HSN: ELR - Weapon Deflection (412) Updated

[Fallen]

Weapon Deflection will now decrease a target's damage factor by 10%, stackable up to five times. In addition, a group-friendly open cast version of the spell has been created. Every 20 ranks of Elemental Lore, Earth will allow the open cast version of the spell to affect an additional target.

Enjoy!

GameMaster Cyraex

This message was originally posted in Magic Spells/Systems, Minor Elemental Circle. To discuss the above, follow the link below.

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[Fallen]

Looks good to me.

[Astray]

Really nice.

[Allereli]

Awesome


>>Are you saying the spell was designed for this type of situation? If so, really?

Not every spell will be useful in every situation you face, especially true of the minor circle.

The spell was designed decades ago to give your target -25 AS without requiring a warding check.

The current version had a practical benefit added, and a situational benefit added through stacking.

>>Sorry if I don't applaud the game design

The wizard player population has made this a statement of the obvious.

>>Is there some crazy obscure use to 514 I'm not aware of as well? And 512? Is the entire wizard list just a set of spells that are designed to be used once in a character's lifetime? That would explain a lot.

First, 412 isn't exclusive to the wizard class, it's shared by those other lesser classes.

Second, suddenly 412 is somehow lessened by the additional utility? The spell was fine yesterday and suddenly today it's crap? No? It was always crap? Maybe, but it's funny that no suggestions for improvements have been made on it in years. Yet suddenly it's the poster child, like every other spell, for how awful it is to be a mage.

You guys aren't doing yourself any favors by pissing on every single release. Constructive criticism is fine, usually welcomed. Whining just to whine isn't. Lately there's been a lot of whining and little to no worthwhile feedback.

You've around 40 spells that currently have more functionality today than they did yesterday, yet somehow that increased functionality has weakened you as a whole. Your lore training goes further today than it did yesterday, yet somehow you're worse off today? Many spells that were perfectly acceptable yesterday are suddenly crap today, and every single one is being offered up as proof that your class can barely function. Worse, you feel justified in this "righteous crusade" because you've been hit hard by nerfs to your big 3 and it's crippled your class... Except you know... you haven't actually been nerfed at this point, so you're not actually coming across as the innocent victims that have been unjustly wronged that you'd like to appear to be.

We get it, you've a lot of spells in your lists that you'd like to be reviewed and revamped in an official spell review. Good luck making that happen as you continue to piss on the work currently being done, and the people doing it, for your class.

Viduus

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[Taernath]

The posts Viduus was replying to really didn't require that kind of response.

[Menos]

I don't know, at this point I think some posters on the officials are needing a big steaming plate of STFU. When you've moved on from making suggestions to claiming every single other profession is OP and needs to be nerfed if wizards are touched, you've also lost any good will I had for the cause.

::::NERFED::::

[Astray]

I don't know, at this point I think some posters on the officials are needing a big steaming plate of STFU. When you've moved on from making suggestions to claiming every single other profession is OP and needs to be nerfed if wizards are touched, you've also lost any good will I had for the cause.

::::NERFED::::

Nerfed Menos, now he's too nerfed. Unnerf and give us back the Menos we're used to.

[Taernath]

I don't know, at this point I think some posters on the officials are needing a big steaming plate of STFU. When you've moved on from making suggestions to claiming every single other profession is OP and needs to be nerfed if wizards are touched, you've also lost any good will I had for the cause.

None of that was going on in the thread. KEITHOBAD gave some mild criticism and offered a couple suggestions, and Viduus responded with his 'piss on us and nothing gets revamped' post. Now the thread's shit.

[elcidcannon]

None of that was going on in the thread. KEITHOBAD gave some mild criticism and offered a couple suggestions, and Viduus responded with his 'piss on us and nothing gets revamped' post. Now the thread's shit.

"mild criticism" is up for debate

[Astray]

I'll go ahead and agree that people bitching (like myself) up a storm isn't helpful. Yes, it's expected. No, not every release is shit. It's not at all appropriate, however, to go "WELL KEEP THIS UP AND WE WON'T EVER DO IT AGAIN FUCK YOU GUYS". I get the frustration but you just can't say you won't do something because people are being vocal. Even if it's not at all helpful.

[Allereli]

I get the frustration but you just can't say you won't do something because people are being vocal. Even if it's not at all helpful.

these are volunteers. I think they're going to work on whatever they want to work on when they're not given an explicit missive. When you guys are total fucktards to them, this is the response you're going to get.

[Astray]

these are volunteers. I think they're going to work on whatever they want to work on when they're not given an explicit missive. When you guys are total fucktards to them, this is the response you're going to get.

