HSN: 730 update

[Maerit]

Hi Everybody! It's time for Animate Dead (730) to get its big update!

First, the Maximum Animatable Level (MAL) for animates has been revised to: (700s ranks, capped at level) - 10 + (700s ranks over level / 10, max of 5) + (WIS Bonus / 5) + (Necromancy Lore Ranks / 10). The entire formula is capped at the caster's level + 15.

Second, the components of the spell are now optional! Feel free to simply PREP and CAST the spell to make it work. With this change the duration of the spell has changed to a flat 10 minutes, but if crimson salts are used the duration is 20 minutes + 6 seconds per level of troll blood used. Using SACRIFICE CHANNEL will refresh the duration to the original value.

Third, if a gem is used for the animation process it will boost the level of the animated creature by +1 for every 400 value of the gem used, maxed at the caster's MAL. This will include the appropriate combat stats for the creature.

Fourth, Sorcerers may now use ASSESS on a corpse to see if it is suitable for animation before casting at it.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST (My favorite part), animates have learned a new ability: Corpse Explosion! Simply TELL ANIMATE TO EXPLODE will cause your animate to... explode! The explosion is player friendly, and will affect a number of targets up to 2 + 1 per every 20 Necromancy Lore ranks. The explosions are elementally themed based on the caster's attunement, and elemental lore training in the element of the explosion will increase the damage of the explosion. The explosion uses the Standard Maneuver Roll and training in Necromancy Lore increases the chances for the explosion to hit its targets.

~ Konacon

This message was originally posted in Sorcerers, Sorcerer Spells. To discuss the above, follow the link below.

http://forums.play.net/forums/19/235/2628/view/3103

[Fallen]

Can someone test to see if you can tell your animate to explode when you're disabled? (Stunned vs webbed etc)

Also: Ithzir Scouts at max MAL swing every 4 seconds, or there abouts. Enjoy.

[Peppwyn]

Well that's some fun shit!

[Maerit]

>tell anim explode
You instruct your animate to explode.

Wisps of black smoke suddenly begin to arise from an animated rotting Citadel arbalester and tiny licks of flame flicker around his body. Swiftly growing into a raging inferno, he explodes in a violent eruption of fiery chunks of arbalester!
A rotting Citadel arbalester is caught in the explosion!
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to left leg. That hurts a bit.
A decaying Citadel guardsman is caught in the explosion!
... 15 points of damage!
Burst of flames to right hand fries palm. Ouch!
When the explosion subsides, there is nothing left of the Citadel arbalester.
You sense a loss of the connection between you and your animate.

[Tgo01]

So your animate can cause a lightning explosion? That's pretty awesome.

[Luntz]

Exploded a couple griffins in otf, fun times http://pastebin.com/2V8aFPPa

An animated war griffin abruptly ceases movement as it becomes encased in a thick layer of rock from the bottom up. As soon as the layer is completely formed, it explodes into a mass of boulders and gore!
An Ithzir scout is caught in the explosion!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow to temple drops the Ithzir scout in his tracks!
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir janissary is caught in the explosion!
... 45 points of damage!
Strike to temple cracks skull open!
The Ithzir janissary vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir adept is caught in the explosion!
... 40 points of damage!
Hard blow to temple scrambles brain!
The Ithzir adept vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The Ithzir adept no longer bristles with energy.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding an Ithzir adept suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir adept.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept becomes solid again.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept is caught in the explosion!
... 45 points of damage!
Every bone in the left arm shattered and scattered about!
When the explosion subsides, there is nothing left of the war griffin.
You sense a loss of the connection between you and your animate.

[Taernath]

Sorcerers for president.

[AestheticDeath]

Third, if a gem is used for the animation process it will boost the level of the animated creature by +1 for every 400 value of the gem used, maxed at the caster's MAL. This will include the appropriate combat stats for the creature.

http://forums.play.net/forums/19/235/2628/view/3103

Someone try making a really high level kobold with a 40k gem?

Actually I guess gems won't count that high. Would use base value, not including trade ranks and all that.

