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Fallen
10-15-2015, 02:20 PM
From the guys that brought you Kate Upton using a shake weight... I bring you, uh... shock lances question mark?

(This is for Polearms and Runestaves alike)

OVERVIEW
I'd like to introduce you to a new elemental weapon line. The base concept of the weapon line is
a weapon that can be loaded with elemental essences, and fired at creatures. This script cannot be placed on existing items.
This weapon can be unlocked a lot. There are a plethora of potential upgrades, and each upgrade can be further upgraded. These are not including the fluff unlocks.
These are being sold OTS with base stats, and no upgrades. Each weapon can be upgraded at least 9 times.
They hold the elemental power of the metal they are made out of or adorned with: gornar, zorchar, drakar, or rhimar.
Each weapon off the shelf will be a 4x weapon. These are super awesome-samurai-dragon--ninja-robot amazing-weapons and will be 1.5-2.5 million silvers OTS at EG.
All the messaging is tied to the associated element of the weapon. These will be available OTS for polearms, and runestaves.

The Verb/fluff upgrades are separate and easier to find and receive from me.

At EG I will be offering 1 minor upgrade to one category outside of the special upgrades.
I will also be doing random methods for handing out a small handful of lesser upgrades. This would take one category up to lesser, or a second minor.

PLEASE NOTE: Only ONE minor upgrade will be allowed PER account. You cannot trade these around and get them upgraded. My merchant will be the only one unlocking these.


UPGRADES
Here is a brief list of the potential base upgrades, and an overview of the upgrades.

Cooldown: 20 minutes off the shelf, can be lowered.
Power: The critical intensity of the shot can be increased.
Degradation: Can be upgraded to degrade less.
Feedback: Chance to blast yourself, can be lowered.
Charge Reservoir: You will start off with 10 shots, and this can be increased.
Efficiency: 1 essence per 1 charge, can be upgraded to get more charges per essence.
Repair Difficulty: These can be upgraded to lower the chance of failure when repairing.

SPECIAL UPGRADES
Ambient Messaging
Firing Cooldown Reduction (5 to 3 on POINT and RAISE (Major E Wave))
Major Elemental Wave

Fluff Verb Unlocks
These are like any other item, you can get its tier unlocked for more fluffy verbs.
OTS Only contains the ability to POINT it at creatures, PUT in your elemental energies for loading, and FIX to repair it.
After that it is all fluffy fun.

WAVE
As you wave your rhimar lance high overhead, a trail of sparkling snowflakes follows closely behind.

LEAN
You lower your rhimar lance into the ground, leaning against it.

PULL
You pull the haft of your rhimar lance into your side, readying yourself for your next attack.

PUSH
Holding your rhimar lance by the haft and the middle of the spike, you thrust it forward in a salute.

TAP
You drum your fingers on your rhimar lance, and ready yourself in a guarded stance.
You are now in an offensive stance.
You drum your fingers on your rhimar lance, and ready yourself in an offensive stance.

TOUCH
You place your hand against your rhimar lance, and it feels cold to the touch.

SHAKE
You shake your rhimar lance from side to side, a strange popping noise comes from within the lance.

RUB
You take a moment to polish your rhimar lance, it briefly glows an icy blue.


MECHANICAL STUFF
POINT!
Faint energies glimmer along the surface of the rhimar lance, but nothing else happens.

Oh, out of power.
WE NEED MORE POWER.

You pick up some essence of water.
PUT water in lance
You place your essence of water against your lance and ice forms along your lance as the essence of water sinks into its surface.
Your feel the energy perfectly flow into your lance.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

FIRE MISSILES!
point lance at kob
Your shot goes wide, completely missing the kobold.

CRAP Oh wait..

You are now in an offensive stance.

point lance at kob
You point your rhimar lance directly at a kobold and a swirling cloud of frost surrounds its rhimar tip. With a resounding crackle, a shimmering shard of ice leaps from your rhimar lance and impacts the kobold!
... 25 points of damage!
Strange how the cold can burn.
The kobold is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

a kobold runs in and is oh so angry.

SECOND TARGET (Special Upgrade)
point lance at kob
You point your rhimar lance directly at a kobold and a swirling cloud of frost surrounds its rhimar tip. With a resounding crackle, a shimmering shard of ice leaps from your rhimar lance and impacts the kobold!
... 20 points of damage!
Solid blow to the head exposes grey matter on ice!
The kobold is stunned!
A second shimmering shard of ice discharges from your rhimar lance directly at a kobold.
... 25 points of damage!
Massive strike of icy shards shatters the kobold's skull!
The kobold is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Your lance can break, you can fix it bare handed, with springs, or with more associated elemental energies.

fix my lance (This is boosted by holding an associated essence, or a spring)
You set about inspecting the construction of your lance...
You carefully realign some of the springs and adjust some of the segmented tracks within the inner ring of the vise-like clamp on top of the lance.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

It holds the power of the default metal/flare type for regular swings.

You thrust with a rhimar lance at a kobold!
AS: +76 vs DS: +58 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +54 = +107
... and hit for 8 points of damage!
Jarring blow to the kobold's back.

Your rhimar lance glows intensely with a cold blue light!

... 30 points of damage!
Icy blast to neck freezes the kobold's words in mid-speech and leaves it speechless...permanently!
The kobold crumples to a heap on the ground and dies.
Roundtime: 15 sec.



SPECIAL UPGRADES


AMBIENTS?

Turn those Ambients on!
PROD
You push your finger against your lance, it pulses with a cobalt light.

A trail of ice runs up your arm from your lance, falling off moments later.
Your lance glows an icy blue before returning to normal.
A collection of snowflakes fall from the tip of your lance.

RAISE (Auction)
You raise your lance high overhead, a trail of snowflakes following the tip. You change the lance's direction, slamming the butt end of your lance into the ground.
A wave of icy blue ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
A kobold is buffeted by the icy blue ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 70 points of damage!
Icy blast deep freezes one perfectly good heart!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
A kobold is buffeted by the icy blue ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 70 points of damage!
Belly is now a block of ice. So much for breakfast!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
A kobold is buffeted by the icy blue ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 45 points of damage!
Frigid blast shatters the kobold's right leg beyond all recognition!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
A kobold is buffeted by the icy blue ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 55 points of damage!
Blast to neck causes the kobold to jerk with pain. Unfortunately that snaps the now frozen neck like an icicle!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
Roundtime: 3 sec. (CDR Upgrade)

point lance at kob
You point your rhimar lance directly at a kobold and a swirling cloud of frost surrounds its rhimar tip. With a resounding crackle, a shimmering shard of ice leaps from your rhimar lance and impacts the kobold!
... 25 points of damage!
Strange how the cold can burn.
The kobold is stunned!
Roundtime: 3 sec. (CDR upgrade)


If you have any questions, comments, or complaints please send them to P.O. BOX NotRetser.

-Retser-
Icemule Guru
Halfling Guru


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Fallen
10-15-2015, 02:21 PM
Thank you all for attending Question Gate 5115 (QG)

Erykk: Stylistic choice, let me flap my awkward wings... or not, I'll change that. How did that THE sneak into my post!?

KITHUS:
Can all of them be loaded with any essence or does gornar require essence of earth, zorchar require essence of air, etc?
Air for Lightning(Zorchar), Water for Ice(Rhimar), Earth for Earth(Gornar), Fire for Fire(Drakar)

Wizard enchantable? They have flares.
Ensorcellable? Yes.
Will there be special raffle/auction versions offered as well? Not at EG.

