So who owns Rogane

[WRoss]

I swore I wouldn't ever want this char back, but I'm sort of curious who has him, what his current stats are, and what the going price would be.

[SHAFT]

I swore I wouldn't ever want this char back, but I'm sort of curious who has him, what his current stats are, and what the going price would be.

I fucking told you!!!!!!!!!

[JackWhisper]

I am SO not trying to stir shit, but didn't Rogane get caught for AFK scripting like.... four times? Why would you want a character with that sort of mark back? I could have sworn there was a big LNet discussion over Rogane being pulled over and over.

[Tisket]

Don't warnings roll off after a certain time without further infraction?

If they don't, they should.

[Warriorbird]

Don't warnings roll off after a certain time without further infraction?

If they don't, they should.

They don't.

[Donquix]

Whoever has him, hasn't logged him in since I started tracking demographics. No rogane at all, so that goes back to dec of 2013.

[Tgo01]

Don't warnings roll off after a certain time without further infraction?

If they don't, they should.

I think forum warnings do, I don't think scripting violations do.

[WRoss]

That sucks. I had a pretty nasty past with warnings and stuff prior to 2009 or so with him as well, so with the scripting warnings and stuff, it probably wouldn't even be worth it.

[Thondalar]

Don't warnings roll off after a certain time without further infraction?

If they don't, they should.

Anything that involves an SGM and/or suspensions and/or pretty much anything more serious than a slap on the wrist goes on a permanent record.

[WRoss]

Anything that involves an SGM and/or suspensions and/or pretty much anything more serious than a slap on the wrist goes on a permanent record.

Well considering that when I had him, he had a 1 day ban and then a 30 day ban, the fact that he is even around anymore at all says something.

[Warriorbird]

Anything that involves an SGM and/or suspensions and/or pretty much anything more serious than a slap on the wrist goes on a permanent record.

It's right up there with welching on sports bets on the PC.

[JackWhisper]

They don't.

I have asked about this at length.

Warnings!
Your first - A simple warning. This can roll off.
Your second - A simple warning, and maybe a final warning for something. This can roll off.
Your third - A 1 day suspension, either for 'cooling off' or minor infractions. This can roll off.
Your fourth - A 3 day suspension. Anything BEYOND this... *WILL NOT ROLL OFF*
1/3/7/30 day suspensions and then permaban. There may be 15/60 days, but I've never seen em.

I asked this because one of my friends got into a very large and heated debate that involved people murdering each other in Pinefar a year and change ago. Both characters involved got 1 day suspensions, and it would be a long time, but they were not permanent marks on the record.

Note: Your HISTORY is not the same as your record, and that never goes away. You can have 20 different violations on your history *which is tied to the ACCOUNT, and your character specifically*, but nothing on your record. One of my accounts from 2002 has ... probably eight? warnings on their history, for random stuff *You can call billing/email them for history to be sent your email* but nothing on their record that will effect an issue that would happen in 2015 or later, because it all happened so long ago.

[elcidcannon]

*You can call billing/email them for history to be sent your email* but nothing on their record that will effect an issue that would happen in 2015 or later, because it all happened so long ago.

So, reasonable-man-theory applies here? I'm shocked.

[JackWhisper]

The second you do something stupid enough to warrant a 3day+ suspension, it goes on your history, your record, and will never. ever. EVER. be removed. Ever. =(

[Whirlin]

So... 2x shield use, 0x dodge is a bad idea for a ranger.

1 Rank of Dodge without a shield .705DS in offensive
1 Rank of Dodge when using a buckler generates .55 DS in offensive
1 Rank of Shield use with a buckler generates .283 DS in offensive

Use of a shield generates 20 DS, while reducing every rank of evade by .15 DS and generating .283 DS.
While, this doesn't seem like it would matter... Mobility also grants Dodge ranks, so you rarely have 0 that you're using.

The only way that shield use really makes sense if it you have a surplus of PTP, and are not converting any to MTP, otherwise Evade is a better bet for rangers.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

all i have to say is

ehoaehoehoaehoaehhoae

[Latrinsorm]

So... 2x shield use, 0x dodge is a bad idea for a ranger.

1 Rank of Dodge without a shield .705DS in offensive
1 Rank of Dodge when using a buckler generates .55 DS in offensive
1 Rank of Shield use with a buckler generates .283 DS in offensive

Use of a shield generates 20 DS, while reducing every rank of evade by .15 DS and generating .283 DS.
While, this doesn't seem like it would matter... Mobility also grants Dodge ranks, so you rarely have 0 that you're using.

The only way that shield use really makes sense if it you have a surplus of PTP, and are not converting any to MTP, otherwise Evade is a better bet for rangers.I thought Rogane was an empath?

[Whirlin]

So... 2x shield use, 0x dodge is a bad idea for a ranger.

