Magically Sanctified

[kutter]

Ok, I have poked around some and I cannot get a hard and fast answer, is it possible to have something sanctified by a GM/merchant that is just an ordinary item? I keep thinking I am seeing some references to it but cannot actually find anywhere that a merchant or festival offered it.

[JackWhisper]

That's because it's not mainstream. There's a very niche market for it, being only paladins, but they told us last year they were going to work on adding it into services soon so paladins had an option to sanct armor/shields/weapons.

[JackWhisper]

Oh, and to answer, yes it's possible. It's just not something that you see, even on a yearly basis.

[elcidcannon]

Aren't there random sanct'd shields/runestaves/armor that are generated by the treasure system? But they've got no real purpose

[JackWhisper]

He wants the service. To put on an item worth a shit, basically. Which has been something I've been asking for since '13.

[kutter]

Yes I want to get my set of gleaming rolaren full plate sanctified

[kutter]

I wonder why a paladin would want a sanctified weapon, unless it is just one that is younger and cannot yet bond one yet. But I see a lot of use for it when it comes to armor and shields. I sure hope they decide to start offering it some, or offer a way for a paladin to bond his armor/shield items, but no idea how it would actually bond since you cannot hit something with it, for the most part anyway.

[Erous]

I'm looking for a sanct weapon now actually. I want to move up in voln, but the items I carried over from reroll are flaring and weighted, so I can't bless them. I'd like to sanct my polearm if I could at least to hold me over until sanctify

[Jeril]

I'm looking for a sanct weapon now actually. I want to move up in voln, but the items I carried over from reroll are flaring and weighted, so I can't bless them. I'd like to sanct my polearm if I could at least to hold me over until sanctify

Cleric shop in Icemule sells 4x santified weapons.

[kutter]

I went through the same thing, my paladin is polearms. How old is your paladin, I have a straight 4 enchant naginata, that you are welcome too. Getting blesses is not really that hard and once you get up a few steps, 10 I think, in voln, you can bless it yourself, add consecrate on top of that and the bless will last quite a bit longer. You will not need a sanctified weapon once you get to 25 and can bond it.

[DaCapn]

You will not need a sanctified weapon once you get to 25 and can bond it.

My understanding is that this is part of the reason why sanctification service isn't very high on the list. Added to that, if you could advocate for undead bane or sanctification, which would you poll for?

I'd bet people would like the service for shields, though. Maybe there's some intention to keep those more rare. I don't know.

[Androidpk]

Sanctified needs a buff.

[kutter]

Truthfully I would just like to see a tweak on Sanctify so you can do it with shields, armor, leg greaves, items like that, just not sure how they would go about it. If I can bond a weapon, why not my armor, etc. But it will probably never happen so I need to see about getting my armor sanctified instead.

[Maerit]

They need to make 1625 a spell you can use to permanently sanctify items (armor, shields, and of course weapons). Paladins don't have a service to offer anyone anyway. This isn't something that will greatly impact the community or be highly sought after. Lots of classes have a method to help improve the equipment of others, and others can make magical items that are highly sought after.

Sorcerers have Ensorcell.
Wizards have Enchant Item.
Rangers have Elemental Resistance.
Warriors can have useful Armor modifiers.
Rogues can add Locks to containers.

I don't see why a Paladin shouldn't have a special ability by using some kind of potion, or a gem, or a ceremony to use 1625 to permanently sanctify items. This should be an easy skill to make into a player service since frankly, sanctifying something turns the item into a "niche" item. It makes it increasingly harder to enchant and ensorcell, and restricts it's value to the non-paladin (and sometimes cleric) market, so there's really no superior advantage to extending the function of 1625 in my opinion. You won't have people lining up to get their items sanctified.

Though once you get a shield to 10x, spiked, with T5 ensorcell - then adding Sanctify to that item is bad ass.

[DaCapn]

They need to make 1625 a spell you can use to permanently sanctify items (armor, shields, and of course weapons). Paladins don't have a service to offer anyone anyway. This isn't something that will greatly impact the community or be highly sought after. Lots of classes have a method to help improve the equipment of others, and others can make magical items that are highly sought after.

Sorcerers have Ensorcell.
Wizards have Enchant Item.
Rangers have Elemental Resistance.
Warriors can have useful Armor modifiers.
Rogues can add Locks to containers.

I don't see why a Paladin shouldn't have a special ability by using some kind of potion, or a gem, or a ceremony to use 1625 to permanently sanctify items. This should be an easy skill to make into a player service since frankly, sanctifying something turns the item into a "niche" item. It makes it increasingly harder to enchant and ensorcell, and restricts it's value to the non-paladin (and sometimes cleric) market, so there's really no superior advantage to extending the function of 1625 in my opinion. You won't have people lining up to get their items sanctified.

Though once you get a shield to 10x, spiked, with T5 ensorcell - then adding Sanctify to that item is bad ass.

I don't really see how this is an idea that benefits anyone but paladins.

Also, I get a kick out of "adding locks to containers" being on a list with ensorcell.

[Maerit]

I don't really see how this is an idea that benefits anyone but paladins.

Also, I get a kick out of "adding locks to containers" being on a list with ensorcell.

As a sorcerer, adding locks to containers is amazingsauce!