How do we get "special" upgrades? Auction quality level, and thus, be available at auction quality events.
Can we get all the special upgrades on one weapon? In theory, yes.
Do the special upgrades count against the total number of minor upgrades the weapon can hold? Yes.

When the weapon "breaks" does it make the entire weapon unusable (i.e. can no longer ATTACK with a polearm) or just stops the weapon from using the special ability until fixed? No, it does not break the entire weapon. You can still attack and do your thing.

What is the chance of it to feedback on us and how damaging is that feedback on average? Starts at 5%, and can be lowered to 0%.

On average how many shots do we get before the weapon needs to be repaired OTS? More than 1, less than 100.

How difficult is the base weapon to repair bare handed? With a spring? With an appropriate essence? You will have to find out!

Can we permanently break these if we fail the repair? No

Crit
Is the base OTS shot equivalent of a standard flare? You will have to test!

How much of a power increase is each upgrade? Over 9000.

How high can this go? Over 9000.

Cooldowns
How much does each upgrade lower this? Starts at 20, and can go all the way down to 2.

-Retser-
Icemule Guru
Halfling Guru

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Gnomad
10-15-2015, 02:34 PM
These are being sold OTS with base stats, and no upgrades. Each weapon can be upgraded at least 9 times.
[...]
My merchant will be the only one unlocking these.
Hot takes:

In other words, you'll pretty much never get your off-the-shelf version unlocked/upgraded.

Glad to see people will have a reason to bigshot creatures that drop essences for more than just alchemy now.

Retser does cool work but man would I never want to be stuck talking to him at a party.

Viekn
10-15-2015, 02:46 PM
Hot takes:

In other words, you'll pretty much never get your off-the-shelf version unlocked/upgraded.

Glad too see people will have a reason to bigshot creatures that drop essences for more than just alchemy now.

Retser does cool work but man would I never want to be stuck talking to him at a party.

Lol, like my 9 year old son who tells 10 minute stories about something that took literally 1 minute to happen.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 02:46 PM
Nice idea, crappy implementation. Who the fuck wants to wait 9 years to upgrade a fucking weapon so you can shoot an elemental shard at a critter?

Roblar
10-15-2015, 02:54 PM
Where do you read 9 years for upgrading?

I read between lines, "at EG" several times. Most restrictions are on a per event basis and the next pay event is in 3 months. Next EG could be different, several pay or free events could offer further opportunities. Seems like a great new script for a project.

Also, this is what I'd pay a mage to enchant once the new enchant spell rolls out.

Fallen
10-15-2015, 02:54 PM
Err, that title should read TEASER, not treasure.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 03:12 PM
I thought wizards could enchant items with flares now?

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 03:14 PM
Err, that title should read TEASER, not treasure.

You mean teasure :p

Allereli
10-15-2015, 03:15 PM
I thought wizards could enchant items with flares now?

ELR HSN RSN

Fallen
10-15-2015, 03:18 PM
I thought wizards could enchant items with flares now?

Not yet. The enchant changes have yet to be implemented.

Astray
10-15-2015, 03:22 PM
Dead sexy.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 03:30 PM
Damn it, fucking PC....


This weapon can be unlocked a lot. There are a plethora of potential upgrades, and each upgrade can be further upgraded. These are not including the fluff unlocks.
These are being sold OTS with base stats, and no upgrades. Each weapon can be upgraded at least 9 times.
They hold the elemental power of the metal they are made out of or adorned with: gornar, zorchar, drakar, or rhimar.
Each weapon off the shelf will be a 4x weapon. These are super awesome-samurai-dragon--ninja-robot amazing-weapons and will be 1.5-2.5 million silvers OTS at EG.
All the messaging is tied to the associated element of the weapon. These will be available OTS for polearms, and runestaves.

The Verb/fluff upgrades are separate and easier to find and receive from me.

At EG I will be offering 1 minor upgrade to one category outside of the special upgrades.
I will also be doing random methods for handing out a small handful of lesser upgrades. This would take one category up to lesser, or a second minor.

PLEASE NOTE: Only ONE minor upgrade will be allowed PER account. You cannot trade these around and get them upgraded. My merchant will be the only one unlocking these.


Okay, maybe not 9 years, but will take awhile. Really doesn't seem worth it to me and yeah, I'm sure someone will figure out a way to game the system and have a fully unlocked one in < 1 year. Doesn't seem worth it to me, considering most of them are fluff unlocks, but, whatever.

Jhynnifer
10-15-2015, 03:37 PM
Given how active Retser and how fast you can rip through a room just unlocking things (hell, he could be really awesome and steal Bazzlewyn's staff of room unlocking), I'm not exactly upset about the amount of unlocks these weapons can have. I'm actually kind of excited about getting one and making something into a project.

Now if they'd just release player flaring weapon enchanting... that'd be nice.

Fallen
10-15-2015, 03:38 PM
The idea is to have a project piece to work on over the years which will eventually result in a near top-tier polearm. Not sure why people are wondering if it is worth it to them. If it isn't worth your time/effort but you still want one, they'll be available via merchant hunters who will put in the work in exchange for silver/trades.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 03:41 PM
I guess I'm tired of project pieces, seems every item they release nowadays has 9542141842248 levels of unlock and the only way to get the full benefit of the item is to wait in line at a merchant like a good little merchant whore. I'm tired of waiting in line to get shit unlocked, I'd actually like to play the game, on occasion.

Donquix
10-15-2015, 03:55 PM
Where do you read 9 years for upgrading?

I read between lines, "at EG" several times. Most restrictions are on a per event basis and the next pay event is in 3 months. Next EG could be different, several pay or free events could offer further opportunities. Seems like a great new script for a project.

Also, this is what I'd pay a mage to enchant once the new enchant spell rolls out.

How are all of those voln and ithizir armors going for people?

Jhynnifer
10-15-2015, 03:56 PM
I guess I'm tired of project pieces, seems every item they release nowadays has 9542141842248 levels of unlock and the only way to get the full benefit of the item is to wait in line at a merchant like a good little merchant whore. I'm tired of waiting in line to get shit unlocked, I'd actually like to play the game, on occasion.

I totally get it... I'm in the pool of people who are upset about Ithzir armor... but at the same time, off the shelf this isn't exactly a crappy weapon. A couple of PP enchants and even without unlocks it's totally viable for a number of my characters. =)

Fallen
10-15-2015, 04:00 PM
The way I look at it is, you can either put in the work yourself and end up with a mechanically powerful item, or save up/buy silvers and get one that way. Option 1 wasn't always so readily available. Option 2 has always been on the table.

Roblar
10-15-2015, 04:04 PM
How are all of those voln and ithizir armors going for people?

Fine?

Those armor scripts are great and powerful and really buff up the item & character wearing them. They should be hard to get. Ithzir has been the harder of the two by far due to unlocks going up tier by tier (except for the one full tree unlock), the dreaded fishhook distribution method, and because the script creator/GM left staff. It also only expanded tiers 2 years ago. Voln script is only 2.5 yr old. I have had several opportunities for both, passing on a ton of Voln chances and selling an Ithzir win. After the tree expansion I got 2 tiers in the last year.

