Charlie Daniels speaks his mind

[CrystalTears]

Well since we're posting bullshit threads, I figured I'd join the frey. :D

This was found here (http://www.minibite.com/america/openletter.htm).

OK - Let's just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid, unrealistic children had your way and the U.S.A. didn't go into Iraq.

Let's say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what we've done for world peace.

Let's say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the National Guard
on hand to help out with floods and fires.

Let's say that we close down our military bases all over the world and bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade sanctions against everybody.

I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world where everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the United States of America, the cause of all the world's trouble would have disbanded it's horrible military and certainly all the other countries of the world would follow suit.

After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the mean old U.S.A.

Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps. Get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning.

Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?

Barbra Streisand's fanatical and hateful rankings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing.

You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into the real world. You'd be surprised at the hostility you would find out here.

Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long distance truck driver that you don't think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong.

Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the United States
has no right to defend itself.

Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an anti-war rally and see what the folks down there think about you.

You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about.

Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little, "fact finding trip" to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war.

You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of choice you say?

Well I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own.

If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.

You scoff at our military whose boots you're not even worthy to shine.

They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in luxury.

The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.

America is in imminent danger.
You're either for her or against her.
There is no middle ground.

I think we all know where you stand.
What do you think?

God Bless America!

-Charlie Daniels

[TheRoseLady]

Well I think I'll call Toby Keith and ask him to take his boot and shove it up someone's ass.

[Tsa`ah]

Spoken like a true confederate flag waving red neck.

[xtc]

Asking Charlie Daniels about politics is liking asking Forrest Gump about Quantum physics.

[DeV]

Out of all 3 threads this one definitely reeks of shit piled so high you can wipe your nose with it.

[Trinitis]

Maybe..but the man sure can play the fuckin fiddle!

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by DarkelfVold
Out of all 3 threads this one definitely reeks of shit piled so high you can wipe your nose with it.

That's how I basically feel about this election. :moon2:

[Jorddyn]

That is certainly a well thought out, unbiased, noninflammatory, and intelligent essay.

Jorddyn, started smoking crack today

[Latrinsorm]

The Charlie Daniels Band is awesome.
Like most artists, Charlie Daniels would be better off keeping his mouth shut when he's not singing.

[Ilvane]

:lol: Charlie Daniels..I'm sure he's an admirer of the great Jack Daniels from the sound of that essay.

:-P

-A

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Jorddyn
That is certainly a well thought out, unbiased, noninflammatory, and intelligent essay.

Jorddyn, started smoking crack today

I doubt his intention was to post an unbiased and non-inflammatory essay. It's no worse than half the bullshit liberal stuff that is posted here each and every day.

Thanks for sharing CT. We'll have the last laugh come November 3rd.

[Carl Spackler]

Will it be Nov. 3 if Bush wins? Or will we see a repeat of Al Gore, crying about votes after conceding?

[Nieninque]

Thats the kind of viewpoint that makes non-Americans hate Americans

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Carl Spackler
Will it be Nov. 3 if Bush wins? Or will we see a repeat of Al Gore, crying about votes after conceding?

Well they do have some 4000 lawyers already for the fight.. but I think the election will be settled by the 3rd with one clear cut victor.

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Carl Spackler
Will it be Nov. 3 if Bush wins? Or will we see a repeat of Al Gore, crying about votes after conceding?

Well they do have some 4000 lawyers already for the fight.. but I think the election will be settled by the 3rd with one clear cut victor.

Let's hope so. As much as it pains me to say, I would rather see Bush elected flat out than have a repeat of last time.

Of course, I'd rather have Kerry elected flat out than either of those. :D

Jorddyn

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Carl Spackler
Will it be Nov. 3 if Bush wins? Or will we see a repeat of Al Gore, crying about votes after conceding?

Well they do have some 4000 lawyers already for the fight.. but I think the election will be settled by the 3rd with one clear cut victor.

LOL, you sound like Fox News.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by TheRoseLady

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Carl Spackler
Will it be Nov. 3 if Bush wins? Or will we see a repeat of Al Gore, crying about votes after conceding?

Well they do have some 4000 lawyers already for the fight.. but I think the election will be settled by the 3rd with one clear cut victor.

LOL, you sound like Fox News.

Since I rarely watch Fox News.. I highly doubt it's where I heard the story.

[Straight-up]

I may not agree with him on all points but he certainly makes some valid ones. We ARE too pampered, we do have too much of a sense of entitlement, we do take our freedom and our lifestyle for granted, and human nature is NOT ready for peace and trying to be pacifistic and disarming ourselves is insane. It is not just "rednecks" and arch conservatives who feel this way either. I am an intelligent, educated, registered democrat and quite liberal in my views and there is no way in hell I would vote for John Kerry. I don't particularly like Bush either, but IMO he is certainly the lesser of two evils.



