Undead Gap

[Versin]

My cleric is rapidly sinking into the undead gap...any advice?

[Tenlaar]

Kill living things for a while?

[everan]

Just curious, where is the undead gap? I've been through one before, but they took care of that one.

[Fallen]

Doesn't River's Rest have undead high enough to get you to the Rift?

[mgoddess]

Oldest undead in the Rest is 62/63... rift starts in the mid-70's, right?

[Androidpk]

Oldest undead in the Rest is 62/63... rift starts in the mid-70's, right?

Yup. A bit of a jump but I imagine still doable with some help.

[Geijon Khyree]

The undead gap is officially Wind Wraiths and Soul golems to Naisirc's in the rift or about level 64-75.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Undead

[Archigeek]

Oh how I hated the undead gap. It's much better now than it used to be though.

[Nahkaev]

soul golems are not an option for many professions because of their immunities, clerics just happen to luck out here. So for most folks the gap is wind wraiths (61 and no loot + vanish when you hit them) to Naisircs (75)- which means you have *no* options once you can kill a Naisirc than to go get shit on in the rift if you want to hunt the dead.

Smite is a useless spell in certain level ranges, luckily you can probably eek by 312'ing dwellers and minotaurs meanwhile now that 319 does what it does.

[Versin]

thanks for the helpful suggestion


soul golems are not an option for many professions because of their immunities, clerics just happen to luck out here. So for most folks the gap is wind wraiths (61 and no loot + vanish when you hit them) to Naisircs (75)- which means you have *no* options once you can kill a Naisirc than to go get shit on in the rift if you want to hunt the dead.

Smite is a useless spell in certain level ranges, luckily you can probably eek by 312'ing dwellers and minotaurs meanwhile now that 319 does what it does.

[Donquix]

The bestiary script might be a bit outdated, but if you do ";best undead level 1-110" it gives a good idea of how bad that gap actually is. I did 1-100 out of habit so it's missing the post-cap undead (sentries, lichs, siphons)

level|creatures
1|Lesser ghoul, Skeleton, Zombie rolton
2|Ghost, Lesser frost shade, Lesser shade, Moaning phantom, Phantom
3|Greater ghoul, Ice skeleton
4|Revenant, Ridge orc
5|Dark apparition, Mist wraith
6|Lesser mummy, Spectral fisherman
7|none
8|Bone golem
9|Death dirge, Snow spectre
10|Werebear
11|none
12|none
13|Darkwoode
14|Shadowy spectre, Spectre
15|Tomb wight, Wolfshade, Wraith
16|Ghost wolf, Ghoul master
17|none
18|Elder ghoul master, Ghostly warrior, Nedum vereri, Rotting krolvin pirate
19|none
20|Arch wight, Wood wight
21|Ancient ghoul master
22|none
23|Crazed zombie, Niirsha, Nonomino, Rotting woodsman, Zombie
24|Night hound
25|Carceris, Sacristan spirit, Spectral monk
26|Tree spirit
27|Frenzied monk, Monastic lich
28|Moaning spirit
29|none
30|Elder tree spirit
31|Skeletal ice troll
32|Ghostly mara, Lesser fetid corpse, Rotting corpse, Rotting farmhand
33|Ghostly pooka, Skeletal giant
34|Luminous spectre, Rock troll zombie, Skeletal soldier, Spectral warrior
35|Barghest, Spectral shade, Spectral woodsman, Troll wraith
36|Spectral lord
37|Lesser moor wight, Shadow mare, Skeletal warhorse
38|Shadow steed
39|Greater moor wight, Vourkha
40|Spectral miner
41|Bog wraith, Skeletal lord
42|Baesrukha, Frozen corpse, Greater fetid corpse, Phantasma
43|Night mare
44|Bog wight, Gaunt spectral servant
45|Ice wraith, Lesser vruul
46|Rotting chimera
47|Bog spectre
48|Dybbuk, Necrotic snake, Warrior shade
49|Waern
50|Banshee, Flesh golem
51|none
52|Seeker
53|none
54|Ethereal mage apprentice
55|Eidolon, Nightmare steed
56|Decaying Citadel guardsman
57|none
58|Rotting Citadel arbalester
59|none
60|Putrefied Citadel herald
61|Wind wraith
62|Phantasmal bestial swordsman
63|Soul golem
64|none
65|none
66|none
67|none
68|none
69|none
70|none
71|none
72|none
73|none
74|none
75|Greater vruul, Naisirc
76|Shrickhen
77|none
78|Seraceris
79|none
80|none
81|none
82|none
83|none
84|Lich qyn'arj
85|none
86|none
87|N'ecare
88|none
89|none
90|none
91|Lost soul
92|none
93|Vaespilon
94|none
95|none
96|none
97|Fallen crusader
98|Spectral triton defender
99|none
100|none

[everan]

soul golems are not an option for many professions because of their immunities, clerics just happen to luck out here. So for most folks the gap is wind wraiths (61 and no loot + vanish when you hit them) to Naisircs (75)- which means you have *no* options once you can kill a Naisirc than to go get shit on in the rift if you want to hunt the dead.

Smite is a useless spell in certain level ranges, luckily you can probably eek by 312'ing dwellers and minotaurs meanwhile now that 319 does what it does.

I got loot off wind wraiths when I hunted them, but only gems I think. Plus I got those vials. Or maybe I am imagining it?

That chart shows a heck of a gap though. Greater vruul were easy, but I could never find enough of them.

[Celephais]

Dat Undead Gap
http://i.imgur.com/5djTGBI.jpg

[Androidpk]

Dat Undead Gap
http://i.imgur.com/5djTGBI.jpg

Is that a beer zombie?

[Celephais]

Is that a beer zombie?
http://beerthirty.com/main/images/zombiebeer.jpg

[Fallen]

Looks like RR is definitely an option. Over hunt by about 5-6 levels, then jump to the Rift. Shricken are doable as well if you wanted to spell tank a bit (thought spellburst is in effect in that area)

[Donquix]

Looks like RR is definitely an option. Over hunt by about 5-6 levels, then jump to the Rift. Shricken are doable as well if you wanted to spell tank a bit (thought spellburst is in effect in that area)

those levels have minimum entrance requirements as well. Once you outlevel golems/swordsman you literally have no option, at all, until 66/67(?) as you can't enter those areas. Now granted you might say that's "only" 3-4 levels if you take hunting those low 60's things to about their max. But, if you think about it, you're going to have two types of players mainly. Power hunters who like to overhunt, and filthy casuals. For the former, that level gap is huge because you're probably pooping on the the low 60s thing WELL before you can get into the next areas. For the more casual hunter, those few levels might equate to months of time.

It's pretty ridiculous that a gap that large still exists. Even if they just got rid of the level requirements for rift or especially maaghara (which is super random that it has one) it might be better.

[Androidpk]

What about shrickens (sp?) In Maaghera?

[Fallen]

What about shrickens (sp?) In Maaghera?

That's what Donquix just pointed out. I had forgotten there are hard level caps for entrance into Maaghara's Tower for Shrickens. You'd have to hunt the shit out of River's Rest, but it's still doable.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

back in gs3 we wore brig, we ambushed with blunts, and we powered through the undead gap. man up and fixskills. but really you should just go hunt the lower eye with 306. or raise and do bounties.