Perhaps I'm just a good little merchant whore. But if you put in the work and go to events, you can get either unlocked, in time. That's what a makes a project!

I think this script is worthy of creating something top end in the long run.

SashaFierce
10-15-2015, 04:39 PM
Fine?

Those armor scripts are great and powerful and really buff up the item & character wearing them. They should be hard to get. Ithzir has been the harder of the two by far due to unlocks going up tier by tier (except for the one full tree unlock), the dreaded fishhook distribution method, and because the script creator/GM left staff. It also only expanded tiers 2 years ago. Voln script is only 2.5 yr old. I have had several opportunities for both, passing on a ton of Voln chances and selling an Ithzir win. After the tree expansion I got 2 tiers in the last year.

Perhaps I'm just a good little merchant whore. But if you put in the work and go to events, you can get either unlocked, in time. That's what a makes a project!

I think this script is worthy of creating something top end in the long run.

LOL, Roblar, the merchant whore.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 04:42 PM
I like the idea but why lance/runestaff only?

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 05:03 PM
I mean, sure, I'll buy one off the shelf and probably try for an unlock. But seriously? 9 unlocks. Yeah, the Ithzir and Voln armor are exactly what I'm thinking of. I finally bought a couple of tier 3 armors on the secondary market, paid a ton for them. Sure I can do without, but what's the fucking point of releasing these mega-uber multi-tiered items if you're never going to offer chances to unlock them? Might as well not release them at all, for fuck's sake.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 05:06 PM
Because:

1: Not every item needs to be a mega weapon of doom.
2: People like project items.

Gnomad
10-15-2015, 05:20 PM
I like the idea but why lance/runestaff only?

Pretty sure it's supposed to be a ripoff of a Monster Hunter weapon:

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Gunlance

Donquix
10-15-2015, 05:51 PM
Fine?

Those armor scripts are great and powerful and really buff up the item & character wearing them. They should be hard to get. Ithzir has been the harder of the two by far due to unlocks going up tier by tier (except for the one full tree unlock), the dreaded fishhook distribution method, and because the script creator/GM left staff. It also only expanded tiers 2 years ago. Voln script is only 2.5 yr old. I have had several opportunities for both, passing on a ton of Voln chances and selling an Ithzir win. After the tree expansion I got 2 tiers in the last year.

Perhaps I'm just a good little merchant whore. But if you put in the work and go to events, you can get either unlocked, in time. That's what a makes a project!

I think this script is worthy of creating something top end in the long run.

first of all, lol at "only 2.5 years"...oh gemstone timelines.

You are not the norm for merchant services, and you should know that.

The point is, the "cool" part of the unlock system was supposed to be you could get decent, but not obscenely good, items easier. More services offered, need more of them...it smooths out the the distribution curve, when done properly.

The problem is they treat even the low and middle tier unlocks as auction quality that go out like twice a year. So just now instead of needing to win 1 raffle, you need to win 4. And hope the GMs running those services aren't fired/quit and if they do someone actually picks up where they left off.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 05:54 PM
Glad at least someone understands my frustration with the current system.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 06:02 PM
Pretty sure it's supposed to be a ripoff of a Monster Hunter weapon:

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Gunlance


Which is itself a ripoff of gunblades from Final Fantasy.

Which is probably a ripoff of something else.

There hasn't been an original idea in anything since the 90's ended.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 06:11 PM
Which is probably a ripoff of something else.


Adeptus Custodes guardian spears. (WH40K)

Roblar
10-15-2015, 06:49 PM
I understand the frustration, but you said yourself you don't like waiting in lines and would rather play the game. I would argue this IS the game, (ok, one rather large aspect), at least during a festival in which you paid extra to attend. I mean, it is basically an immolate weapon. The alternative of harder to get, multi-tier, degradeable, is for a far smaller amount (but complete) to be released. If you had no line to wait for unlocking of over the counter weapons, you're chances are winning something similar but raffle/auction quality (fully fleshed out) is far less.

At least this way allows a larger set of players to obtain it and work on it, as they are able or can afford.

It also adds content to festivals and events, frees up time for coders to work on other or new stuff (rather than having fully complete or quickly achieved items and needing to create more more more), slows down power creep, and creates wealth for those that do find value and sell later to those who did not see merit in the script or time required.

RAR
10-15-2015, 06:51 PM
I'm not a fan of unlocking although it did net me around 20m last eg (sold ithzir spot). I would love to get t4 voln armor one day but I kind of gave up on that dream already. But who knows...I get the feeling that simu is going to have future pay to unlock stuff events.

Allereli
10-15-2015, 06:55 PM
This item lost my interest at 20 minute cooldown. Every word after that turned into Chinese characters

Roblar
10-15-2015, 07:00 PM
I'm not a fan of unlocking although it did net me around 20m last eg (sold ithzir spot). I would love to get t4 voln armor one day but I kind of gave up on that dream already. But who knows...I get the feeling that simu is going to have future pay to unlock stuff events.

Yea I paid 25M for Ithzir last EG, I should have found you! :D

If an unlocking is important to you and the rules allow (very commonly), you can pay for it. Or get lucky.

I'm sure they will have more events (like Briarmoon), but Duskruin will be back eventually. Ask for unlocks on the officials.

Also, more and more items with the requisite unlocks keep getting made and can be purchased on secondary market. I've seen dozens of T4 Volns made, I'm sure every now and then one will go up (if you don't care as much about needing it to be your own armor/creation which I fully get), so that is another potential avenue.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 07:12 PM
Still calling this more Simu bullshit, you want to play the GS wait in line game? Be my guest, I'm not here for Fantasy Black Friday bullshit.

gilchristr
10-15-2015, 07:15 PM
"This item lost my interest at 20 minute cooldown. Every word after that turned into Chinese characters"

Allereli you took the chinese characters right out of my mouth

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 07:15 PM
And as for pay events... I like Duskruin more than this shit. You pay money, you get bloodscrip, you get unlocked items, end of story. No need to pay to buy items and then wait in line to unlock them.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 07:16 PM
"This item lost my interest at 20 minute cooldown. Every word after that turned into Chinese characters"

Allereli you took the chinese characters right out of my mouth

Amen.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 07:20 PM
This item lost my interest at 20 minute cooldown. Every word after that turned into Chinese characters

Aren't you Chinese?

Allereli
10-15-2015, 07:31 PM
Aren't you Chinese?

Heritage-wise, yes, but not in the sense that I know Chinese.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 07:32 PM
And as for pay events... I like Duskruin more than this shit. You pay money, you get bloodscrip, you get unlocked items, end of story. No need to pay to buy items and then wait in line to unlock them.

To each their own. Some of my fondest GS memories have come from waiting in line at events...like Fleurs farting, or various GM NPCs killing idiot people (doesn't seem to happen much anymore, sadly)...regardless, life, and Gemstone, is what you make of it.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 07:34 PM
Heritage-wise, yes, but not in the sense that I know Chinese.

Damn, next you're going to say you don't know kung fu

Archigeek
10-15-2015, 07:37 PM
Gee, what OP weapon style can we make an uber version of? How about the most retarded weapon style in Elanthia, land without horses: grab your lance and giddyap! Only in Elanthia is a lance without a horse not an underpowered spear.

In other news: Roblar, dozens of T4 voln armors? That's a lot more than I would have guessed.