Straight

[Slider]

Lemme get this straight now, Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, etc. all of the liberal actors/performers get high acclaim for their "well informed, unbiased" veiws, and statements about what THEY think is right for the U.S. but ol' Charlie speaks his mind, and he's an "confederate flag-waving redneck" who obviously "would be better off keeping his mouth shut" to qoute 2 of you.

Just out of curiosity, tell me, would either of these statements have been made if he had come out and given the same "well thought out, unbiased, noninflammatory, and intelligent essay" that just happened to blast Bush, like the rest of them do? Or would that have been yet another example of someone exercising their right to free speech in America? (as long as it's a Liberal opinion that is).

Yet another wonderfull example of how if you are a Liberal, you can say anything, even flat out lie, or make shit up too back your argument, but if a Conservative makes any kind of statement , no matter how factual, it's a lie, and they are ignorant.

Guess "free speech in America" only applies to the Liberals, the rest of us should just keep our mouths shut, huh?

[Warriorbird]

Voted today. It was nice.

[Warriorbird]

I support Charlie Daniels' right to make an essay. I also support Hunter S. Thompson's. They're about on the same level of rhetoric. For all his flag waving, Daniels is much more readable than most conservative writers.

[Edited on 10-23-2004 by Warriorbird]

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Slider
Guess "free speech in America" only applies to the Liberals, the rest of us should just keep our mouths shut, huh? Which part of "like most artists" did you miss?

[Ilvane]

I don't see anyone saying Sean Penn, Barbra Streisand, etc are any more qualified. I was just calling the essay and what was inside as it was..the same qualified opinion as an anyman on the street, albeit drunk on Jack Daniels.

-A

[Back]

Kinda like Michael Moore. You know, just a person stating an opinion. Last time I checked, it was ok in this country.

[Slider]

So it take it from your statement Latrinsorm that your saying Sean Penn, and Barbara Streisand should also STFU?

Oh, and as long as we are talking "artists", why don't we throw Michael Moore in there as well, after all, he had such a unbiased opinion about Bush when he wrote Fahrenheit 9/11 right? Even though 99% of what he said in the movie was proven to be false, it's still ok for him to say it, right? That's protected by the First Ammendment, so he can say any kind of shit he wants right?

You can't have it both ways, either you say ALL of them need to STFU, or none of them....you cannot say just the Liberals have this right.

God bless America indeed.

- Arkans

[Tsa`ah]

Ummm ... read the post above yours Einstein.

I think the point is that the same folks rushing in to "defend" the comments against the red neck are the same people that have been bad mouthing Moore.

Get a grip.

Hey, Michael Moore can say what he wants and so can Charlie. I just happened to agree with Charlie about 100x more.

- Arkans

[Tsa`ah]

Referring to Slider and his inability to comprehend the post above his.

I wouldn't have used so many big words replying to you. Sorry for the nose bleed.

Hey, guess what? I wasn't replying to you, just making a general statement so uh.. STFU.

- Arkans

[Tsa`ah]

Hey, guess what? I don't give a fuck.

Do enough to reply. BOO HOO.

- Arkans

[Straight-up]

<<I think the point is that the same folks rushing in to "defend" the comments against the red neck are the same people that have been bad mouthing Moore.>>


I rushed to defend him and I have never said a word about Michael Moore. Either generalize correctly or don't generalize please.


Straight

[Slider]

I am confused Tsa'ah, Latrinsorm said that, and i'll qoute, "Like most artists, Charlie Daniels would be better off keeping his mouth shut when he's not singing". I simply asked if this also applied to Barbara Streisand, Sean Penn, and Michael Moore.

For example, lets take Michael Moore. He is an artist, i think we can all agree on that, or at least, he will. He has been defended on these boards more than once as having the right under the First Ammendment, to say, or put on film, anything he wants. Correct? Yet when Charlie Daniels exercises the very same right, he should keep his mouth shut. Or am i mis-reading what Latrinsorm said above?

[Warriorbird]

Latrin's a conservative...

[Tsa`ah]

What WB said and I merely directed you to the post made by Backlash.

It's just ironic that Moore gets bashed for everything including his weight, but how dare someone comment about the fiddle player's tripe.

It's rather played and overly hypocritical.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Slider
So it take it from your statement Latrinsorm that your saying Sean Penn, and Barbara Streisand should also STFU?

Oh, and as long as we are talking "artists", why don't we throw Michael Moore in there as well, after all, he had such a unbiased opinion about Bush when he wrote Fahrenheit 9/11 right? Even though 99% of what he said in the movie was proven to be false, it's still ok for him to say it, right? That's protected by the First Ammendment, so he can say any kind of shit he wants right?