[Deathravin]

A 46,000 silver gem would turn a level 1 kobold into a level 115 kobold... Let's do that. That sounds fun.

[zhelas]

With all of this new development, I may have to bring zhelas back sooner than later.

[AestheticDeath]

Or a sea nymph that could put anything to sleep. Can you direct animates to use abilities on players?

[Deathravin]

AFAIK it's random. You can direct them to a target, but not tell them what to do with the target. But I've been gone for a while, maybe it's changed.

[Donquix]

Figured this was incoming after the 725 update. Great change, i might actually you know...cast 725 and 730 now.

[rolfard]

So my 100m soulstone wand does what now?

[Deathravin]

Using SACRIFICE CHANNEL will refresh the duration to the original value.

I wish Sacrifice Channel refresh was a flat amount based on critter level or something rather than 'back to the original value'. But what a great change. Hot Sorcerer Nights needs to continue forever.

[velderan]

I read that as the amount of time you originally animated the creature at, so if it happened to be around 20 minutes when you animated it, when you use sac channel, it restarts the timer on the 20 minute duration. Am I reading this wrong?

[Maerit]

TGO - you need to make a new script that records the beneficial spells critters cast on players into a database so Sorcerers can go "hunt spells".

I.E. Shan Rangers will cast Mobility on you, and Ethereal Mage Apprentices will cast Thufel's Ward, while Putrified Citadel Heralds will cast Spirit Shield.

Then we can just do a ;animate-spells 202 and it will list out all the critters known to cast that spell when using the command "tell animate magic"!

[Deathravin]

I saw some comments made around how often each spell is cast. I'm guessing somebody ran some historical queries to see how 'useful' each spell is and using that data figured out what needed to be changed to various spells to make them more 'successful' (more often used).

It would probably be pretty sad to see how infrequently some of these spells they did so much work on were used.

[Deathravin]

MAL is capped at +5 levels above the base, so no capped Kobolds i'm afraid. Still makes a big difference for critters, though. Especially melee based ones.

Aww, that's no fun

[Deathravin]

I read that as the amount of time you originally animated the creature at, so if it happened to be around 20 minutes when you animated it, when you use sac channel, it restarts the timer on the 20 minute duration. Am I reading this wrong?

No, that's correct. So if you use great salts, you could have a 30 minute duration and refresh it for 30 minutes with each sacrifice. Makes the 10 minute version less useful, but gives a strong usage for salts.

[Tgo01]

TGO - you need to make a new script that records the beneficial spells critters cast on players into a database so Sorcerers can go "hunt spells".

I.E. Shan Rangers will cast Mobility on you, and Ethereal Mage Apprentices will cast Thufel's Ward, while Putrified Citadel Heralds will cast Spirit Shield.

Then we can just do a ;animate-spells 202 and it will list out all the critters known to cast that spell when using the command "tell animate magic"!

Sounds pretty awesome. Can you make your animate cast at you or is it just random?

[Deathravin]

That you can do. I think it's Tell Animate Magic - and it casts one of its beneficial spells at you.

[Ceyrin]

So my 100m soulstone wand does what now?

It's possible you will need to look into the epeen extension adapter of your soulstone wand. It may require servicing.

[caelric]

Awesome change

[Deathravin]

I dunno...


I am anxiously awaiting to see the first unbelievably ginormous giant rat/kobold/hobgoblin/etc...

SOMEBODY MAKE THIS HAPPEN


~ Konacon

It sounds like you CAN make a level 115 Kobold.

Though I'm sure a 50k silver gem isn't easy to come by.

[Fallen]

I dunno...



It sounds like you CAN make a level 100 Kobold.

If they actually mean capped at your MAL as in a level 115 boost .... Holy fuck. That'll get nerfed.

[Deathravin]

I read it that the final level of the mob is maxed at the casters MAL - which is maxed at 115...

I'm not sure what would be the most OP animate... but I'm sure somebody will find something that is just insane.

[Maerit]

Sounds pretty awesome. Can you make your animate cast at you or is it just random?