Also, I'm tired of how everything in this game must now be a grind. The black ora hearts this time around appear to be insult added to injury: go to a pay extra event so you can grind some more, so that you can get the chance to go to the SC store to pay some more. Welcome to Gemstone V: aka: Grindstone.

Viekn
10-15-2015, 07:38 PM
And hope the GMs running those services aren't fired/quit and if they do someone actually picks up where they left off.

I've never understood why this is such a big deal. It should be part of SIMU's standard operating procedure that there is a designated person who takes over a script/service if another GM gets fired/quits. The code for the script all belongs to SIMU, delegate another GM to take it over.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 07:43 PM
Gee, what OP weapon style can we make an uber version of? How about the most retarded weapon style in Elanthia, land without horses: grab your lance and giddyap! Only in Elanthia is a lance without a horse not an underpowered spear.

In other news: Roblar, dozens of T4 voln armors? That's a lot more than I would have guessed.

Also, I'm tired of how everything in this game must now be a grind. The black ora hearts this time around appear to be insult added to injury: go to a pay extra event so you can grind some more, so that you can get the chance to go to the SC store to pay some more. Welcome to Gemstone V: aka: Grindstone.

1. Players may not be able to own or use horses but there are horses.

2. Not every lance is a jousting lance.

Allereli
10-15-2015, 07:49 PM
I've never understood why this is such a big deal. It should be part of SIMU's standard operating procedure that there is a designated person who takes over a script/service if another GM gets fired/quits. The code for the script all belongs to SIMU, delegate another GM to take it over.

scripts often aren't delegated. someone has to step up to want to figure it out, or it's taken over to be fixed or nerfed. that's my impression, anyway.

Archigeek
10-15-2015, 07:55 PM
1. Players may not be able to own or use horses but there are horses.

2. Not every lance is a jousting lance.

Right, but the ginormous df only makes sense if you're on a horse, or set to receive an incoming horse. Either way, in Elanthia it makes about as much sense as... oh never mind, it's a fantasy game, nothing makes sense. I need a drink.

Roblar
10-15-2015, 07:56 PM
In other news: Roblar, dozens of T4 voln armors? That's a lot more than I would have guessed.

I count 10 at CCF (as Tier 1 script-adding), 1 at the recent Festival of the Fallen for Voln master raffle, 1 per run of RtCF (so 3). They was also Voln armor slots at 1 or 2 EGs but not bothering to look up how many and what tier, I assume at least 1 T4.

Ok, dozen+ not dozens!

Also the ora heart store item is optional and it is the last year of the upgrades. I mean I wouldn't consider it grinding, if you are going to festival anyway and it takes like 5 minutes to boost a x per day item higher? More like a very nice perk for your annual ticket price.

Warriorbird
10-15-2015, 08:37 PM
Right, but the ginormous df only makes sense if you're on a horse, or set to receive an incoming horse. Either way, in Elanthia it makes about as much sense as... oh never mind, it's a fantasy game, nothing makes sense. I need a drink.

Pikes were pretty amazing, though not really realistic for GS melee combat. If we wanted to go physics based longbows and crossbows would be a lot more frightening. Thankfully every time somebody attempts to bring physics into GS God kills an Aelotoi.

Jhynnifer
10-15-2015, 08:41 PM
Still calling this more Simu bullshit, you want to play the GS wait in line game? Be my guest, I'm not here for Fantasy Black Friday bullshit.

Have you been to Ebon's Gate before? It's pretty much an entire week of playing the GS wait in line game.

Allereli
10-15-2015, 08:44 PM
Ebon's Gate

you did not just say that!

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 08:44 PM
Right, but the ginormous df only makes sense if you're on a horse, or set to receive an incoming horse. Either way, in Elanthia it makes about as much sense as... oh never mind, it's a fantasy game, nothing makes sense. I need a drink.

I've always pictured lances as in the type used in the Final Fantasy games by dragoon hunters, oversized spears. And yes, it is a fantasy game where real world logic needs to be suspended. How are longbows used in CQC? Why does a claid have so much weighting and why can't a master of forging forge one? Not everything is going to make sense.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 08:48 PM
Gee, what OP weapon style can we make an uber version of? How about the most retarded weapon style in Elanthia, land without horses: grab your lance and giddyap! Only in Elanthia is a lance without a horse not an underpowered spear.

In other news: Roblar, dozens of T4 voln armors? That's a lot more than I would have guessed.

Also, I'm tired of how everything in this game must now be a grind. The black ora hearts this time around appear to be insult added to injury: go to a pay extra event so you can grind some more, so that you can get the chance to go to the SC store to pay some more. Welcome to Gemstone V: aka: Grindstone.

See, I took the opposite opinion on that...instead of getting boatloads of crap from the games we just pawn off for 50 silvers, we get something we might actually use, if only for a personal item (which I'd like to see more of anyway)...

Not to mention..."...must now be a grind"...lol. Not even to mention you don't HAVE to get the heart...I've been to EG last 3 years, going again this year, don't have a heart, probably not getting one this year. It's optional, bro. If you want the thing they're offering for free, do the things to get the thing. It's not a difficult concept.

In other news, if you have a better idea, I'm sure they and every other MMO/MUD in existence would love to hear it.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 08:48 PM
Yeah, I've been and I'm already regretting getting my ticket to this years event.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 08:49 PM
I've always pictured lances as in the type used in the Final Fantasy games by dragoon hunters, oversized spears. And yes, it is a fantasy game where real world logic needs to be suspended. How are longbows used in CQC? Why does a claid have so much weighting and why can't a master of forging forge one? Not everything is going to make sense.

Willing suspension of disbelief. Makes everything better.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 08:50 PM
Yeah, I've been and I'm already regretting getting my ticket to this years event.

I'm not. I'm averaging about 60m profit from EG last 6 years (60m each year), don't see this year being any different.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 08:52 PM
Willing suspension of disbelief. Makes everything better.

Including IRL!

Archigeek
10-15-2015, 08:59 PM
Not to put too much focus on the lance thing, but my main point was that there are a ton of weapon styles that could have really used some love. No big deal either way, i just think it would have been better applied to a different weapon type.

Cronstintein
10-15-2015, 08:59 PM
I really don't see the point in these weapons. It's basically a wand-holding runestaff with a 20 minute cooldown. That uses essence for one charge instead of wands for multiple (not an upgrade).

Unless you get the 1 or 2 "auction quality" ones with the major ewave, these seem like a bust.

Jhynnifer
10-15-2015, 09:02 PM
I did, on purpose... because every time I do a certain Fashionista IMs me and chastises me and I giggle.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 09:05 PM
I did, on purpose... because every time I do a certain Fashionista IMs me and chastises me and I giggle.

To this day people are still jeolous of your cap outfit.

Thondalar
10-15-2015, 09:05 PM
Including IRL!

Umm...we're in IRL.

Jhynnifer
10-15-2015, 09:09 PM
To this day people are still jeolous of your cap outfit.

LOL oh you hush.

Androidpk
10-15-2015, 09:14 PM
To this day people are still jeolous of your cap outfit.

Sorry but I can't help but overhear the snappy women talking about it in Icemule.

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 09:17 PM
Don't worry, someone like Thondalar will be able to make a profit off of these and isn't that what really matters?


I really don't see the point in these weapons. It's basically a wand-holding runestaff with a 20 minute cooldown. That uses essence for one charge instead of wands for multiple (not an upgrade).