You can't have it both ways, either you say ALL of them need to STFU, or none of them....you cannot say just the Liberals have this right. It hurts me that you would imply that I in any way condone what Michael Moore does. However, when I said "artist", I was for the most part referring to musicians, actors, and the like. Moore doesn't fall into that category, because while they are often misinformed, the people I'm talking about rarely go out of their way to purposely misinform others.
Originally posted by Warriorbird
Latrin's a conservative...:(

I'm seriously not, guys. The problem is most of the stuff I'm liberal about is so far-out it's never discussed amongst, you know, sane people. And we've got a few of those here, so it's never come up.

[Slider]

Tsa'ah I will agree with you 100% that Michael Moore has the undeniable right to say any-fucking-thing he wants too. But I also have the very same right to point out errors that he has made, lies he has told, or just shit that he made up as he went along.

That is my First Ammendment right too after all.

[Back]

http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

W A R N I N G !

Harsh material not suitable for youngsters.

[Edited on 10-23-2004 by Backlash]

[Ilvane]

heh, sad.

What's disturbing about that is that it again somehow puts Iraq at fault for 9/11. Too bad they weren't involved..and it was Al Queda..

Some of the names in there are people like John O'Neil, of Swift Boat Veterans fame..heh..Fascinating and pathetic at the same time.

-A

[Edited on 10-23-2004 by Ilvane]

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by Slider
but if a Conservative makes any kind of statement , no matter how factual, it's a lie, and they are ignorant.

Guess "free speech in America" only applies to the Liberals, the rest of us should just keep our mouths shut, huh?
Yea, pretty much. Go back and read Chuckie's statement, sport. Didn't he say that if you don't agree with his redneck way of thinking you're a traitor?

They said that fucking bullshit during Vietnam, and you know something? THE LIBERALS WERE RIGHT. The domino theory was bullshit, Southeast Asia didn't go Commie. LBJ did fake an incident to get us in the war, and that was proven. We lost 50,000 dead US soldiers in Nam and wrecked our economy for fucking nothing. And people like you called anyone against the war a traitor and a Commie and threw them in jail for saying so.

And you were wrong then.

And you're wrong now.

Daniels wants to kill the terrorists? Then why aren't the fucking troops in Afghanistan, where the terrorists are? Why are we dicking around with Iraq, where the terrorists weren't???

Simple. Because the oil Halliburton wants isn't in Kabul.

[Jack]

Maybe you should do a little research. There ARE troops in Afghanistan....

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Slider
Oh, and as long as we are talking "artists", why don't we throw Michael Moore in there as well, after all, he had such a unbiased opinion about Bush when he wrote Fahrenheit 9/11 right? Even though 99% of what he said in the movie was proven to be false, it's still ok for him to say it, right?


Please prove that 99% of it was false. We'll await your documentation.

[Ilvane]

:loveu:

[Warriorbird]

And the focus is of course on Iraq, Slider. And there aren't any troops in Pakistan. For a supposedly educated military person you can be pretty blind. Go read some Wolfowitz. Help the conservative Jews conquer the Middle East. Help the profiteering. Be happy. It's the Republican way. You'll probably win the election anyways.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Slider
Lemme get this straight now, Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, etc. all of the liberal actors/performers get high acclaim for their "well informed, unbiased" veiws, and statements about what THEY think is right for the U.S. but ol' Charlie speaks his mind, and he's an "confederate flag-waving redneck" who obviously "would be better off keeping his mouth shut" to qoute 2 of you.

Just out of curiosity, tell me, would either of these statements have been made if he had come out and given the same "well thought out, unbiased, noninflammatory, and intelligent essay" that just happened to blast Bush, like the rest of them do? Or would that have been yet another example of someone exercising their right to free speech in America? (as long as it's a Liberal opinion that is).

Yet another wonderfull example of how if you are a Liberal, you can say anything, even flat out lie, or make shit up too back your argument, but if a Conservative makes any kind of statement , no matter how factual, it's a lie, and they are ignorant.

Guess "free speech in America" only applies to the Liberals, the rest of us should just keep our mouths shut, huh?

Who the hell ever called Streisand, Fonda, and Penn unbiased? They get called commie and unpatriotic for voicing their views.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Jack
Maybe you should do a little research. There ARE troops in Afghanistan....


Yes but 1/10 of the money is being spent in Afghanistan as it is in Iraq.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Backlash
http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

W A R N I N G !

Harsh material not suitable for youngsters.

[Edited on 10-23-2004 by Backlash]

I loved the way Moore's words were taken out of context. Great piece of propaganda. Who made it Karl Rove?

[Hulkein]

Charlie Daniels is the man.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by xtc
I loved the way Moore's words were taken out of context.I hope you were being serious or ironic.