings are not impenetrable mysteries to the people around us.

Tisket
12-01-2015, 07:35 PM
Rep comment:

Thread: Work drama (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?99092-Work-drama&p=1823074#post1823074)
lol take your own advice

Except I get along with all my coworkers so I guess I already do.

:shrug:

RSR
12-01-2015, 07:40 PM
You get along with the stove and the toaster?

Tisket
12-01-2015, 07:43 PM
haha

edit: 7705

Astray
12-01-2015, 07:44 PM
You get along with the stove and the toaster?

God, if the stove at my work were sentient, I think it would have terrible things to say about the other appliances. Terrible, racist things.

Tisket
12-01-2015, 07:46 PM
God, if the stove at my work were sentient, I think it would have terrible things to say about the other appliances. Terrible, racist things.

lol

(see my edit in the previous post)

Ltlprprincess
12-01-2015, 07:46 PM
God, if the stove at my work were sentient, I think it would have terrible things to say about the other appliances. Terrible, racist things.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Astray again. :banghead:

Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-01-2015, 11:44 PM
Having worked in HR for 7 years I can tell you this much; People who complain to HR get put in a negative light. Like it or not, that is a reality of corporate America.

All this talk of create a paper trail, document everything, tell HR, etc... do you seriously think someone in HR gives two shits about you or your arch nemesis? Adults work shit out; keep being a top performer and your reward will be leaving her behind, or better yet, becoming her boss. Speaking of bosses, they don't give a shit about you or her either; nobody likes drama. Everybody likes professionals.

Not advocating you let her walk over you, but I'd take some of the other advice you've gotten here, and kill her with kindness. In your first post about her being promoted in 1 year versus your 3 years it's apparent there is some friction between you... squash that shit deep down inside and take it out on a loved one at home. Save the drama for your mama!

Just my two cents. Seriously though, going to HR is a bitch move. It's the "report" of real life - and again, 7 years in HR here speaking, corp America will take 1 semi-productive person over a frequent HR flyer any day of the week. No one is entitled to shit in the real world, don't expect HR to be in your corner unless she grabs your ass or does something crazy stupid.

Atlanteax
12-02-2015, 10:18 AM
No one is entitled to shit in the real world, don't expect HR to be in your corner unless she grabs your ass or does something crazy stupid.

Well, the impression, as per iJin's recollections, is that this coworker *has* done something crazy stupid (the text messages for one, suspected workplace sabotage the other).

TheRoseLady
12-02-2015, 11:52 AM
You might try this approach. Ask her, sincerely, if she can help you with something. You mentioned that there were some changes that you would like to make to a spreadsheet and since she's the author, you were hesitant. Most people like to be asked for help, (even if they don't realize it.) If you are in an area that has toll booths, you can test this theory quite easily. One day ask for directions - straight up. Next day ask for their help with directions. It's amazing the how much information you'll get with the second approach. If she's a loose cannon, she'll end up shooting herself in the foot - try to find common ground with her.

I hope that your situation improves.

iJin
12-04-2015, 04:24 PM
Well...I leave for a little bit and then come back to 2 pages.

As some of you have predicted and I was hoping--she's slowly crumbling at work. Thankfully her retarded comment to one of my manager didn't seem to phase him all that much, and while she was trying to sabotage that I began working closely with my operations and senior operations managers on some other projects. I've definitely got a 1 up on her and gained their trust and made some pretty significant changes to all of the the Southern California Amazon 3rd party merchants. Thanks to mee!

Anyways, my operations manager has finally had it with her shit and he's in one way let it slip to me. He was having a discussion with me about why something wasn't done, explained that this other coworker was trying to throw me under the bus, I explained no she was the one responsible for it, then he explained he didn't want me to take this conversation personal like she did--and I reassured to him that I would not. So eh, that's something. Anyways, she keeps making a bunch of little mistakes at work, personally I just think it's karma biting her in the ass. I help her out and ask if she needs help at all with anything, she says she does and so I do. I even stay overtime to help her dispatch things. I'm genuinely always trying to be pleasant with her, even if she is conniving behind my back. lol

But yeah--I'm not going to fucking cuss her out or some dumb shit at work or even off the clock. Amazon is pretty strict on that, and I would lose my job and she isn't worth it. So that's some pretty horrible advice. lol. She doesn't walk all over me or even attempt to anymore ever since I stood up to her weeks ago--so I'm fine in that regard. Her sneaky bullshit is what was pissing me off.

iJin
12-04-2015, 04:31 PM
I like you Jin but I don't buy that you are entirely blameless in this either. It doesn't matter who started this. It's probable (unless you are an extraordinary actress) that she's picked up on your dislike of her and she's reflecting it back at you. Find something to like or respect about her. I mean seriously, she's not Satan, she's just a coworker. Coworkers who get along find ways to help each other, the ones who don't get along find ways to obstruct and frustrate. And you're very wrong if you think someone doesn't notice mental eye rolls and distaste from a coworker. Emotions show so show positive emotions. I know it's hard to accept but our thoughts and feelings are not impenetrable mysteries to the people around us.