Unless you get the 1 or 2 "auction quality" ones with the major ewave, these seem like a bust.

Aramyr
10-15-2015, 10:09 PM
Not sure why there is so much bitching about these before they are even out and there has been some time allowed to pass. Don't even try and compare them to Ithzir; that's a clusterfuck since GM that overhauled the script left staff, and Ithzir script is leaps and bounds above this in terms of power as an item. Kind of early to talk about inability to unlock them ever. When it comes to auction tier, other GMs are the ones to be annoyed at. They're the ones that force restrictions in terms of x # of y item/service over any given time period. Retser is around a lot, and I am sure doesn't intend for them to never get many unlocks. Also, this is EG, not CCF. Don't know why people seem to be expecting epic items like can come out of the high-end prem fests. Are EG items or almost any new item going to be as good as the ridiculous shit a lot of us own? Guess what, no! Regardless, he is at least putting in time and effort to try and make something neat for the game. More than can be said about a number of GMs. Also, cool guy to drink with, actually. Maybe I'm just tired of hearing people jump at any chance to whine lately.

gilchristr
10-15-2015, 10:12 PM
Holy stream of consciousness. I kind of thought the term "bitching" to characterize the thread was sort of hyperbole (I didn't read all the posts, but I don't recall seeing any "bitching").

darkcipher
10-15-2015, 10:25 PM
My friend, you have not even BEGUN to see bitching.


Not sure why there is so much bitching about these before they are even out and there has been some time allowed to pass. Don't even try and compare them to Ithzir; that's a clusterfuck since GM that overhauled the script left staff, and Ithzir script is leaps and bounds above this in terms of power as an item. Kind of early to talk about inability to unlock them ever. When it comes to auction tier, other GMs are the ones to be annoyed at. They're the ones that force restrictions in terms of x # of y item/service over any given time period. Retser is around a lot, and I am sure doesn't intend for them to never get many unlocks. Also, this is EG, not CCF. Don't know why people seem to be expecting epic items like can come out of the high-end prem fests. Are EG items or almost any new item going to be as good as the ridiculous shit a lot of us own? Guess what, no! Regardless, he is at least putting in time and effort to try and make something neat for the game. More than can be said about a number of GMs. Also, cool guy to drink with, actually. Maybe I'm just tired of hearing people jump at any chance to whine lately.

Cronstintein
10-15-2015, 10:37 PM
I guess it's my fault for calling them pointless? If Mr "Paragraphs are for Sissies" Aramyr wants to give me a use case for these things, I'm all ears.

I look forward to the people -actually- bitching after paying 2mil for what amounts to a 4x flaring weapon.

Viekn
10-15-2015, 10:58 PM
I guess it's my fault for calling them pointless? If Mr "Paragraphs are for Sissies" Aramyr wants to give me a use case for these things, I'm all ears.

I look forward to the people -actually- bitching after paying 2mil for what amounts to a 4x flaring weapon.

Here are some possible ways these might be better than just a 4x flaring or wand holding staff...

These have elemental flare in addition to the special shot flare. I believe the only wand holding staff that flares currently are acuity flares.


Power: The critical intensity of the shot can be increased.
Can't really do that with flares or wands



Charge Reservoir: You will start off with 10 shots, and this can be increased.
Efficiency: 1 essence per 1 charge, can be upgraded to get more charges per essence.

I might be wrong, but it sounds like once you upgrade the 20 minute cooldown, that upgrading these two options should allow you to use it fairly often. Plus, you can control when you use the elemental blast vs. just waiting for a random flare to go off.

We'll have to wait and see how it plays out, but I get the impression that unlocks for this might come a lot easier than Voln/Ithizir unlocks. I can only hope.

Allereli
10-15-2015, 11:00 PM
I believe the only wand holding staff that flares currently are acuity flares.

that is false

Viekn
10-15-2015, 11:01 PM
that is false

Thanks for correction.

Geijon Khyree
10-15-2015, 11:28 PM
Dragonlance of huma. I have been considering polearm lately for df

Cronstintein
10-15-2015, 11:41 PM
Hey if you like it, more power to you Viekn.

For me, the combined hassle of:
a-repairing
b-fetching elements
c-Cooldowns
d-*multiple* upgrade sessions.

For what amounts to an extra flare every 20/10/5min on a basic 4x flaring weapon.

The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

Viekn
10-15-2015, 11:47 PM
Hey if you like it, more power to you Viekn.

For me, the combined hassle of:
a-repairing
b-fetching elements
c-Cooldowns
d-*multiple* upgrade sessions.

For what amounts to an extra flare every 20/10/5min on a basic 4x flaring weapon.

The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

You may be right. The only thing that will really save them is how available unlocks are. And I don't weekly monthly unlocks. But if you could get all unlocks in 2 years or so, putting in enough time/silvers/work to get them mind you, you might find yourself with a pretty nice weapon. Therefore, I challenge you to a duel two years from now on October 31st on the boulder.

Soulance
10-16-2015, 12:55 AM
Dragonlance of huma. I have been considering polearm lately for df
I loved that series. Had a character when I first started playing GS3 named Enric Stromhold from that series. Wish I could find him again...

Fallen
10-16-2015, 06:59 PM
Hey Everyone, a small announcement! I will be auctioning off one Major unlock in the form of ambient messaging for the shock lance line per instance. (Prime/Plat)

For those wondering how I'll be handling most of my unlocks/services... I will be doing most of my services in the early to late afternoon EST on Saturday/Sunday, and scatter a couple of things during the week, and evenings. Majority of my major services will be on Saturday and Sunday during the outlined times. For everything else, I try to give all time zones love and will be around plenty for minor unlocks.

I do not have specific times as real life is chaotic for me, so, I hope the time frames outlined work out for everyone!

Shocklances
Shock Lances T1: Unlimited, 1 per account.
Shock Lances T2: I will raffle some, spin some, fishhook some, and maybe auction a couple.
I will auction 1 slot for ambients.

WoundedWear
Wounded Wear T1: Unlimited.
Wounded Wear T2: I will raffle some, spin some, fishhook
Wounded Wear T3: I will raffle some, spin some and I might auction one or two.

Ethereal Weapons
I will set up a raffle for one, shortly after that raffle I will start the auction for the second.

I look forward to working with you all, and seeing you all at the festival.

PS - A big thank you to Tamuz, Wyrom, Estild, Auchand, Galene, Elidi, Flannihan, Aiza, Vanah, Sleken, Finros, Zoelle, Sindin, Coase, Konacon, Haliste and Liia (+MORE!) ... for all their help in getting these out for EG this year!

-Retser-
Icemule Guru

Methais
10-16-2015, 07:38 PM
Hopefully one day Simu will just release good stuff that won't take several years to make it worthwhile.

All these gimmicky releases seem like little more than just busy work to keep players distracted from the lack of real content and high end items coming out.

All these merchant unblockable items they've been dumping into the game over the past few years are a bunch of bullshit. They should leave the unlocking in the players hands. They can still make it take as long as they want it to and/or require all kinds of pain in the ass stuff to unlock it further without having to merchant whore it, assuming the GM doesn't just up and quit one day like what seems to have been the case with Ithzir armor.

crb
10-16-2015, 08:45 PM
I read all this and all I need to ask is...

Did you say Kate Upton with a shakeweight?

Fallen
10-16-2015, 08:50 PM
I read all this and all I need to ask is...

