HSN: 703 update

[Allereli]

I like to party too, so let's update 703!

Corrupt Essence (703) has been updated to have an open cast version which will affect multiple targets. The number of additional targets is calculated by using the caster's Spirit and Elemental Mana Controls (with the higher of the two counting all ranks and the lesser counting half ranks) / 20.

Ixix

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[Fallen]

Now that is fucking awesome. Between this and the 702 change mana controls are looking very nice for sorcerers.

[caelric]

Now that is fucking awesome. Between this and the 702 change mana controls are looking very nice for sorcerers.

Agreed. Multi target/open cast 703 is pretty awesome. 100/100 ranks of EMC/SMC would give 7 total targets, which is enough, except for large invasions.

Time to build up those mana controls!

[Allereli]

I hope this happens for 708, too.

[mgoddess]

Damn, nice update!

[subzero]

:beer:

[Fallen]

I would assume this is character friendly, but could someone test? It'd be interesting if it targets PCs not joined to you.

[Riltus]

I would assume this is character friendly, but could someone test? It'd be interesting if it targets PCs not joined to you.

Non-targeted CAST is group friendly only.

Mark

[Astray]

Now that is fucking awesome. Between this and the 702 change mana controls are looking very nice for sorcerers.

Prepping for Savants, no doubt.

[Kronius]

I would assume this is character friendly, but could someone test? It'd be interesting if it targets PCs not joined to you.

It does, as I got a nice chunk taken out of my leg by Hoy's hedgehog when cast at the Statue on Teras.

Meaning, be careful in invasions if you aren't grouped up. You'll piss A LOT of people off because it still has the TD pushdown aspect.

[Whirlin]

Does the AoE still result in a lockout of spells for those hit?

Because that's nothing but an awesome buff.

[Kronius]

Unless I read it wrong, it's just the same but AoE, meaning 15 seconds of non-casting for a successful ward.

Probably incredibly awesome in invasions, and swarms, and I plan on using it a lot.

[Astray]

Someone go try this in a Grim camp.

[Riltus]

Unless I read it wrong, it's just the same but AoE, meaning 15 seconds of non-casting for a successful ward.

Probably incredibly awesome in invasions, and swarms, and I plan on using it a lot.

Correct.

Targets can prep but not cast while under the effects of 703. Attempting to cast will incur 3 sec RT.

Open cast result:

Sorcerer gestures.
CS: +244 - TD: -68 + CvA: +25 + d100: +18 == +355
Warding failed!
A giant rat is suddenly surrounded by a blood red haze.
CS: +244 - TD: -68 + CvA: +25 + d100: +98 == +435
Warding failed!
A giant rat is suddenly surrounded by a blood red haze.
CS: +244 - TD: +11 + CvA: +20 + d100: +73 - -5 == +331
Warding failed!
You feel weakened as a blood red haze forms around you.

>pre 702
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Mana Disruption...
Your spell is ready.
>cast rat
You gesture at a giant rat.
As you focus on your magic, your vision swims with a swirling haze of crimson. A sharp, blinding pain explodes outward from your mind and radiates in throbbing waves across your skin, causing you to falter.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Mark

[Allereli]

Someone go try this in a Grim camp.

When someone does test it: does it affect the shroud?

[Kronius]

When someone does test it: does it affect the shroud?

If it doesn't now, it will shortly.

[Whirlin]

If it doesn't now, it will shortly.
Well, 1001: Holding song. Also expands to hit multiple targets, has a single target initial cast, etc, etc. Mechanically incredibly similar.

According to what I can find online regarding warcamps and the shroud, 1001 does not interact with the shroud. But take that for what you will.

[Donquix]

damn...really nice. I only hunt my sorc for necro juice and since i'd favor consistency over speed, I always 703 the casters it just helps cut down on BS. Really nice change.

[Malisai]

Just in case folks missed it, Estild posted this:

Your spell is ready.
You gesture at Ixix.
You direct a dull grey beam at Ixix!
AS: +1125 vs DS: -27 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +45 = +1237
... and hit for 667 points of damage!
Half of midsection reduced to a fine red mist! Now unsupported, half-vaporized organs topple out onto the ground!
What a mess!
Ixix twitches and dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Im assuming this choice to "attack" ixix was not random, given how much this looks like a bolt 705.

[Androidpk]

Just in case folks missed it, Estild posted this:

Your spell is ready.
You gesture at Ixix.
You direct a dull grey beam at Ixix!
AS: +1125 vs DS: -27 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +45 = +1237
... and hit for 667 points of damage!
Half of midsection reduced to a fine red mist! Now unsupported, half-vaporized organs topple out onto the ground!
What a mess!
Ixix twitches and dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Im assuming this choice to "attack" ixix was not random, given how much this looks like a bolt 705.