Can't specify it, but they do cast more than one spell sometimes. The herald in the citadel cast both spirit strike (117) and spirit shield (202) at me. We just need a way to record what the critters will cast, so we can compile a list of spells out there that can be "hunted" to avoid having to find the spells.

[Fallen]

I read it that the final level of the mob is maxed at the casters MAL - which is maxed at 115...

I'm not sure what would be the most OP animate... but I'm sure somebody will find something that is just insane.

It gets ugly even animating an Ithzir Scout at +5 of its gen range. It swings every 4 seconds. I used to give them 4x flaring lances and watch them eat Constructs. I couldn't imagine one at an even higher level.

One has to imagine that even if they're +100 levels above the base, the attack speed would be capped at 1 attack every 3 seconds.

[Donquix]

Can't specify it, but they do cast more than one spell sometimes. The herald in the citadel cast both spirit strike (117) and spirit shield (202) at me. We just need a way to record what the critters will cast, so we can compile a list of spells out there that can be "hunted" to avoid having to find the spells.

I just got wall of force from mine (dogmatist in wyneb). That was fun, i was dicking around and let a hierophant spike me, then the dogmatist killed it (thanks animate bro), then a supplicant came in and mstriked but i still had WoF up. Sucker.

[Fallen]

What is the max gem value someone has managed? With Gem chisels and Bard purify I think we fairly regularly managed 12-15k gems. You can sometimes buy special gems at festivals that are worth a ton.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/List_of_gems

[Deathravin]

I think most of the benefits of having some enormously over-leveled low level animate would be removed by the fact that most lower level mobs have higher roundtimes and some even just skip turns to make it less insane for low level players. A level 115 kobold isn't going to do much to help you.

And you already have really good options for animates at higher levels. Combatants, Radicals, Defender... Defenders are kind of OP already because they don't get wounds just HP damage. What could possibly be more OP? You already have Bandits, orcs, ogres, and trolls that scale with level that are pretty OP. Maybe if there's some lower leveled swinging mob that has major elemental or spiritual beneficial spells that swings quickly...

The Wiki says Muscular Supplicants are great animates because they do nothing but swing. 3 second RTs are normal. For a 19,200 silver gem you get a level 115 Muscular Supplicant. That might be pretty awesome.

[Ceyrin]

It gets ugly even animating an Ithzir Scout at +5 of its gen range. It swings every 4 seconds. I used to give them 4x flaring lances and watch them eat Constructs. I couldn't imagine one at an even higher level.

One has to imagine that even if they're +100 levels above the base, the attack speed would be capped at 1 attack every 3 seconds.

My experience with this (limited as it is) is actually that creatures spawn with a base rt inherent to the creature, so giving them more levels via 730 may not change it.

Most grizzled weapon-users are in the 2-3sec rt territory. Grizzled dudes were some of my favorite animates.

Also, is it just me, or did the gem chisel become a potentially interesting reanimation tool?

[Fallen]

19k is about at the upper limit of what you could get a normal gem (with Purify and a chisel) unless i'm unaware of some extremely valuable ones. It's certainly possible, if expensive.

[Fallen]

My experience with this (limited as it is) is actually that creatures spawn with a base rt inherent to the creature, so giving them more levels via 730 may not change it.

Most grizzled weapon-users are in the 2-3sec rt territory. Grizzled dudes were some of my favorite animates.

Also, is it just me, or did the gem chisel become a potentially interesting reanimation tool?

Gem Chisels already were quite nice for Animate Dead because the old spell got a duration boost from the gem's value. This is obviously Way....way way better, though.

As for critters, you can actually find some faster than others in a hunting range. Ithzir Scouts are an example. They swing faster if they're at the top of their range than a standard (or substandard) one.

[Ceyrin]

That does stand to reason against the fact that grizzled/ancient creatures are "just" higher level versions of the critter they're based on.

If RT reduction CAN occur through major MAL adjustments, then it makes the spell very very flexible, I think.

[Fallen]

Has anyone seen a creature swing once every second, Grizzled/Ancient or otherwise? Maybe a Grimswarm during that task where you have to duel one?