Did you say Kate Upton with a shakeweight?

Not Kate Upton but

http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shakeweight.gif

Cronstintein
10-16-2015, 10:08 PM
Hopefully one day Simu will just release good stuff that won't take several years to make it worthwhile.

All these gimmicky releases seem like little more than just busy work to keep players distracted from the lack of real content and high end items coming out.

All these merchant unblockable items they've been dumping into the game over the past few years are a bunch of bullshit. They should leave the unlocking in the players hands. They can still make it take as long as they want it to and/or require all kinds of pain in the ass stuff to unlock it further without having to merchant whore it, assuming the GM doesn't just up and quit one day like what seems to have been the case with Ithzir armor.

I totally agree with this. In some ways Duskruin has been an improvement. The 6x/6x runestaff is way better than anything I've seen OTS since I got back in game. Having to attune it is a serious PITA but at least it's by actually playing the damn game and not paying large sums for raffle-wins.

Fusion was another example of something off-the-shelf that could be made better by players. So I'm sorry they seem to want to nerf it now, even if I'm not a huge enhancive guy.

Soulance
10-17-2015, 08:08 AM
Maybe we'll see simucoins unlock a merchant one of these days.

Methais
10-17-2015, 08:21 PM
Eventually we'll see the BREATHE verb only be accessible by Simucoins, which will coincide with an update that requires characters to BREATHE and EXHALE at least once every 30 seconds. After going 30 seconds without breathing, you'll take damage each round until you either BREATHE or die, similar to the drowning effect that happens when you're underwater for too long, i.e. Darkstone, Nelemar, etc.

There will also be an auto-breathe item made available for Simucoins that will automatically BREATHE and EXHALE for you for 30 days.

Thondalar
10-17-2015, 08:33 PM
I try not to fall into all of this, the hatred and angst and general negative thought...

Those of us who have been here since the late 80's...it is pretty easy to be negative, I suppose...but really...GS now is better than it was then, imo. Granted that's mainly because of third-party programs that just simplify everything, but...as I've said before, I played GS before them, and I'd play GS after...

I've played a lot of other MMO's...from straight f2p like Neverwinter to straight subs with f2p options like Swtor...I look at it like this. Whether you agree or not, the company puts out the product...you make an active decision to agree to their terms on your end. If you don't like it, don't play. It is just that simple.

Jhynnifer
10-18-2015, 03:55 PM
totes, I'm blaming windows 10.

Cronstintein
10-18-2015, 04:28 PM
Bumping the wrong thread I think.

As for Thondalar's post: I don't think critiquing new things that are DOA (like shock lances) is something we should necessarily shy away from. I just won't buy one. But maybe by saying something in the officials, someone with the power to make improvements might actually be inclined to do so.

That's what drives me crazy about the white knights on the officials (not saying you are one, I have no idea). They seem to equate protecting GM feelings with actively fighting against positive change that others try and push forward.

Androidpk
10-18-2015, 04:30 PM
Updated, bump.

My in-game time is fairly limited at the moment, the best bet is for you to either IM me, or PM me with a day/time you would like to pick up your items. I am currently available to deliver to all towns except Teras, including EG.

Thank you.

Psychosis!

Thondalar
10-18-2015, 10:58 PM
Bumping the wrong thread I think.

As for Thondalar's post: I don't think critiquing new things that are DOA (like shock lances) is something we should necessarily shy away from. I just won't buy one. But maybe by saying something in the officials, someone with the power to make improvements might actually be inclined to do so.

That's what drives me crazy about the white knights on the officials (not saying you are one, I have no idea). They seem to equate protecting GM feelings with actively fighting against positive change that others try and push forward.

This boils down to whether you're contributing constructive criticism or just pissing and moaning. It is unlikely to have an effect either way, but I'll never fault someone for standing up for their beliefs, whether it's about a text MUD or anything else. As far as the officials go, I can count on one hand my number of posts there in the last 10 years. I generally avoid the officials, other than to check announcements.

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 03:30 PM
This boils down to whether you're contributing constructive criticism or just pissing and moaning. It is unlikely to have an effect either way, but I'll never fault someone for standing up for their beliefs, whether it's about a text MUD or anything else. As far as the officials go, I can count on one hand my number of posts there in the last 10 years. I generally avoid the officials, other than to check announcements.

Well, you're one of the few that support people having an opinion. Unfortunately, the majority of people see someone with an opinion as a "complainer" or "someone who just wants to bitch". They tried to change the fusion items at EG to 1 slot. I said something on the officials. I was shouted down by 10 people who told me "just shut up and accept it". What happened? They retracted their decision and put the items back to 2 slots. Not one person thought that was due to us "complainers", or at least, none of them said so.

They've released a lot of neat things, however, some of them are not all they could be. I decided to say something, on the officials. I bought one, despite my reservations, because, who knows, maybe I'll win a raffle, maybe I'll find myself at a merchant who can unlock them one day and I'll kick myself if I don't have one handy.

What happened? I got called a hypocrite, human garbage and all sorts of other nasty things by people who don't know shit about my motivations, who don't appreciate that I'm a human being, I'm allowed to have opinions, even if they differ from yours. I don't recall ever shouting someone down for expressing their opinions, on the officials or on here. Then again, I'm not a fucking child who hides behind their avatar and Internet anonymity, taking pot shots at people who aren't afraid to speak their mind.

Stay classy, PC, I'm out in 3 days. If anyone wants anything from me before then, you know where to find me.

-Dark

Jhynnifer
10-19-2015, 03:50 PM
You know... one thing really holds true on the internet, and really fits here. You're entirely welcome to have your own opinion, no one can take that away from you. However, the moment you publicly state that opinion you open yourself up to all the opposing opinions, negative comments and shart reps (this one only applies to the PC I think!) of the community at large. Simply choosing to "take your ball and go home" because you can't take the response to your opinion isn't this forum's fault. The fact that you post whatever you want here without the forum moderations restrictions of the officials is a nice freedom, but it's one that comes with it's own downside.

Tgo01
10-19-2015, 04:32 PM
What happened? I got called a hypocrite, human garbage and all sorts of other nasty things by people who don't know shit about my motivations, who don't appreciate that I'm a human being, I'm allowed to have opinions, even if they differ from yours. I don't recall ever shouting someone down for expressing their opinions, on the officials or on here. Then again, I'm not a fucking child who hides behind their avatar and Internet anonymity, taking pot shots at people who aren't afraid to speak their mind.

Stay classy, PC, I'm out in 3 days. If anyone wants anything from me before then, you know where to find me.

Calm down, guy.

If you don't want to receive any harsh rep then get in the habit of A) Always kissing GM ass and B) Hanging back to see which way the crowd is going and then follow them.

But what fun is it being such a follower and worrying about what everyone else thinks of you?

