open hand combat

[Shantin]

Just converted one of my toons to monk

Two questions I'm doing edged and brawling how's the open hand brawling system work what are best cman Skills

At lvl 30 I have 15 harness power 15 minor mental 2x edge 2x brawl 2x two weaponcombat dropping to 1x prob 1.5x cm 1.5x dodge 1x pf 1x ambush 1x armor .5x climb swim

[Astray]

The smartest move would be to convert back and pretend that the conversion was a fever dream.

[Shantin]

Only lvl 30 not a big deal plus I wanted a two weapon combat toon

[Astray]

Only lvl 30 not a big deal plus I wanted a two weapon combat toon

You'd be better served with a Rogue. Monks are fine until creatures cast at you.

[Androidpk]

Just converted one of my toons to monk

Two questions I'm doing edged and brawling how's the open hand brawling system work what are best cman Skills

At lvl 30 I have 15 harness power 15 minor mental 2x edge 2x brawl 2x two handed weapon dropping to 1x prob 1.5x cm 1.5x dodge 1x pf 1x ambush 1x armor .5x climb swim

Punch mastery and rolling krynch stance for Cmans. I would drop armor completely and do 2x in PF and dodge, since they're so damn cheap for monks.

Doing edge, brawl and THW is expensive. I would stick to just one unless you plan using katars.

[Donquix]

1) don't use the word toon

2) i assume "two handed weapon" is a typo and you meant "two weapon combat", i hope

3) being 1x PF and 1.5x dodge is bad. you should be 2x in both, 1x ambush is very much overkill, and not being 2x in CM is underkill. You have zero MOC?. That's bad.

4) what weapons are you using? are you using katars (i assume with the brawl + edged...)? if you're using katars or other held weapons are you JAB/PUNCH/GRAPPLE/KICKing with them or ATTACKing? If you're doing the former, stop. Don't use weapons if you're doing UAC, which that means you should stop training edge entirely.

[Shantin]

Ya messing with katars dunno what's up to uac on undead I need more voln steps or cmans?

Sorry haven't been around since monk came out read a few articles some stuff wasn't made clear on the uac system so still trying figure out how to not use my katarina lol

[Androidpk]

You'd be better served with a Rogue. Monks are fine until creatures cast at you.

That is why you don't let them cast at you.

[Astray]

That is why you don't let them cast at you.

Easier said than done sometimes.

[Androidpk]

Easier said than done sometimes.

Mental dispel rocks for that.

[Androidpk]

Ya messing with katars dunno what's up to uac on undead I need more voln steps or cmans?

Sorry haven't been around since monk came out read a few articles some stuff wasn't made clear on the uac system so still trying figure out how to not use my katarina lol

Get some plain hand/foot wraps, gloves, boots, ect.. get them blessed to attack undead. Enchanted ones that are blessable or have flares are cheap and readily available. UAC only works with certain brawling weapons and even then it really isn't worth it because you'll have a penalty added to your MM, which is the most important stat for UAC.

[Shantin]

ok so im at lvl 30 20 minor elemental 15 harness power 2x cm 2x brawl 2x dodge 2x pf 1x moc (1x two weapon combat dont need for uac i suppose?)

[Androidpk]

Donquix can correct me if I'm wrong but I think you just need 1 rank of TWC to be able to parry with your offhand. 1x to get a DS bonus I think.

[Donquix]

the moc is debatable. it's so cheap, a lot of people keep it 1x. but you really don't get that much out of it because mstrike isn't uac compatible. judgement call really between 1xing it for funsies or just picking up enough to get the first few FoF offsets (which at 30 is basically 1x :D)

the rest, yeah. you're missing transformation lore which helps with dragonclaw, iron skin (if you do drop armor), etc. it is kind of expensive and really you don't get hit that much physically, so forgoing it isn't that big of a deal. you can pick up 5 ranks for an ASG bonus on 1202 for relatively cheap. The next breakpoint for 1202 is 15 ranks, if you hit that by 50 you'll be in brig equivalent so full body coverage scale armor.

depending on what outside spells you'll get you will want to look at getting up to 107. I prefer to rush 1220, as you did, and would say shoot for 120 by 60-70, but i prefer more spells then some. Basically i like having 120 by the time the game assumes real squares are in plate.

[Donquix]

Donquix can correct me if I'm wrong but I think you just need 1 rank of TWC to be able to parry with your offhand. 1x to get a DS bonus I think.

yup, there's less of parry ds after 1x. I 1x.

[Shantin]

Thanks for the knowledge on my toon lol

[Donquix]

Thanks for the knowledge on my toon lol

staaaaaahp

[Androidpk]

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[Shantin]

Character? What's the difference lol

[Androidpk]

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[Shantin]

Lol

[Shantin]

Yall niggas just old I started gemstone when I was 9 years of age haha

[Jeril]

For TWC most go to .5x, where you get the +10 open handed bonus and call it a day. You are only getting .1 DS per rank after that which makes even 3x dodge a better return. And after a while even being 3x dodge is better tp wise then having more then 1 rank of TWC. I've just been too lazy to sit down and figure out what level that happens for monks and rogues.

[Aluvius]

You should also look into just training armor use so you get the CvA benefits from real armor. It ends up being cheaper since most monks will be converting ptp's at that point for the transformation lore anyway. Brig/torso chain seems a good middle area to me, though its possible to go up to mbp if you focus on a build that doesn't use 1207 much.

[Androidpk]

You should also look into just training armor use so you get the CvA benefits from real armor. It ends up being cheaper since most monks will be converting ptp's at that point for the transformation lore anyway. Brig/torso chain seems a good middle area to me, though its possible to go up to mbp if you focus on a build that doesn't use 1207 much.

Then you get a penalty to uac and dodge. I wouldn't really worry about CvA until close to cap.