[Candor]

So my 100m soulstone wand does what now?

Make silvers disappear?

[Ardwen]

Makes you hate the GMs making your class better like all the people that feel like they are getting the shaft during hot sorceror nights?

[Geijon Khyree]

Makes you hate the GMs making your class better like all the people that feel like they are getting the shaft during hot sorceror nights?

Zing!

[Roblar]

19k is about at the upper limit of what you could get a normal gem (with Purify and a chisel) unless i'm unaware of some extremely valuable ones. It's certainly possible, if expensive.

I'm not sure if slabs of silver or refined bars of gold count as gems mechanically for this sorceror spell, but the gemshops takes them.

Anyway, I've hit over 30K I think it was on the gold slabs when the coins turned to silver were 10K. Try piercing gaze on super heavy 100 lbish boxes and if the coins over 10K, call lightning it. Then have a cleric turn it to gold - assuming either of those metals work as gems for the spell.

I don't believe gold slabs could be purified when I tried awhile back. Not sure about the gem chisel but unlikely. Still a higher total than naturally occuring treasure finds with enhancements.

[Fallen]

I've honestly never tried using a slab for animating. Worth a shot.


Question: What happens when you put coins into a box and then use call lightning?

[Allereli]

I've honestly never tried using a slab for animating. Worth a shot.


Question: What happens when you put coins into a box and then use call lightning?

I don't think you can put coins IN anything usually. I also don't think you can use slabs for animate dead as they don't act like gems in the gemshop (cannot be sold via container)

[Roblar]

Rolfard, even in reps we get mixed up!


Sorry your wand lost value. - F

[Roblar]

as they don't act like gems in the gemshop (cannot be sold via container)

My slabs sell out from containers, but I don't make them via call lightning.

And the ability to make smelter ones into gold was nerfed so even if slabs from the item work better due to whatever flag allows them to sell from a bag, total value in silver state would be about par or less from top end purified gems.

[Allereli]

Rolfard, even in reps we get mixed up!

I usually talk to at least one of you every day, and I have to double check every single time.

[Luntz]

Having way too much fun in otf with adepts and heralds.

[Old Ta'Faendryl, Market Road]
The road moves north and south between broken mounds of dirt and stone that mark out a boundary along the edges of two wide plazas on either side of the road. Unusually straight cracks and an occasional gleam of grey peeping through the dirt indicates the presence of cracked granite blocks buried beneath the soil. You also see a flayed arm, a flayed arm, a dessicated arm, a gnarled arm, a decayed arm, a decayed arm, an Ithzir scout that appears stunned, a bloated arm, an Ithzir scout that appears stunned, an Ithzir herald that is lying down, an Ithzir seer that is lying down, an animated Ithzir adept, the Zaoloo disk, an Ithzir herald that is lying down, an Ithzir adept that is lying down and an Ithzir janissary that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
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A decayed arm quickly snatches at an Ithzir janissary, holding him down before retreating into the dirt!
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An animated Ithzir adept spreads his arms wide, then claps his hands together sharply, releasing a wave of crackling motes into the air!
By sheer luck, none of the quickly scattering motes come near you!

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir scout!
The Ithzir scout is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 50 points of damage!
Massive electrical shock to abdomen turns muscle tissue into a crispy bubbled mess. Not pretty.

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir scout!
The Ithzir scout is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 60 points of damage!
Powerful blast reduces the Ithzir scout to a smoldering pile of ash!
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir herald!
The Ithzir herald is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 35 points of damage!
Heavy jolt to chest causes solar plexus to explode. Remarkable display of spraying blood.
The Ithzir herald is stunned!

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir janissary!
The Ithzir janissary is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 60 points of damage!
Hideously bright electrical bolt sends right leg into another universe. Happy traveling.

>tell anim explode
You instruct your animate to explode.