Here are the 13 negative reps I received within a 24 hour time frame because I had the nerve to post that a GM was acting like an asshole on the officials and I was thus banned for calling him out:

Uhh.. okay? You might want to stop being such a raging neckbeard and step away from the keyboard for a bit
Awesome
Your a martyr for our posting freedoms! Oh wait, your an antagonistic dick that got slapped the fuck down as should be the case.
Except that that's exactly what Simu wants you to do... it's their forums: play by their rules or get banned. Easy-peasy.
Stop being a dick and placing blame on others when you are the one who is at fault. Put on your big boy pants and learn to live in harmony with others. Whether you believe it or not, he was right.
Waaaaaaaah! Waaaah! Sniffle, sniffle... waaaah!
can't tell if troll or idiot
Nope, it is from me.
A hundred post long drama thread/attempt at martyrdom. Though I admit I did burst out laughing at the shocked disbelief that you could be causing drama near the end.
Just "quit" again already.
You deserved it dude.
Seriously dude, just shut the fuck up. -Society
leave the game then

This game is filled with people suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. How did you not know this before now? :/

Astray
10-19-2015, 04:35 PM
You know... one thing really holds true on the internet, and really fits here. You're entirely welcome to have your own opinion, no one can take that away from you. However, the moment you publicly state that opinion you open yourself up to all the opposing opinions, negative comments and shart reps (this one only applies to the PC I think!) of the community at large. Simply choosing to "take your ball and go home" because you can't take the response to your opinion isn't this forum's fault. The fact that you post whatever you want here without the forum moderations restrictions of the officials is a nice freedom, but it's one that comes with it's own downside.

Pretty much.

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 04:35 PM
You know... one thing really holds true on the internet, and really fits here. You're entirely welcome to have your own opinion, no one can take that away from you. However, the moment you publicly state that opinion you open yourself up to all the opposing opinions, negative comments and shart reps (this one only applies to the PC I think!) of the community at large. Simply choosing to "take your ball and go home" because you can't take the response to your opinion isn't this forum's fault. The fact that you post whatever you want here without the forum moderations restrictions of the officials is a nice freedom, but it's one that comes with it's own downside.

Yep.

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 04:38 PM
Calm down, guy.

If you don't want to receive any harsh rep then get in the habit of A) Always kissing GM ass and B) Hanging back to see which way the crowd is going and then follow them.

But what fun is it being such a follower and worrying about what everyone else thinks of you?

Here are the 13 negative reps I received within a 24 hour time frame because I had the nerve to post that a GM was acting like an asshole on the officials and I was thus banned for calling him out:

Uhh.. okay? You might want to stop being such a raging neckbeard and step away from the keyboard for a bit
Awesome
Your a martyr for our posting freedoms! Oh wait, your an antagonistic dick that got slapped the fuck down as should be the case.
Except that that's exactly what Simu wants you to do... it's their forums: play by their rules or get banned. Easy-peasy.
Stop being a dick and placing blame on others when you are the one who is at fault. Put on your big boy pants and learn to live in harmony with others. Whether you believe it or not, he was right.
Waaaaaaaah! Waaaah! Sniffle, sniffle... waaaah!
can't tell if troll or idiot
Nope, it is from me.
A hundred post long drama thread/attempt at martyrdom. Though I admit I did burst out laughing at the shocked disbelief that you could be causing drama near the end.
Just "quit" again already.
You deserved it dude.
Seriously dude, just shut the fuck up. -Society
leave the game then

This game is filled with people suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. How did you not know this before now? :/

You have no idea how fucking calm I am, Tgo. Trust me, if I wasn't calm, you'd know it. As I said, I'm comfortable with my decision, both in speaking my opinion and in taking the neg reps that come with that. I find it interesting that I didn't get banned from the officials, but got shouted down here for stating my opinion and standing up for what I believe in. Yeah, this place has a downside... you can call it Stockholm Syndrome if you like, makes no difference to me what you name it.

Tgo01
10-19-2015, 04:40 PM
You have no idea how fucking calm I am, Tgo. Trust me, if I wasn't calm, you'd know it.

Oh. My mistake then.

Furryrat
10-19-2015, 04:42 PM
Here are the 13 negative reps I received within a 24 hour time frame ...

I was hoping I made this list and am now sad that I did not.

Wrathbringer
10-19-2015, 04:44 PM
I was hoping I made this list and am now sad that I did not.

Same here.

Astray
10-19-2015, 04:47 PM
99.8% of my green reps are all shart related.

So there's that... shit.

Tgo01
10-19-2015, 04:48 PM
You guys must have left me green rep because I listed all the red rep I received from that thread.

So, thanks for the green rep guys :D

I'm assuming this is the Wrathbringer rep I received from that thread:

Shart flow increasing!! Everyone stand back!

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 04:49 PM
Wasn't me... You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Tgo01 again.

Wrathbringer
10-19-2015, 04:52 PM
You guys must have left me green rep because I listed all the red rep I received from that thread.

So, thanks for the green rep guys :D

I'm assuming this it he Wrathbringer rep I received from that thread:

Shart flow increasing!! Everyone stand back!

:lol: As fast as I cycle rep I knew I had to be in there somewhere.

eta: on topic, I will not be buying a shart lance.

Methais
10-19-2015, 05:35 PM
You know... one thing really holds true on the internet, and really fits here. You're entirely welcome to have your own opinion, no one can take that away from you. However, the moment you publicly state that opinion you open yourself up to all the opposing opinions, negative comments and shart reps (this one only applies to the PC I think!) of the community at large. Simply choosing to "take your ball and go home" because you can't take the response to your opinion isn't this forum's fault. The fact that you post whatever you want here without the forum moderations restrictions of the officials is a nice freedom, but it's one that comes with it's own downside.

You do have to admit though, the officials are overflowing with faggots.

And when I say faggots, I mean faggots, not homosexuals.

Warriorbird
10-19-2015, 06:13 PM
You have no idea how fucking calm I am, Tgo. Trust me, if I wasn't calm, you'd know it.

http://img.pandawhale.com/105044-bad-boys-shit-just-got-real-gi-nMpT.gif

Jhynnifer
10-19-2015, 06:20 PM
You do have to admit though, the officials are overflowing with faggots.

And when I say faggots, I mean faggots, not homosexuals.

Meh, I firmly believe that the community has a rather vocal group of people with an overinflated sense of self-entitlement. We could probably argue for the next year as to why, but the fact remains... it's there. But the Officials are also the best place to voice your opinion and not get offended by the heavily moderated response to it.

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 06:21 PM
lol, I'll second the faggots on the officials comment. I'm surprised Wyrom can still stand considering how much his dick gets sucked there.

As for shit getting real.... nah, it ain't no thing... I'm just happy to be free... just wanna be free, man.

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 06:22 PM
One of these days, Methais, you have to tell me who that chick sucking on the other chick's ass is. I mean, it's hot and all, but no context is meh.

Taernath
10-19-2015, 06:29 PM
One of these days, Methais, you have to tell me who that chick sucking on the other chick's ass is. I mean, it's hot and all, but no context is meh.

It's part of a longer video, something like 'lesbian yoga pants ass eaters'. I don't think they even get naked. 3/10

darkcipher
10-19-2015, 06:33 PM
oh, that's disappointing.

Gnomad
10-19-2015, 08:34 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/105044-bad-boys-shit-just-got-real-gi-nMpT.gif

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lflnsoqp8C1qf4elio1_400.gif

Silvean
10-20-2015, 12:05 AM
It's part of a longer video, something like 'lesbian yoga pants ass eaters'. I don't think they even get naked. 3/10

That must have premiered at the cans film festival.

elcidcannon
10-20-2015, 01:08 AM
Calm down, guy.

If you don't want to receive any harsh rep then get in the habit of A) Always kissing GM ass and B) Hanging back to see which way the crowd is going and then follow them.

But what fun is it being such a follower and worrying about what everyone else thinks of you?