I can pinpoint exactly where she decided she did not like me:

We were in training in Austin, and she was hogging the dispatch computer and we had 3 other dispatchers who hadn't been on the computer and therefore weren't getting any experience doing the actual job so I spoke up for them--explaining that everyone should get a turn so they can get experience, and I even said it in a positive manner! :) That is where she decided she did not like me. lol.

Enuch
12-04-2015, 04:41 PM
What state do you live in, that can have a lot of say on how she could be treating, right to work versus privilege to work states. I live in Va and it's tough you could be a pregnant black lesbian and get fired because its tuesday without much cause and its tough to fight, if you are in a state such as that maybe push her self destructive ways to the edge. Also how big is your company? If she truly does bother you is there the option of switching your shift, or having her placed on a seperate shift? If it is a small company thats tough to navigate because whether she is a big ole fat bag of dicks, if there is six people and they need all six, short of a lawsuit she isn't going anywhere.

Methais
12-04-2015, 06:17 PM
Our other peers kind of roll over and play dead and let her have her way, because they rather not have to deal with it. Our higher up managers know she's a pain already.

I'm late to the party, but no. If she's being a cunt, don't just bury your head in the sand. That just gives her incentive to keep doing it more, and probably worse.


But no she can't get me fired, nor in trouble. I'm leaving her no room to get me in trouble as I deliberately stay a few minute past my 10 hour shift to make sure I don't forget to do anything. I even use her horribly played out excel spreadsheet. heh. Which I really want to fix, but that will just make me seem bitchy, won't it?

Fix it. What's she gonna do, complain to the manager that you made it better?


Obviously she must be punished: leave an empty box of chocolates for her filled with the largest cockroaches you can find. Do this anonymously of course.

Cock shaped chocolates. Cock shaped white chocolates.


I guess. I have just had a conversation once with my manager's manager and he said something along the lines of this is very childish and not the reason why we hired you guys, as if it was my doing. Hence that comment, which I bloody agree this is very stupid, I try to refrain from saying anything to our managers.

Tell the manager that you agree, it is childish. Then ask what he's going to do to address the issue of 28-year-old black lesbian that thinks she has immunity from everything because she's a black lesbian acting like a cuntslop.


She told him basically how he's always going to me for everything, how he doesn't say hi to her like he does me, that I get all the projects, and she's not being developed like I am (even though I'm not) and all this childish shit. I guess he apologizes and says he will work on it. Then the brat for some REASON decides to tell him that yes his relationship with me is uncomfortable for her and it's only because I have a crush on him. Apparently, I have a crush on my manager. Why in the holy fuck would she even tell him this? Now I can barely look at my manager in the face. I mean, obviously I've had but I feel the good relationship him and I had might change or some shit and it just pisses me off.

Maybe she's trying to set the stage for some "discrimination" lawsuit for when she eventually gets fired because you're not also a black lesbian.


This.

Make it a game.. include your favorite manager if you like. See who can be the nicest to the bitch on a daily basis. You will get enormous entertainment out of it and it will drive your little black lesbian nuts.

Win/Win

Go totally overboard with it too so she'll know she's being trolled, but not enough to where it's obvious to everyone else.


Oh yeah; I'm nice to her to her face. That's the thing. I'm always pleasant. Ever since I kind of went off on her weeks ago, she doesn't push my buttons anymore but she is now trying to get to the managers and slander my name without me knowing. Whether or not the managers will believer her is another story. I doubt it.

Especially when she's telling them I have a crush on them. I still can't seem to wrap my mind around why she would say that. Like seriously.

Maybe she has a crush on you and is pissed off that you prefer penis.


Well what am I supposed to do! I'm not going to go running to my managers about everything she does because well...that's what she does! I just make sure that I do everything I need to do perfectly and then some. Pick up extra shifts, talk up my associates, help my managers, back up my managers when they're being scolded by my ops...not sure what else to do.

I'm just trying to take the high road over here. Hm.

Document everything and then throw it all on the table at once.

And stop being nice. Nice people get fucked over.


I'm not 100% sure I agree with the Atlanteax or Motley Crew on this one. If management has had issues with her attitude in the past (whether it relates to you or not) and you've shown that you come in, do your job successfully and not cause rifts... eventually they're going to get sick and tired of her bullshit and deal with her.

You're forgetting she has the black lesbian card in her deck, which will probably make her immune to everything short of taking a shit in the middle of the office and making everyone else eat it at gunpoint.


Just my two cents. Seriously though, going to HR is a bitch move. It's the "report" of real life - and again, 7 years in HR here speaking, corp America will take 1 semi-productive person over a frequent HR flyer any day of the week. No one is entitled to shit in the real world, don't expect HR to be in your corner unless she grabs your ass or does something crazy stupid.

SHM is right. Tell HR she grabbed your ass.