An animated Ithzir adept begins to vibrate and seemingly shrink in size. It quickly becomes apparent that it isn't just a trick of the eye as the reduction in the adept's size rapidly accelerates. Soon he diminishes to nothing but a tiny black void that is sucking all the air out of the area!
An Ithzir scout is caught in the implosion!
... 45 points of damage!
Right leg explodes into thousands of pieces!
An Ithzir herald is caught in the implosion!
... 25 points of damage!
Ribs shatter and blood fills lungs!
The Ithzir herald is stunned!
An Ithzir seer is caught in the implosion!
... 55 points of damage!
Head is vaporized by decompression!
The Ithzir seer vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir herald is caught in the implosion!
... 35 points of damage!
Bones in arm crack and blood vessels burst!
The Ithzir herald vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir herald.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
When the implosion subsides, some silver coins and a zorchar war mattock, a twisted crystal-tipped staff are all that remain of the Ithzir adept.
You sense a loss of the connection between you and your animate.
>inc 435
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Major Elemental Wave...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir herald.
A wave of crimson ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
An Ithzir scout is buffeted by the crimson ethereal waves.
... 60 points of damage!
Flame engulfs back: an Ithzir scout flambe!
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir herald is buffeted by the crimson ethereal waves.
... 30 points of damage!
Extreme heat causes an Ithzir herald's left leg to expand and snap. That must hurt!
An Ithzir adept is buffeted by the crimson ethereal waves.
... 30 points of damage!
Flames cook an Ithzir adept's back. Looks about medium well.
The Ithzir adept is stunned!
An Ithzir janissary is buffeted by the crimson ethereal waves.
... 50 points of damage!
Neck completely incinerated; an Ithzir janissary's head drops to the ground and rolls to your feet!
The Ithzir janissary vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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[AestheticDeath]

What is the max gem value someone has managed? With Gem chisels and Bard purify I think we fairly regularly managed 12-15k gems. You can sometimes buy special gems at festivals that are worth a ton.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/List_of_gems

That wiki kinda sucks. I wish I hadn't deleted all my old gemstone files. I had a somewhat large excel file on gems from when I was playing with capped bard and chisel, and max trade/infuence elf in illistim.

I seem to recall basic gems like diamonds were 10k base once purified, but there were other gems that were 12k, possibly more. After you chisel them they can get pretty high, especially if you have one of the bugged ones that wasn't fixed and you could chisel it more than once. I know I had a ton of expensive*(numbers I quote are probably wrong) gems on my guy when i sold out to buckwheat. Not sure what he did with everything. Probably pawned all the gems, or at least non-orbs/mage rechargables. Had a ton of both of those as well.

[Maerit]

So, this is the reason we need a spell database for critters:

Now that I can just 730 whenever the hell I want, I went around RR and animated everything. Here's the useful spells I found just on the tiny island:

Ethereal Mage Apprentice - Thurfel's Ward (503)
Putrified Citadel Herald - Spirit Shield (202), Spirit Strike (117)
Hisskra Shaman - Resist Elements (602)
Greater Moor Wight - Haste (506)
Swamp Hag - Thurfel's Ward (503), Strength (509), Wizard's Shield (919)

Want a level 62 haste-bot? Go animate a Greater Moor Wight with a 10k+ gem (right?) and watch as it just spams haste and only haste on you!
Want to get 4 hours of Strength and Thurfel's for the low cost of 30 mana? Go find yourself a Swamp Hag and you're set.

Hella useful.

[Winter]

Want to get 4 hours of Strength and Thurfel's for the low cost of 30 mana? Go find yourself a Swamp Hag and you're set.

That's awesome, what's simu's track record on nerfing things like this?

[Deathravin]

This one I'm thinking will be nerfed before the end of this sentence... but I've been wrong before.

[Maerit]

That's awesome, what's simu's track record on nerfing things like this?

You could always do this before, but the problem was the cost of using the necromancy reagents. Now you can just go kill one, animate it, and spell yourself up!

[m444w]

That wiki kinda sucks. I wish I hadn't deleted all my old gemstone files. I had a somewhat large excel file on gems from when I was playing with capped bard and chisel, and max trade/infuence elf in illistim.

