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time4fun
07-13-2015, 01:25 PM
There're a lot of posts here lately on different builds. So let's get a compilation of the different builds out there so newbies can see what's more or less popular.

Me- OHB/Shield No one weapon base, I use hammers, maces, and stars. Also use tower shields. One is 7x spiked with grapple flares, one is 5x spiked and sanctified (for guiding light), and one is 4x fusion with spikes (one of my weapons requires some hefty stat boosts to use)

Astray
07-13-2015, 01:26 PM
I used a Falchion and Shield. Paladins are epic with shields.

mgoddess
07-13-2015, 01:31 PM
Waraxe+shield. Waraxe is a plain 4x rolaren, fully bonded. Shield is an 8x medium shield, but working on getting a tower shield up to a decent enchant, and will start using that once it's there.

Buckwheet
07-13-2015, 01:40 PM
Thrown axe or javelin and a plain 7x fusion shield.

Shaps
07-13-2015, 01:42 PM
Lance and if/when reach 100, will also learn OHE/THW/Shield because of a nice bastard sword I have.

Taernath
07-13-2015, 01:44 PM
OHE/tower shield

Ltlprprincess
07-13-2015, 01:48 PM
Currently using OHB, warhammer base because having a skull-crusher as a noun is fucking epic, and a tower shield. Since my paladin is obsessed with rolaren, everything I get for her is in that material. Right now I have a project piece that's going to be be hitting 8x here soon, and a wonderful shield bracer I had made, will have to work on enchanting that up at some point, too. And Rolaren full plate I'm working towards 7xing as well.

rushblitz
07-13-2015, 02:11 PM
4x greatshield, 4x superior spikestar

loxe
07-13-2015, 02:12 PM
Ohe ..8x blessable ice age broadsword fully bonded and t5 ensorcelled and guiding light flares. And tower shield... 5x sancted, spiked, t5 ensorcelled and guiding light flares and wear 5x MCP full plate.

dcorbin24
07-13-2015, 02:17 PM
OHB / Shield : 8x perfect morningstar and a 5x sancted tower shield

kutter
07-13-2015, 02:28 PM
Where is the love for poles? 7x T3 Naginata and in the next 10 trains or so will switch to my sanctified lance with vacuum flares and maybe a perfect lance if I ever get around to forging it.

Androidpk
07-13-2015, 03:57 PM
Battle axe with plasma flares.

Astray
07-13-2015, 04:00 PM
I see why people go for heavier stuff but like... Paladins are made for shields, bros. Why you no use them?

Androidpk
07-13-2015, 04:03 PM
Offense > defense.

Whirlin
07-13-2015, 04:18 PM
I see why people go for heavier stuff but like... Paladins are made for shields, bros. Why you no use them?
At the time paladins were released, there were no SMANs, and paladin spells were different than they were today.

While SMANs added a bonus to shield use for paladins, the 1H killing speed is so terrible by comparison, that many paladins opted to stick with 2H for faster killing. I mean hey, they're wearing plate anyway.

The major spells to the class came down to the exclusive nature of Divine shield and Zealot, many paladins decided to go the purely offensive route, relying on incredibly heavy armor to protect them.

The spells overhaul also improved the relative strength of 1Hs by providing damage weighting, and even more flares to their builds relative to pre-overhaul. Furthermore, their bonus taunting type spell assisted them further in group mechanics to act as a better tank within the group... if they decide to go the shield route.

Realistically, both builds are completely viable, it comes down to whether or not you want to be a prot or ret pally while you play. You have good opportunity to DPS or tank... but you're pretty much only gonna be able to be one of those builds effectively. Until you're super post capped and can go Katana/Shield build

Shaps
07-13-2015, 04:33 PM
I can't believe you just used the term "prot or ret pally". Shame! Shame! Shame!

Androidpk
07-13-2015, 04:48 PM
If Whirlin fits it sits.

Soulance
07-13-2015, 05:34 PM
Working up a 7x perfect handaxe and 5x spiked tower shield.

Astray
07-13-2015, 05:37 PM
At the time paladins were released, there were no SMANs, and paladin spells were different than they were today.

While SMANs added a bonus to shield use for paladins, the 1H killing speed is so terrible by comparison, that many paladins opted to stick with 2H for faster killing. I mean hey, they're wearing plate anyway.

The major spells to the class came down to the exclusive nature of Divine shield and Zealot, many paladins decided to go the purely offensive route, relying on incredibly heavy armor to protect them.

