Anyone know anything about burying downspouts?

[Tgo01]

So there are some downspouts in my yard that I want to bury and I'm wondering about pop up drains. I see everyone on the internets saying pop up drains work awesome but I'm wondering if anyone knows what advantage they have, if any, over just having a grate on top of a pvc pipe at the end?

Like, I get that you're supposed to bury the pipe and have it run at least 10 feet away from the house then have the pipe come up to ground level at the end of the pipe but what's so special about a pop up drain over just a grate at the end? Seems like a pop up drain is just more pieces you have to worry about stepping on and breaking or hitting with yard tools or whatnot.


So why use this:

http://www.harryhelmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/GutterHelmet.jpg

Over this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LJBPETVKt8s/hqdefault.jpg

They would both do pretty much the exact same thing, right?

[Archigeek]

If you live in a cold climate don't use either one, otherwise I think you're right and either one will work. Just make sure they stay clear. Also, stagnant water may be a little bit of an issue; I guess it depends on how much it rains where you live.

[Tgo01]

If you live in a cold climate don't use either one, otherwise I think you're right and either one will work. Just make sure they stay clear. Also, stagnant water may be a little bit of an issue; I guess it depends on how much it rains where you live.

I do live in a place where it freezes during the winter and I read these types of setups were a bad idea for this kind of climate but I'm not sure I have much choice. My yard is pretty flat so I can't "daylight" the end of the pipes. I thought about a dry well but my soil is pretty shitty for draining apparently. I tried a test I read about online where you dig down like 4 feet and pour 5 gallons of water in the hole to see how fast the water drained, 24 hours later I didn't even notice a drop in the water level and ideally you would see 1 inch of water drain away in like 5 minutes. I suppose I could have just chosen a particularly bad spot to test for the dry well but I dunno. Not sure what other options I have.

[Whirlin]

I do live in a place where it freezes during the winter and I read these types of setups were a bad idea for this kind of climate but I'm not sure I have much choice. My yard is pretty flat so I can't "daylight" the end of the pipes. I thought about a dry well but my soil is pretty shitty for draining apparently. I tried a test I read about online where you dig down like 4 feet and pour 5 gallons of water in the hole to see how fast the water drained, 24 hours later I didn't even notice a drop in the water level and ideally you would see 1 inch of water drain away in like 5 minutes. I suppose I could have just chosen a particularly bad spot to test for the dry well but I dunno. Not sure what other options I have.

If you're a gardener, my mother in law installed some sort of barrels at the end of her gutter downspouts, which she can then pressurize and use to water her garden.

If your soil sucks for absorbing water, would an offset drainage pipe really solve the problem, or just offset it from the house to avoid some foundation water damage?

[Latrinsorm]

MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T A RACIST YOU WOULD KNOW

[Archigeek]

If you live in a cold climate you need to slope your property away from the house instead, and end the downspout as far away from your house as you can. Do whatever you can to get and keep water away from your house. Underground drains are a bad idea in a cold climate.

Also, if your soil isn't absorbing any water it's likely that it's clay, which makes it even more important to slope away from the house, since clay is often stratified and water will move horizontally above the clay... till it reaches your house.

[Tgo01]

If your soil sucks for absorbing water, would an offset drainage pipe really solve the problem, or just offset it from the house to avoid some foundation water damage?

Yeah I'm mainly looking to bury them so I don't have those long extensions on my yard and so I can move the water further away from the foundation. I guess the first foot or two of soil in my yard drains pretty well, just after that it seems to be mostly rock.


MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T A RACIST YOU WOULD KNOW

You bastard!


If you live in a cold climate you need to slope your property away from the house instead, and end the downspout as far away from your house as you can. Do whatever you can to get and keep water away from your house.

But how am I going to do this with a flat yard? The buried pipe wouldn't have anywhere to discharge to :/


Underground drains are a bad idea in a cold climate.

Because of freezing?


Also, if your soil isn't absorbing any water it's likely that it's clay, which makes it even more important to slope away from the house, since clay is often stratified and water will move horizontally above the clay... till it reaches your house.

Yeah I'm trying to move the water from the downspouts about 20 or 30 feet away from the house.

[GymStoned]

just dig a ditch

[Wrathbringer]

I do live in a place where it freezes during the winter and I read these types of setups were a bad idea for this kind of climate but I'm not sure I have much choice. My yard is pretty flat so I can't "daylight" the end of the pipes. I thought about a dry well but my soil is pretty shitty for draining apparently. I tried a test I read about online where you dig down like 4 feet and pour 5 gallons of water in the hole to see how fast the water drained, 24 hours later I didn't even notice a drop in the water level and ideally you would see 1 inch of water drain away in like 5 minutes. I suppose I could have just chosen a particularly bad spot to test for the dry well but I dunno. Not sure what other options I have.

Just pour concrete. You're welcome.

[GymStoned]

I thought I'd relay a comment someone actually gave me as a reputation comment instead of posting here. The comment suggested using a douchebag for this application. I'm not sure how, exactly.

[Sean]

If you live in a cold climate you need to slope your property away from the house instead, and end the downspout as far away from your house as you can. Do whatever you can to get and keep water away from your house. Underground drains are a bad idea in a cold climate.

Also, if your soil isn't absorbing any water it's likely that it's clay, which makes it even more important to slope away from the house, since clay is often stratified and water will move horizontally above the clay... till it reaches your house.

Well he could put a cluster of concrete drainage rings and interconnect all of his gutters and send all his water into the system. But who wants a cluster of storm rings in the middle of their yard and it's pretty expensive to get rid of a couple pvc pipe runs. I don't know how cold his area is but I have used that setup in the tri-state area which gets cold.

[Wrathbringer]

Worst thread ever. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[Thondalar]

Worst thread ever. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Impossibru. I haven't posted in this thread yet.


oh, fuck.