I seem to recall basic gems like diamonds were 10k base once purified, but there were other gems that were 12k, possibly more. After you chisel them they can get pretty high, especially if you have one of the bugged ones that wasn't fixed and you could chisel it more than once. I know I had a ton of expensive*(numbers I quote are probably wrong) gems on my guy when i sold out to buckwheat. Not sure what he did with everything. Probably pawned all the gems, or at least non-orbs/mage rechargables. Had a ton of both of those as well.


If someone thinks the data is valuable enough, I have a database of historical gem value data (I record all of my gem sales to it with the character's race, INF and trading skill at the time of sale), and can aggregate out a max, min, avg for each gem types based on it and publish it at a url like the critter data.

Fair warning, I don't hunt in EN, but I have grepped the logs of a few friends for their EN gems so it may have a few gaps left, but is mostly full.

[Fallen]

Rolfard, even in reps we get mixed up!

My reading comprehension has been shit lately. I need to work on that.

[Luntz]

My gem animated adept keepin shit real

An animated Ithzir adept raises one hand while uttering an unintelligible phrase. The strange words have an odd, mechanical sound, as if she was speaking into a teakettle. The adept suddenly sweeps her hand in an arc before her!

An Ithzir adept hesitates for a moment.
An Ithzir adept hesitates for a moment.
An Ithzir scout writhes in agony!
An Ithzir scout writhes in agony!
An Ithzir scout writhes in agony!
>
The aura about an Ithzir adept returns to normal.
>
An Ithzir janissary rises to her feet, her green eyes blazing!
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An Ithzir adept closes his eyes while incanting an alien phrase.
>sign wracking
You shudder as your life force is torn and reshaped!
You feel drained!
>inc 35
That is not something you can prepare.
>inc 435
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Major Elemental Wave...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir adept.
A wave of snapping and crackling ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
An Ithzir adept is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 30 points of damage!
Stunning arc of electricity fuses left leg at knee.
The Ithzir adept is stunned!
An Ithzir janissary is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 35 points of damage!
Spectacular arc of electricity enters one ear and comes out the other. Instant death.
The Ithzir janissary vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir adept is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves.
... 70 points of damage!
Horrifying bolt of electricity turns chest into a smoking pulp of flesh. No life left there.
The Ithzir adept vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The Ithzir adept no longer bristles with energy.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding an Ithzir adept suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir adept.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept becomes solid again.
An Ithzir scout is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 55 points of damage!
Powerful blast reduces the Ithzir scout to a smoldering pile of ash!
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir scout is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 45 points of damage!
Spectacular arc of electricity enters one ear and comes out the other. Instant death.
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
An Ithzir scout is buffeted by the snapping and crackling ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
... 45 points of damage!
Hideously bright electrical bolt sends left leg into another universe. Happy traveling.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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An animated Ithzir adept looks around blankly.
An animated Ithzir adept spreads her arms wide, then claps her hands together sharply, releasing a wave of crackling motes into the air!
By sheer luck, none of the quickly scattering motes come near you!

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir adept!
The Ithzir adept is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 75 points of damage!
Surprisingly large electrical arc destroys neck and moves up around head making a flashy halo. Rather classical death occurs.
The Ithzir adept vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The Ithzir adept no longer bristles with energy.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding an Ithzir adept suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir adept.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept becomes solid again.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.

One of the crackling motes heads right for an Ithzir scout!
The Ithzir scout is unable to avoid the flickering mote!
... 105 points of damage!
Horrifying bolt of electricity crystalizes abdominal area. Spiffy but unfortunately also quite deadly.
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.

>inc 709
You do not currently have a target.

[Ceyrin]

By sheer luck, none of the quickly scattering motes come near you!


I wonder if this messaging is flawed, or if your animate can 'mote' you.

[Fallen]

You'll see that every time but your animate cannot hit you.

[Malisai]

So if i understand this correctly.....even a sorcerer without necro lore can use this spell...well then, that fucking rocks.

[subzero]

730 sounds pretty badass now.

[Archigeek]

Someone try making a really high level kobold with a 40k gem?

Actually I guess gems won't count that high. Would use base value, not including trade ranks and all that.