Here are the 13 negative reps I received within a 24 hour time frame because I had the nerve to post that a GM was acting like an asshole on the officials and I was thus banned for calling him out:

Uhh.. okay? You might want to stop being such a raging neckbeard and step away from the keyboard for a bit
Awesome
Your a martyr for our posting freedoms! Oh wait, your an antagonistic dick that got slapped the fuck down as should be the case.
Except that that's exactly what Simu wants you to do... it's their forums: play by their rules or get banned. Easy-peasy.
Stop being a dick and placing blame on others when you are the one who is at fault. Put on your big boy pants and learn to live in harmony with others. Whether you believe it or not, he was right.
Waaaaaaaah! Waaaah! Sniffle, sniffle... waaaah!
can't tell if troll or idiot
Nope, it is from me.
A hundred post long drama thread/attempt at martyrdom. Though I admit I did burst out laughing at the shocked disbelief that you could be causing drama near the end.
Just "quit" again already.
You deserved it dude.
Seriously dude, just shut the fuck up. -Society
leave the game then

This game is filled with people suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. How did you not know this before now? :/

To be fair...you were being a dick on the officials and a dick here. So.....yeah.

Consider the can of worms fully opened.

Tgo01
10-20-2015, 01:15 AM
To be fair...you were being a dick on the officials and a dick here. So.....yeah.

Consider the can of worms fully opened.

Stockholm syndrome:

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other." One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat

GS4Pirate
10-20-2015, 02:02 AM
Meh, I firmly believe that the community has a rather vocal group of people with an overinflated sense of self-entitlement. We could probably argue for the next year as to why, but the fact remains... it's there. But the Officials are also the best place to voice your opinion and not get offended by the heavily moderated response to it.

Jhynnifer, here is the link to the RPA "contest" https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/HSN_RPA_Contest

Why is it I could have been able make my own list prior to start of this "contest" and came out with an 80% accuracy as to who would have been at the top? I'm not arguing that some of these folks are fine role players, but for some reason they have been the center of attention for...I don't know...decades? I can also go through that list and see that other guru's were either not informed of the contest or just flat out were not watching their communities.

See there seems to be this common thread that connects the dots here, that being, a small group of people are getting their dicks sucked while the majority of the community is footing the bill. This is often the reason given why people leave this game.

I think you are fine person, but you yourself have admitted in the past to getting "special" attention and I know for sure others have by their own admittance. This is what the circling of the wagons is about on the officials and you can't expect a 30 year old text based game to be successful that charges a high premium, then tells the majority to sit down and shut up after their bill has been paid. Until the day comes that the GM's can finely separate their friendships from their position as GM, will the shit come to an end.

This is just another example of many that has me walking away.

P.S. These are my opinions and yes I have an asshole.

darkcipher
10-20-2015, 07:36 AM
That's just... like... your opinion... man.

(2 days left.)

Whirlin
10-20-2015, 08:22 AM
Jhynnifer, here is the link to the RPA "contest" https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/HSN_RPA_Contest

Why is it I could have been able make my own list prior to start of this "contest" and came out with an 80% accuracy as to who would have been at the top? I'm not arguing that some of these folks are fine role players, but for some reason they have been the center of attention for...I don't know...decades? I can also go through that list and see that other guru's were either not informed of the contest or just flat out were not watching their communities.

See there seems to be this common thread that connects the dots here, that being, a small group of people are getting their dicks sucked while the majority of the community is footing the bill. This is often the reason given why people leave this game.

I think you are fine person, but you yourself have admitted in the past to getting "special" attention and I know for sure others have by their own admittance. This is what the circling of the wagons is about on the officials and you can't expect a 30 year old text based game to be successful that charges a high premium, then tells the majority to sit down and shut up after their bill has been paid. Until the day comes that the GM's can finely separate their friendships from their position as GM, will the shit come to an end.

This is just another example of many that has me walking away.

P.S. These are my opinions and yes I have an asshole.

http://i.imgur.com/a7XMkyc.gif

elcidcannon
10-20-2015, 08:24 AM
It's the FI-NAL COUNT-DOWN

DAHDAH DAH-DAH.......

darkcipher
10-20-2015, 08:30 AM
Look, I've had my issues with Pirate, as much as the next person. Still, he's not wrong, even if you don't want to admit that favoritism exists in GS, just read the dick sucking on the officials to know who's getting what and why.


http://i.imgur.com/a7XMkyc.gif

Wrathbringer
10-20-2015, 08:47 AM
That's just... like... your opinion... man.

(2 days left.)

Well...bye...

Methais
10-20-2015, 09:34 AM
One of these days, Methais, you have to tell me who that chick sucking on the other chick's ass is. I mean, it's hot and all, but no context is meh.

There are a couple links to the full clip in the comments:

http://imgur.com/gallery/xX2o6rR


It's part of a longer video, something like 'lesbian yoga pants ass eaters'. I don't think they even get naked. 3/10

They get quite naked and much shartshooter is eaten.


One of these days, Methais, you have to tell me who that chick sucking on the other chick's ass is. I mean, it's hot and all, but no context is meh.


Well...bye...

You can't post shit like that without this guy:

http://images.dailykos.com/images/147582/large/well..._...bye.jpg?1433902766

Reported to...anyone know where the fuck super Anticor has been lately?

Jhynnifer
10-20-2015, 09:38 AM
Jhynnifer, here is the link to the RPA "contest" https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/HSN_RPA_Contest

Why is it I could have been able make my own list prior to start of this "contest" and came out with an 80% accuracy as to who would have been at the top? I'm not arguing that some of these folks are fine role players, but for some reason they have been the center of attention for...I don't know...decades? I can also go through that list and see that other guru's were either not informed of the contest or just flat out were not watching their communities.

See there seems to be this common thread that connects the dots here, that being, a small group of people are getting their dicks sucked while the majority of the community is footing the bill. This is often the reason given why people leave this game.

I think you are fine person, but you yourself have admitted in the past to getting "special" attention and I know for sure others have by their own admittance. This is what the circling of the wagons is about on the officials and you can't expect a 30 year old text based game to be successful that charges a high premium, then tells the majority to sit down and shut up after their bill has been paid. Until the day comes that the GM's can finely separate their friendships from their position as GM, will the shit come to an end.

This is just another example of many that has me walking away.

P.S. These are my opinions and yes I have an asshole.

I'm kind of confused on this... the only argument I've made here was specifically that DarkCipher was voicing his opinions then turning around and contradicting them. I never discussed the points you've brought up in your post.

GS4Pirate
10-20-2015, 10:08 AM
I'm kind of confused on this... the only argument I've made here was specifically that DarkCipher was voicing his opinions then turning around and contradicting them. I never discussed the points you've brought up in your post.

It was my thoughts on the official forums that you were discussing and my opinion of the reason for all the knob polishing. I mean I would hate to see Whirlin's bow become worth less than the text it's written in. :pirate:

Taernath
10-20-2015, 12:00 PM
There are a couple links to the full clip in the comments:

http://imgur.com/gallery/xX2o6rR



They get quite naked and much shartshooter is eaten.

They weren't naked in the clip posted.

Ceyrin
10-20-2015, 02:20 PM
Lol, like my 9 year old son who tells 10 minute stories about something that took literally 1 minute to happen.

Exposition is important...


Either way, these things look pretty damn cool.