What spell is that?

[rolfard]

dull grey beam is disintegrate 705

[Androidpk]

That isn't 705 though.

[Malisai]

the dull grey beam is similar to 705, however what estild showed was a bolt spell, so im taking that as a hint. More so since they didnt show the spell prep.

[Peppwyn]

Bolt without Rapid Fire is bleh.

[Riltus]

Your spell is ready.
You gesture at Ixix.
You direct a dull grey beam at Ixix!
AS: +1125 vs DS: -27 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +45 = +1237
... and hit for 667 points of damage!
Half of midsection reduced to a fine red mist! Now unsupported, half-vaporized organs topple out onto the ground!
What a mess!
Ixix twitches and dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


I set up a little contest on the officials but I think I made it too easy.


trunc 2/3 * 1000 +1 - half a midsection / Big stick - (-27) + 40 +45 - 100 and ditch the 0659

"Look! The paper isn't red. Don't you think that's odd?"


Mark

[Whirlin]

Damnit... was all set to continue training in EMC/SMC... and now this... urgh... way to force choices!

[Riltus]

Oh, I forgot to mention that there's a cookie for the winner and a mystery bonus prize (shipping and handling not included). Something even Whirlin wants.

Mark

[Riltus]

Hmm! What does Whirlin want even more than his precious?

Mark

[Androidpk]

A mail order Russian wife?

[Riltus]

A mail order Russian wife?

Does the wife have to be a female? Vasily, have you packed yet?

Mark

[Whirlin]

I figured out everything except your red comment

[rolfard]

what??? that was the easy part. there's literally blood everywhere.

[Riltus]

I figured out everything except your red comment

And I'm wealthy except for no money.

Mark

[Riltus]

what??? that was the easy part. there's literally blood everywhere.

Very shrewd deduction, Sherlock. Very shrewd...but very wrong.

Mark

[rolfard]

Oh was it a litmus paper joke then?

[Whirlin]

Oh was it a litmus paper joke then?
I don't think it's that basic

[Riltus]

Oh was it a litmus paper joke then?

Have you considered that it might be a Pravda reference?

Mark

[Whirlin]

Kind of... The spell in question is Minor Acid, 904. The commentary regarding red is referencing

The spell itself has a .525 DF, which is unique to all bolt spells, and shown in the log. Furthermore, the .525 DF is only against cloth, which mirrors the AvD.

Of course, this version is using distintigration messaging and critical tables.

That's why it's odd... it's minor acid, but the litnus paper isn't turning red, saying that it's not acid... So, it looks like acid, seems like acid, but it's not acid!

[Androidpk]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread anymore.

[Viekn]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread anymore.

I agree. This is way above my nerd IQ.

[Riltus]

Kind of... The spell in question is Minor Acid, 904. The commentary regarding red is referencing

The spell itself has a .525 DF, which is unique to all bolt spells, and shown in the log. Furthermore, the .525 DF is only against cloth, which mirrors the AvD.

Of course, this version is using distintigration messaging and critical tables.

That's why it's odd... it's minor acid, but the litnus paper isn't turning red, saying that it's not acid... So, it looks like acid, seems like acid, but it's not acid!

Congratulations! Well done! Yes, that's the exact reference. Damn, Rolfard was on the right track but hadn't gotten the minor acid connection. Good job to you both.

I won't sign my posts with my name anymore because it's annoying someone. And, the last thing I want is to cause unnecessary aggravation.

Anonymous

P.S. You're probably curious about the mystery prize. Just some premium points.

[caelric]

I'm perfectly fine with a bolt version of 705 using the minor acid DF and AvD, but with disintegration crits. As long as it still costs 5 mana (or less). It would make a sorc who primarily relies on bolts a viable character.

[Fallen]

HSN 2015 has been quite amazing for sorcerers. Big props to the GMs for the solid updates.

[Akaylas]

So I didn't read anything about a downside for using open-cast 703. Is there any reason to single target with it now?

[Astray]

So I didn't read anything about a downside for using open-cast 703. Is there any reason to single target with it now?

Uh... not un-grouped friendly.

[Fallen]

So I didn't read anything about a downside for using open-cast 703. Is there any reason to single target with it now?

Mana. I imagine the cost increases by 3 for each target.

[nindon]

Uh... not un-grouped friendly.

Exactly. The mana cost is 3, regardless of the number of targets. With the area version, you get the same TD pushdown that you get with the targeted version. The reason to use the area version sparingly is that is not player friendly.

[Fallen]

Oh weird. Fantastic update to that spell for sure.