Does this mean that my gems that are too valuable for the gemshop to take are actually worth something now?

[Fallen]

Best to throw them into a shop and/or open auction now and catch the market of sorcerers wanting to play with the new features.

[Archigeek]

19k is about at the upper limit of what you could get a normal gem (with Purify and a chisel) unless i'm unaware of some extremely valuable ones. It's certainly possible, if expensive.

"a shard of dragonmist crystal" is the most valuable gem in Gemstone.

[Archigeek]

There's a block of 20 for sale in my thread of gems for sale (see below). I won't even raise the price to gouge you and spoil your new found fun. It's possible a few of them have been sung to, but none have been chiseled. I'll put some more up for sale in Aalish's shop in Icemule as singles.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?76682-Bulk-diamonds-emeralds-and-assorted-rift-gems

Edit: I've appraised half a dozen of them that are going in my shop and the values aren't huge without being sung to, but Buckwheet and I did some experimenting (mostly Buck really, I just supplied the gems) and determined that with purification and a chisel he could get some of them up over 30k.

[AestheticDeath]

Does this mean that my gems that are too valuable for the gemshop to take are actually worth something now?

I don't recall having trouble selling any of the gems I purified/chiseled. Though I may have purposely saved most of the ones that were worth that much. And are you having trouble just with someone using close to 30% trade value, or just a reg character?

[Archigeek]

I don't recall having trouble selling any of the gems I purified/chiseled. Though I may have purposely saved most of the ones that were worth that much. And are you having trouble just with someone using close to 30% trade value, or just a reg character?

Actually we just went to a town with an unfavorable trade deal or used a different character to sell them. I forget which method worked. I was just impressed that he could get gem values up over 30k.

[AestheticDeath]

Yeah, I had fun with a chisel before I decided purifying and chiseling everything was... crazy time consuming and boring. But before I reported about the bug on mine, I think I got a gem to 70k or something, chiseling it multiple times.

[Maerit]

Does anyone know of any critters that use Rapid Fire?

[Maerit]

* Animate Dead (730) has been updated so that the maximum animatable level is now caster's level + 20.
* Due to the significantly increased accessibility of the spell, we've had to lower the duration of enhancement spells cast by animates. The duration is limited to the remaining duration of the animate itself.
* Soulstone wands now: (1) increase the caster's MAL by 5 (able to go above the normal cap), (2) boost the animate's level by 10 (still stacks with a gem), and (3) when POINTed at an animate, will renew its duration.
* Wyrewood rattles now grant a sizeable bonus (~25%) when held and summoning a demon (stacks with a runestone).

[Maerit]

They buffed and nerfed 730 in the same fix. Now when you animate something, and use the MAGIC command you will get 10 minute buffs that will not stack.

No more hunting animates for spell-ups... :cry:

[caelric]

To be fair, getting big spells ups from animates was a relatively new thing.

[Maerit]

To be fair, getting big spells ups from animates was a relatively new thing.

To be doubly fair - I hunted every magical creature that was within my level range (70 and down), and the best I could get was:

503, 618, 602, 202, and there was one creature in RR that did 509. To spend 63 mana (711 x3 + 730) to get these spells and the time it took to hunt them down and get them to cast the spells seemed like a fair trade-off. I think the removal of this feature is sorta unnecessary.

Everything else that the Animates cast were spells I already knew, or spells that had very short durations (i.e. 506, 919, 117 and there was one that was casting 140). So those haven't changed. Most higher level mages just spammed wizard's shield on you non-stop.

I had similar results when animating Grim in the warcamps.

[Fallen]

One other update to Animate Dead (730): you may now re-animate a player once the first animation ends (due to time running out, being disconnected, etc).

GameMaster Estild

Convenient.

[Fallen]

Troll's blood for Animate Dead (730) has been updated such that Grimswarm trolls of any level will contribute to the animate's duration (no longer capped at level 63). In addition, every level of the troll that is used will now increase the animate's duration by 15 seconds (formerly 6) per. As such, an animate can now last up to 45 minutes when using level 100 troll's blood.

GameMaster Estild

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