Me currently

[Jeril]

Jeril, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Focus focus 5
Twin Hammerfists twinhamm 1
Hamstring hamstring 2
Headbutt headbutt 2
Charge charge 4
Stun Maneuvers stunman 2
Subdual Strike sstrike 2
Specialization I wspec1 5
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 2
Bull Rush bullrush 2
Surge of Strength surge 1
Block Mastery bmastery 2
Cunning Defense cdefense 4
Griffin's Voice griffin 3

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Tower Shield Focus tfocus 4
Shield Bash bash 4
Shield Charge charge 3
Prop Up prop 3
Adamantine Bulwark bulwark 3
Deflection Training dtraining 3
Deflection Mastery dmastery 4
Block the Elements eblock 1
Deflect the Elements deflect 1
Steady Shield steady 2
Guard Mastery gmastery 2
Tortoise Stance tortoise 3
Protective Wall pwall 2

Available Shield Training Points: 5

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 390 290
Shield Use.........................| 403 303
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 302 202
Polearm Weapons....................| 302 202
Brawling...........................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 201 101
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 265 165
Physical Fitness...................| 403 303
Dodging............................| 403 303
Arcane Symbols.....................| 201 101
Magic Item Use.....................| 142 42
Harness Power......................| 150 50
Elemental Mana Control.............| 50 10
Spirit Mana Control................| 50 10
Survival...........................| 302 202
Stalking and Hiding................| 50 10
Perception.........................| 302 202
Climbing...........................| 201 101
Swimming...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 302 202
Trading............................| 302 202
Pickpocketing......................| 201 101

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 30

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 20

>info start
Level 0 Stats for Jeril, Giantman Warrior

Strength (STR): 30
Constitution (CON): 59
Dexterity (DEX): 68
Agility (AGI): 68
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 82
Logic (LOG): 88
Intuition (INT): 40
Wisdom (WIS): 82
Influence (INF): 73

>info
Name: Jeril Race: Giantman Profession: Warrior (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 29 Expr: 33596083 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Constitution (CON): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Agility (AGI): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Discipline (DIS): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Intuition (INT): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)

[Androidpk]

How much xp now?

[Jeril]

How much xp now?

Experience: 33193980

[Archigeek]

It's hard for me to imagine using a tower shield and not having trample. Interesting to see other people's training plans.

[Ardwen]

Still a noob!

[Lady Sylvan]

Impressive. You should learn archery next.

[Tgo01]

Still a noob!

That's what I was thinking. Only 50 spell ranks?

[Lady Sylvan]

Hey Jeril,

Are you going to eventually get 303 ranks of armor or leave it at 290?

[Jeril]

Hey Jeril,

Are you going to eventually get 303 ranks of armor or leave it at 290?

I don't know, unless I decide to get enhancives to put me up to a 430 bonus so I can cast MnE in fullplate there isn't really a reason to get 303 ranks of armor. Also, archery is on the list.

[Archigeek]

I don't know, unless I decide to get enhancives to put me up to a 430 bonus so I can cast MnE in fullplate there isn't really a reason to get 303 ranks of armor. Also, archery is on the list.

Every 2 ranks gets you 1% reduction in penalty right? Right now I'm at 52% with 303 ranks, which is do-able for emergency field casting. Is it worth it for 6%? Probably not. If you were going to go armor enhancives, I think the target would be 340 ranks, for the next reduction in maneuver penalty.

[Jeril]

Every 2 ranks gets you 1% reduction in penalty right? Right now I'm at 52% with 303 ranks, which is do-able for emergency field casting. Is it worth it for 6%? Probably not. If you were going to go armor enhancives, I think the target would be 340 ranks, for the next reduction in maneuver penalty.

430 skill bonus, or 330 ranks is the point for MnE hindrance and AP reduction. AP reduction is based off training for minimum RT not base maneuver bonus, so the thresholds are 180, 230, 280, 330.

[Archigeek]

430 skill bonus, or 330 ranks is the point for MnE hindrance and AP reduction. AP reduction is based off training for minimum RT not base maneuver bonus, so the thresholds are 180, 230, 280, 330.

Now I see that you were saying bonus not ranks, so we're thinking the same way. I'd thought about reaching for that point, but haven't really thought it was worth using up slots for, unless I was to find one or two items that would do it all by themselves, without gimping the rest of my enhancive plan. Not an easy thing to find.