HSN: ELR - Thurfel's Ward (503) Updated

[Fallen]

Hi everybody! (== MECHANICS == Section is down there and today's non-mechanical release note is just awful.)

I feel like THE WATERING is starting to die down, because this is not a water lore update. It's pretty sad, but what can you do... Other lores need love too, you know! Today you all get an earth update, because 503 is a defensive spell and this is a defensive update! So, you may have noticed that we've already started spreading some Earth Lore around the defensive spells, and I don't see any reason to stop now! We've added a chance to flat out block and a chance to reflect, so let's just add a chance for some bonus DS in there too. I know. This wasn't really shenanigans... I'm sorry! Still friends? No? Well I told you up above in the parentheses that it was just awful. What do you want from me? I'm all alone now, aren't I. Yep, just talking to myself. Good times.
> Konacon hangs his head in shame.

== MECHANICS ==

Thurfel's Ward now provides its caster a (Ranks in Elemental Lore, Earth, Seed 10) percent chance to gain +20 DS for a single attack.

~ KonaconThis message was originally posted in Wizards, Major Elemental Circle. To discuss the above, follow the link below.

http://forums.play.net/forums/19/237/2655/view/532

[Fallen]

Thanks to the handy ;summation script

>;summ 10
--- Lich: summation_seed active.
*******************************
** Calculating Summonation, Seed 10
*******************************


*** +1 bonus at 10 ranks
*** +2 bonus at 21 ranks
*** +3 bonus at 33 ranks
*** +4 bonus at 46 ranks
*** +5 bonus at 60 ranks
*** +6 bonus at 75 ranks
*** +7 bonus at 91 ranks
*** +8 bonus at 108 ranks
*** +9 bonus at 126 ranks
*** +10 bonus at 145 ranks
*** +11 bonus at 165 ranks
*** +12 bonus at 186 ranks
*** +13 bonus at 208 ranks
*** +14 bonus at 231 ranks
*** +15 bonus at 255 ranks
*** +16 bonus at 280 ranks
*** +17 bonus at 306 ranks
*** +18 bonus at 333 ranks


** Calculated Summonation, Seed 10 **

[MrMortimur]

Except..the spell uses seed 10

Looks like 5-7% chance to activate is the most anyone would expect out of this. Not a lot but it was a free boost and part of the whole ELR package. Will look good in the lore chart

[Taernath]

905 provides a constant +16 DS @ 200 ranks

503 provides a 12% chance of +20 DS @ 200 ranks

It feels like some of these spells are being developed in a vacuum.

[Fallen]

Except..the spell uses seed 10

Looks like 5-7% chance to activate is the most anyone would expect out of this. Not a lot but it was a free boost and part of the whole ELR package. Will look good in the lore chart

I was only off by a factor of ten. Fixed.

[Fallen]

I don't really like % chance defensive abilities in terms of DS and TD. You can't rely on them, so you still have to get your baseline to the same point it was before.

[kcostell]

This doesn't seem like the kind of perk you plan/train for. Just an occasional nice surprise bonus.

[SashaFierce]

Same chances as 107 for the extra TD.

[Taernath]

I don't really like % chance defensive abilities in terms of DS and TD. You can't rely on them, so you still have to get your baseline to the same point it was before.

I would prefer these effects be either low chance/moderate bonus or moderate chance/low bonus, not low on both, otherwise there's the perception that they're not worth it. You can look at 414 as being an example of the former, and 905 an example of the latter.

[Fallen]

I would prefer these effects be either low chance/moderate bonus or moderate chance/low bonus, not both, otherwise there's the perception that they're not worth it. You can look at 414 as being an example of the former, and 905 an example of the latter.

I'd rather a seed 10 +1 DS per bonus than a seed 1 % per bonus chance, even with something like 414's +5% kicker at the beginning.

If you're relying on that % chance to negate an attack for your defense, you're going to get hit. Squares (like Rogues) can take it. Wizards can't.

[elcidcannon]

905 provides a constant +16 DS @ 200 ranks

503 provides a 12% chance of +20 DS @ 200 ranks

It feels like some of these spells are being developed in a vacuum.

905 = bolt DS
503 = all DS.

905 is also self-cast only.

[tyrant-201]

905 = bolt DS
503 = all DS.

905 is also self-cast only.

905 does also provide a small bonus to regular DS

[caelric]

What the bonus for 503 might possibly protect against is situations where your DS is normally good enough, but on occasion, the critter goes berserk, or froths (Troll Kings), etc... and you might get a little extra protection.

[Taernath]

905 is also self-cast only.

In addition to what tyrant said, I'd imagine the lore bonuses for 503 are self-cast only as well, which is what I was referring to.

[Astray]

You can't excuse shitty fucking ideas with a "I TOLD YOU BEFOREHAND IN MY RAMBLINGS THAT THIS IS GONNA SUCK COCK". Get that motherfucker away from the mechanics if they intend to fuck off with them. Fuck.

[Taernath]

I have introduced a mechanic in the HSN ELR posts based on a Seed 1 summation per post where Astray will go berserk. Enjoy!

[Astray]

I have introduced a mechanic in the HSN ELR posts based on a Seed 1 summation per post where Astray will go berserk. Enjoy!

You slut.

[Androidpk]

You can't excuse shitty fucking ideas with a "I TOLD YOU BEFOREHAND IN MY RAMBLINGS THAT THIS IS GONNA SUCK COCK". Get that motherfucker away from the mechanics if they intend to fuck off with them. Fuck.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-smoke-some-weed-35.png

[Jace Solo]

I think it's important to recognize Konacon for his, somewhat amusing, banter...you can tell this guy has played WoW.

[Fallen]

I think it's important to recognize Konacon for his, somewhat amusing, banter...you can tell this guy has played WoW.

With 100% honesty, I skip to the mechanics section of his posts every time. I am grateful he includes it.

[Taernath]

With 100% honesty, I skip to the mechanics section of his posts every time. I am grateful he includes it.

This.