The spells overhaul also improved the relative strength of 1Hs by providing damage weighting, and even more flares to their builds relative to pre-overhaul. Furthermore, their bonus taunting type spell assisted them further in group mechanics to act as a better tank within the group... if they decide to go the shield route.

Realistically, both builds are completely viable, it comes down to whether or not you want to be a prot or ret pally while you play. You have good opportunity to DPS or tank... but you're pretty much only gonna be able to be one of those builds effectively. Until you're super post capped and can go Katana/Shield build

Ah.

time4fun
07-13-2015, 07:54 PM
I'm surprised by how many Paladins are using OHBs (I totally assumed most people were using THW). You don't really see that in other professions as much. Looks like the prevailing wisdom that there aren't any OHB users out there is wrong!

Vusit
07-13-2015, 09:11 PM
THW: perfect 7x maul, need to get it enscrolled and bonded to it.

WRoss
07-13-2015, 09:12 PM
Currently using a 5x perfect greatsword on my halfling paladin because having a halfling swinging a greatsword is hilarious to me. I used to play a 13m+ exp paladin and tried multiple builds. Polearm was probably my favorite and TWC would have been if it wasn't so damn TP intensive.

kutter
07-13-2015, 09:22 PM
Currently using a 5x perfect greatsword on my halfling paladin because having a halfling swinging a greatsword is hilarious to me. I used to play a 13m+ exp paladin and tried multiple builds. Polearm was probably my favorite and TWC would have been if it wasn't so damn TP intensive.

I had a gnome sorcerer for his first 30 days swing a claidhmore and he kept it in his coat, I always chuckled at the thought of that. My rogue is TWC and I looked hard at that with twin blunts for my paladin, but as you pointed out, it means you have to compromise in too many other things to do it. Which is sad since I have some neat hammers I found in lockers just collecting dust, I know it is not the uber blunt but I just like them.

Androidpk
07-13-2015, 09:33 PM
Currently using a 5x perfect greatsword on my halfling paladin because having a halfling swinging a greatsword is hilarious to me. I used to play a 13m+ exp paladin and tried multiple builds. Polearm was probably my favorite and TWC would have been if it wasn't so damn TP intensive.

The MCW flamberge is shown as being 7 feet long. Hilarious to picture a gnome or halfling swinging it. Depressing to think they can naturally swing it faster than a giantman. I've always thought larger weapons should use strength to determine RT and agi/dex for the smaller weapons.

Vorpodu
07-14-2015, 10:42 AM
It makes sense if you think about it like this: huge, lumbering men are usually viewed as being slow but powerful.

Taernath
07-14-2015, 11:20 AM
The MCW flamberge is shown as being 7 feet long. Hilarious to picture a gnome or halfling swinging it. Depressing to think they can naturally swing it faster than a giantman. I've always thought larger weapons should use strength to determine RT and agi/dex for the smaller weapons.

Yeah. The best systems use different stats for different weapons, like rapiers, daggers and sometimes spears use DEX while more traditional hacking weapons use STR. Sometimes they just take the higher of the two stats. I'd like to see something similar in this game but can you imagine the rage from all those swinging halflings and gnomes?

Erous
07-14-2015, 11:58 AM
I'm swinging an unlocked void flaring morning star right now on my 22 pally with a simple tower shield. I wanted to go this route because it seemed I could dump more points into CMANS and MoC than I would normally in a THW build, but it seems I may be able to drop lores to swap back to either a pole or maul, have both in the locker.

I also wanted to wait until I was wearing chain until I picked up the 2 hander again, which now that I'm able to I may look at a fixskill

Ardwen
07-14-2015, 06:22 PM
damned conformists! My paladin uses an ebow, of course he's all of like 14 and will never level again in all likelyhood

Androidpk
07-14-2015, 06:58 PM
It makes sense if you think about it like this: huge, lumbering men are usually viewed as being slow but powerful.

It makes no sense that a low strength race can swing a large and heavy weapon quickly.

Ardwen
07-14-2015, 07:00 PM
gnomes and halflings shouldnt be able to effectively swing them at all

Viekn
07-14-2015, 07:51 PM
gnomes and halflings shouldnt be able to effectively swing them at all

Agreed. Gradually introduce the change and offer free fixskills to anyone effected. I'm sure a lot will miss the extra damage they could do with a heavier weapon, but it seems rather silly that a Halfling could effectively wield a 7 foot weapon.

