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StrayRogue
10-19-2004, 10:07 AM
What do you think is the best, most balanced mix of spells for a cleric to have at the cap? I'm talking something that will provide a nice CS, and good defense. Any suggestions?

Dhuul
10-19-2004, 10:27 AM
Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 58.990 25 100+ in-game hours

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 54.989 40 69 in-game hours

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 78.982 45 100+ in-game hours

hehe I'm currently migrating at a very slow rate

But seriously, keep cleric at roughly your level, probably want to go up Minor with your other ranks for Blues, Locate, Alkars, Word of Return but you'll also want the Majors Bravery and Heroism if you swing, not to mention Transference.

StrayRogue
10-19-2004, 10:29 AM
I have all the spells at present. My training is optimised for Binding. I'm reducing those ranks to 40, or so and just looking for a better spread of spells.

Adhara
10-19-2004, 12:50 PM
how many total spell ranks? Do you want your cleric circle as your strongest?

StrayRogue
10-19-2004, 03:17 PM
With special thanks Adhara (<3) I'm left with the following choices:

Configuration 1

cleric 120 CS = 474
major 50 CS = 421
minor 50 (102: +44 120: +30)= 74

Configuration 2

cleric 100 CS = 464
major 80 CS = 446
minor 40 (102: +39 120: +25)= 64


Configuration 3

cleric 90 CS = 460
major 67 CS = 440
minor 63 (102: +51 120: +37)= 88


Configuration 4

cleric 90 CS = 459
major 70 CS = 441
minor 60 (102: +49 120: +35)= 84



Configuration 5

cleric 90 CS = 457
major 80 CS = 448
minor 50 (102: +44 120: +30)= 74


Configuration 6

cleric 85 CS = 456
major 65 CS = 440
minor 70 (102: +54 120: +40)= 94


Configuration 7

cleric 80 CS = 453
major 70 CS = 444
minor 70 (102: +54 120: +40)= 94


The numbers after Minor are the DS of 102 and 120. So any more suggestions?

Alarke
10-19-2004, 04:42 PM
I think first of all 2.2x is short on spells and you'll see that as you gain levels... You need to understand the power of overtraining in your cleric circle like it's you job. no kidding... more than you think makes sense.

CS = 3(training)+1(cleric circle up to 10 over said level) + .75(cleric circle 11-20 over said level)+.5(cleric circle 21-60 over said level)+.25(61+ cleric spells over said level) + .33(Minor circle up to 2/3 said training)+.33(major circle up to said training)+.1(minor/major circle over 2/3 said training) + Wisdom bonus

Yes... it's a mouthful. As you gain levels you'll see bind becomes less and less viable, as you wont swing as hard, mstrike, or ambush as well as anyone else. You'll most likely want 60 spells over cleric spells by 100... or at least working towards that...
I dont want to give my final plans at 100 because it's my personal plan and dont think anyone should take training from someone else spell for spell, but... i can tell you 160 cleric spells makes sense CS wise, and you can never have too many spells, im about 2.85x currently.

Mistomeer
10-19-2004, 05:57 PM
Your spell lists:
Minor Spiritual...67
Major Spiritual...67
Cleric Base.......169

That yields this:
Cleric CS -
You gesture at Mistomeer.
CS: +508 - TD: +340 + CvA: +15 + d100: +97 - +5 == +275
Warding failed!

Major Spirit -
You gesture at Mistomeer.
CS: +445 - TD: +340 + CvA: +15 + d100: +7 - +5 == +122
Warding failed!
A calm washes over Mistomeer

Minor Spirit -
You gesture at Mistomeer.
CS: +445 - TD: +340 + CvA: +15 + d100: +44 - +5 == +159
Warding failed!
The air thickens and begins to swirl around Mistomeer.

Alarke
10-19-2004, 08:05 PM
what mistomeer posted will get you the highest possible cleric CS. If all you care about is your cleric CS, that's perfect, if you want to balance CS and DS a bit, lower cleric to 160, lower major a bit and raise minor to whatever you can, as 102 and 120 give +1 DS per 2 spells and major spells give +1 DS per 3 spells. Mistomeer has posted a perfect example of how to overtrain cleric though.

StrayRogue
10-19-2004, 08:27 PM
Hmmm. The problem is tripling that much is going to kill my secondary skills. While you may laugh, I happen to like being able to pull in millions from skinning alone.

Alarke
10-19-2004, 11:21 PM
i have 2.8-2.9x spells and with a high dex and 1x FA im able to skin just fine. I hardly ever botch when cash hunting