I have the decency(?) to keep my criticism on here. I've never gone to the officials with the intent to post.

[Allereli]

I have the decency(?) to keep my criticism on here. I've never gone to the officials with the intent to post.

That's nice of you :) Unfortunately there's nonstop posting by others on there just hammering their "points" home.

[Taernath]

"mild criticism" is up for debate

Nah.

That was tame, even for the officials.

[kcostell]

None of that was going on in the thread. KEITHOBAD gave some mild criticism and offered a couple suggestions, and Viduus responded with his 'piss on us and nothing gets revamped' post. Now the thread's shit.

I took the post more as a response to Keith's (and others') posts in general, with this particular thread just being the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Astray]

That's nice of you :) Unfortunately there's nonstop posting by others on there just hammering their "points" home.

I'm a noice fucking guy. I know, there are people who scream "I WILL QUIT" at the top of their lungs for daaaaaays. I know how much damage fuckers like that can do to the game. Those guys/gals/asshats need to be taken behind the shed and beat with a water hose.

[Silvean]

What you do is announce "I QUIT, FUCKS YOU" and then come back a couple weeks later like that embarrassing shit didn't happen.

[Androidpk]

None of that was going on in the thread. KEITHOBAD gave some mild criticism and offered a couple suggestions, and Viduus responded with his 'piss on us and nothing gets revamped' post. Now the thread's shit.


these are volunteers. I think they're going to work on whatever they want to work on when they're not given an explicit missive. When you guys are total fucktards to them, this is the response you're going to get.

This.


I took the post more as a response to Keith's posts in general, with this particular thread just being the straw that broke the camel's back.

And this.

Constructive criticism is one thing but some people have gone way overboard with the crying and vitriol.

[Tgo01]

these are volunteers.

If they are volunteers then they should give me the money SIMU pays them. Oh wait, that will never happen.

[Viekn]

>>Is there some crazy obscure use to 514 I'm not aware of as well? And 512? Is the entire wizard list just a set of spells that are designed to be used once in a character's lifetime? That would explain a lot.

Seriously? Who said this on the officials? What a dick. I mean if you want to offer constructive criticism, fine, but sheesh.


**Edit: Lol, hadn't even seen this response from Viduus before I posted
"You guys aren't doing yourself any favors by pissing on every single release. Constructive criticism is fine, usually welcomed. Whining just to whine isn't. Lately there's been a lot of whining and little to no worthwhile feedback."

[Latrinsorm]

They don't call it the golden rule because people give you gold bars or gold stars when you follow it, Terrence. That would be Confederate symbology and therefore racist.

[Fallen]

Huh, I honestly thought this wasn't that bad of an improvement. I rarely used the spell, but I can see a few use cases.

[Androidpk]

What you do is announce "I QUIT, FUCKS YOU" and then come back a couple weeks later like that embarrassing shit didn't happen.

In going to cancel all of my accounts!!!1

[elcidcannon]

>>Is there some crazy obscure use to 514 I'm not aware of as well? And 512? Is the entire wizard list just a set of spells that are designed to be used once in a character's lifetime? That would explain a lot.

Seriously? Who said this on the officials? What a dick. I mean if you want to offer constructive criticism, fine, but sheesh.


**Edit: Lol, hadn't even seen this response from Viduus before I posted
"You guys aren't doing yourself any favors by pissing on every single release. Constructive criticism is fine, usually welcomed. Whining just to whine isn't. Lately there's been a lot of whining and little to no worthwhile feedback."

This the "mild criticism" that Taernath was referring to.

[Allereli]

In going to cancel all of my accounts!!!1

all of your free ones!

[Taernath]

This the "mild criticism" that Taernath was referring to.

That IS mild. If you think it's not, welcome to the internet I guess.

[Astray]

Didn't someone have their family threatened or something?

[Fallen]

Didn't someone have their family threatened or something?

Someone was once threatened with losing should they cross the wrong person.

[Taernath]

"group friendly" is Simuspeak for "will affect non grouped players" right?

[Androidpk]

Yes

[Tgo01]

If they are volunteers then they should give me the money SIMU pays them. Oh wait, that will never happen.



Thread: HSN: ELR - Weapon Deflection (412) Updated

I like you, but you're dumb as fuck sometimes


What's the matter there, tough guy? Don't like me pointing out the FACT that GMs aren't volunteers and do indeed get paid? We can argue over how little they get paid, but let's stop this horseshit saying they are "volunteers."

[subzero]

What you do is announce "I QUIT, FUCKS YOU" and then come back a couple weeks later like that embarrassing shit didn't happen.

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