[time4fun]

I wonder why a paladin would want a sanctified weapon, unless it is just one that is younger and cannot yet bond one yet. But I see a lot of use for it when it comes to armor and shields. I sure hope they decide to start offering it some, or offer a way for a paladin to bond his armor/shield items, but no idea how it would actually bond since you cannot hit something with it, for the most part anyway.

1625 is great if you only use one weapon. But for those who have multiple weapons, this service is potentially very appealing. But, for the most part , folks actually want it for armor or shields.

In terms of armor/shield benefits- that's been suggested a few times. Shields would probably cause a small uproar given how many polearm/THW paladins are out there. Armor is the more likely candidate. (Permanent Faith's Clarity, for example)

[Aluvius]

Sanctified equipment should be usable by members of Voln as if they were a cleric/paladin.

It should be buffed more for clerics/paladins in some way.

[Viekn]

As a sorcerer, adding locks to containers is amazingsauce!

Never knew there was anything better than awesomesauce. Good to know.

[Maerit]

I don't really see how this is an idea that benefits anyone but paladins.

Also, I get a kick out of "adding locks to containers" being on a list with ensorcell.

To your point - it would mostly benefit paladins. However, there is a small benefit to Clerics - even Pure Clerics. Sanctify on a Runestaff + 1604 from a scroll or a paladin accomplice means you get to have double plasma flares when you cast offensive spells.

But yes, permanent Sanctify on armor and equipment other than weapons would basically just help paladins. Of course, they could also tweak 1604's Lore component to unlock plasma flares to be used by anyone with a sanctified item.

So basically, Sanctify your leg greaves, have a paladin with sufficient lore bonus use 1604 on them, and now you can go sweep targets and have plasma flares. Sanctify your helmet, have a paladin with sufficient lore bonus use 1604 on the helmet, and your headbutts can plasma flare. Ect ect...

This would make Sanctify valuable for more than just paladins, but still require a paladin in the process to make use of the sanctified equipment. Still not horribly useful, but definitely a nice perk if it were to be implemented.

Can you use Bless Item on a sanctified piece of equipment? I forget...

[Aluvius]

No, you can't bless sanctified equipment.

[Fallen]

No, you can't bless sanctified equipment.

Which is retarded. If Paladins were going to get tied to sanctification, the base properties of a sanctified item would have to improve.

[Maerit]

This seems like a multiple-step process to get Sanctified equipment to have some greater value.

1. Change it so sanctified equipment can be blessed. This only makes sense for an item specifically prepared to be sanctified for the sake of fighting the undead.

2. I personally would like 1604 to provide plasma flares on sanctified equipment for everyone if the paladin casting the spell is sufficiently trained in the proper lore(s).

3. Update 1625 to have a ceremony that allows it to permanently sanctify any kind of armor, weapons, and shields.

This would provide the general playerbase (not just paladins) with access to equipment that could be blessed or consecrated providing holy water flares against the undead or plasma flares against the living. Useful for anyone, but not exceedingly powerful to be highly sought after.

It would give the general population much easier access to flaring pieces of armor for various manuevers, and combines the effects of flares and spikes on many pieces of equipment also (shields, greaves, helmets for starters). Not to mention giving paladins (and to some smaller degree clerics) access to more sanctified equipment that would help in the fight against the undead.

And of course, Sanctified equipment would still only be permanently blessed while equipped by a Cleric or a Paladin.

[Herachio]

Can a sanctified weapon have elemental flares? I guess so since I saw a sanctified weapon with weighting. Answered my own question I suppose.

For some reason I thought the sanctified spot was the same as the weighting and flare spot. Must be different.

[DaCapn]

Personally, I think the bless system itself is a problem. I'd opt for something more like sanctification/bless being required to hit incorporeal creatures and simply anything with an enchant (or even eblade, really) to be able to hit corporeal undead. I don't view this intrinsically as a paladin problem. I think of it as a problem with physical attacks in general. You'll note that wizards, sorcerers, clerics, empaths, and bards can all kill undead by design without any special consideration (I hesitate to add paladins to this list). Only one of these has anything to do with holiness and holiness is otherwise required. Just a little silly.


As a sorcerer, adding locks to containers is amazingsauce!
I don't disagree with the merits but to put it on the same list as ensorcell/enchant for "services for improving others gear" really is a bit of a joke. If you join them in a category, you must at least take a moment to consider where they lie in the scale of usefulness relative to one another. My sorcerer is a dwarf so he's got good carry capacity (I don't get encumbered until I have a good 100lbs in my cloak). But I don't even bother phasing boxes, much less putting locks on my containers. If you phase boxes, you could be a Burghal and be just fine without locking containers.

[kutter]

Can a sanctified weapon have elemental flares? I guess so since I saw a sanctified weapon with weighting. Answered my own question I suppose.

For some reason I thought the sanctified spot was the same as the weighting and flare spot. Must be different.

You did answer it but I will confirm your answer, have a sanctified lance with void flares, it was an EG find I think last year, one of the scripted twisted white ones, at least I think it is white, but for sure it is sanctified and has void flares.

[Roblar]

FYI for any questions about item slots:

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Item_properties_and_special_abilities_(saved_post)

Yes sanct status does not conflict with "Cat B" possibilities. It does however raise the internal cost for other festival work as it seems to increase the bardsong/item value more than it really is worth to most. If not inherit to metal and not needed/wanted, strip from a project piece when possible.