Whirlin
07-14-2015, 09:26 PM
Hey... Curb your expectations.

Do you really want to play a game where a greatsword is a greatsword to a giantman, and a super claid to a halfling? Where double leathers for a gnome are no more than a glove to a half-krolvin? I mean shit... imagine how much resale value all of your magical shineys would be if they became size locked relative to your race's size. Think about the additional variation and pain in the assness it would be when trying to forge something.

I mean shit... I spent my day blowing heads off specters and plants in a labrynth under an ogre and viper infested forest... with my voice. I spend hours single handedly invading an old city and commit genocide against the resident jannissaries, seers, adepts, heralds, and their constructs and griffons. Occasionally, I'll bend the fabric of reality, turn back time, have precognition of the future, just to dodge an attack that would have otherwise scuffed my leather, but not penetrated the constantly shifting stoneskin that I wear under my armor that doesn't impede any movements at all.

But damn... that greatsword that a giantman swings can't be the same greatsword a halfling swings... That's where the line is drawn... come on....

Viekn
07-14-2015, 09:41 PM
Hey... Curb your expectations.

Do you really want to play a game where a greatsword is a greatsword to a giantman, and a super claid to a halfling? Where double leathers for a gnome are no more than a glove to a half-krolvin? I mean shit... imagine how much resale value all of your magical shineys would be if they became size locked relative to your race's size. Think about the additional variation and pain in the assness it would be when trying to forge something.

I mean shit... I spent my day blowing heads off specters and plants in a labrynth under an ogre and viper infested forest... with my voice. I spend hours single handedly invading an old city and commit genocide against the resident jannissaries, seers, adepts, heralds, and their constructs and griffons. Occasionally, I'll bend the fabric of reality, turn back time, have precognition of the future, just to dodge an attack that would have otherwise scuffed my leather, but not penetrated the constantly shifting stoneskin that I wear under my armor that doesn't impede any movements at all.

But damn... that greatsword that a giantman swings can't be the same greatsword a halfling swings... That's where the line is drawn... come on....

Yeah, I guess when you put it that way, there's just a bit too much IG that defies logic to fix just one thing.

Warriorbird
07-14-2015, 09:42 PM
Applies here too.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb4iosD8dW1rp9acvo1_400.gif

My paladin uses polearms.

Back
07-14-2015, 09:54 PM
8x perfect handaxe with a bane and a 5x large eonake shield. 1x MOC at cap with 140 and 1640.

Malisai
07-14-2015, 10:21 PM
my pally uses a sanctified halberd. Eventually he will use a sancted lance.

time4fun
07-15-2015, 07:39 PM
So for those of you who went OHB vs OHE- was it because of 1605? We were hypothesizing about this on lnet the other day.

Androidpk
07-15-2015, 08:03 PM
Hey... Curb your expectations.

Do you really want to play a game where a greatsword is a greatsword to a giantman, and a super claid to a halfling? Where double leathers for a gnome are no more than a glove to a half-krolvin? I mean shit... imagine how much resale value all of your magical shineys would be if they became size locked relative to your race's size. Think about the additional variation and pain in the assness it would be when trying to forge something.

I mean shit... I spent my day blowing heads off specters and plants in a labrynth under an ogre and viper infested forest... with my voice. I spend hours single handedly invading an old city and commit genocide against the resident jannissaries, seers, adepts, heralds, and their constructs and griffons. Occasionally, I'll bend the fabric of reality, turn back time, have precognition of the future, just to dodge an attack that would have otherwise scuffed my leather, but not penetrated the constantly shifting stoneskin that I wear under my armor that doesn't impede any movements at all.

But damn... that greatsword that a giantman swings can't be the same greatsword a halfling swings... That's where the line is drawn... come on....


In that case why have any rules? Don't be silly.

mgoddess
07-15-2015, 08:37 PM
So for those of you who went OHB vs OHE- was it because of 1605? We were hypothesizing about this on lnet the other day.

Not for me... OHE because that's the sort of weapon I was already using when I converted my warrior, and she's fairly attached to her rolaren weapon(s).

Taernath
07-15-2015, 08:53 PM
I would have gone with blunt for my paladin mainly for RP, but at the time it was hard finding a decent one and all I had were a few stars from when my GS3 cleric swung.

Is puncture resistance/immunity still A Thing? Blunts also had a lot of puncture issues.