1 Rank of Dodge without a shield .705DS in offensive
1 Rank of Dodge when using a buckler generates .55 DS in offensive
1 Rank of Shield use with a buckler generates .283 DS in offensive

Use of a shield generates 20 DS, while reducing every rank of evade by .15 DS and generating .283 DS.
While, this doesn't seem like it would matter... Mobility also grants Dodge ranks, so you rarely have 0 that you're using.

The only way that shield use really makes sense if it you have a surplus of PTP, and are not converting any to MTP, otherwise Evade is a better bet for rangers.
How the fuck did I post this in such the wrong place? Sorry!

[Androidpk]

How the fuck did I post this in such the wrong place? Sorry!

You're high as fuck.

[Latrinsorm]

Babies in the oven, training advice in the merchant section, mass psychosis!!!

[Luftstreitkräfte]

let's say Rogane has 20m exp.. what would you be offering?

[Thondalar]

Babies in the oven, training advice in the merchant section, mass psychosis!!!

Caused by marijuana, no doubt.

[Thondalar]

It's right up there with welching on sports bets on the PC.

Huh?

[Warriorbird]

Huh?

You got brought up on Lnet the other day for failing to pay people back for sports bets made years ago.

[Thondalar]

You got brought up on Lnet the other day for failing to pay people back for sports bets made years ago.

That was a "bet" made on lnet that was never a bet...actually I think it was on psinet. Nothing to do with PC.

Only like...three people ever bring that up still, and oddly enough, none of them had anything to do with the initial scenario.

[JackWhisper]

Is he altering the log? Because, as it stands, it really looks like you made the bet. If he's altering the log though.... all bets are off. #Sunglasses

[Warriorbird]

That was a "bet" made on lnet that was never a bet...actually I think it was on psinet. Nothing to do with PC.

Only like...three people ever bring that up still, and oddly enough, none of them had anything to do with the initial scenario.

Maliku/Kreek was the person you bet with, unless you're referring to your Hoy situation. It's telling when you take money for bets you won but bets you didn't "aren't really bets."


Is he altering the log? Because, as it stands, it really looks like you made the bet. If he's altering the log though.... all bets are off. #Sunglasses

He might be an ass (frequently) but I've known him a long time. I doubt he'd alter anything.

[WRoss]

Maliku/Kreek was the person you bet with, unless you're referring to your Hoy situation. It's telling when you take money for bets you won but bets you didn't "aren't really bets."



He might be an ass (frequently) but I've known him a long time. I doubt he'd alter anything.

On top of that. I'm in that log and offered to take the bet, but Kreek got to it before me. It was a bet. He's just being a little wuss and won't pay up.

[Donquix]

Go home Whirlin, you're drunk.

[Thondalar]

Maliku/Kreek was the person you bet with, unless you're referring to your Hoy situation. It's telling when you take money for bets you won but bets you didn't "aren't really bets."

I'm talking about the Maliku scenario. As far as I know I don't have any outstanding debts with Hoy. (edit: or anyone else, for that matter) I made a passing comment in chat about "I would bet" and Maliku took it as an agreed-upon bet. I never agreed to anything formally, it was just talking shit.

[Thondalar]

I wipe my ass with a million silvers, you really think I would still, to this day, defy that ONE trash bet when I've paid and received so many others before and since? Come on, use your logic.

[Gelston]

I wipe my ass with a million silvers, you really think I would still, to this day, defy that ONE trash bet when I've paid and received so many others before and since? Come on, use your logic.

Then why didn't you just pay it so people wouldn't bug you about it?

[Tgo01]

Then why didn't you just pay it so people wouldn't bug you about it?

I bet Thondalar a million silvers you would say that.

[JackWhisper]

I bet Thondalar a million silvers you would say that.

I bet Thondalar a million silvers that you'd say you bet him a million silvers he'd say that.

[Thondalar]

Then why didn't you just pay it so people wouldn't bug you about it?

Principle.

[Latrinsorm]

I have a lot of criticisms of Thondalar, but you have to give him this much: the man takes a hard line on his toilet paper.

[Warriorbird]

Principle.

You didn't pay a bet because of principle? That's pretty much the only reason Rhett cares you didn't. Dude makes far more than I ever will.

[Androidpk]

I have a lot of criticisms of Thondalar, but you have to give him this much: the man takes a hard line on his toilet paper.

So he should eat more fiber?

[Latrinsorm]

It's explicitly implied in the Tenth Amendment that the government can't regulate our fiber intake.

[Androidpk]

You obviously haven't watched Sesame Street lately.

[Jhynnifer]

How did we get on the subject of that stupid bet and gloss over the possible hilarity that might ensue from IW having Rogane?

[Taernath]

You obviously haven't watched Sesame Street lately.

I stopped after they killed off Khal Elmo.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-04/6/17/enhanced/webdr14/anigif_enhanced-9247-1428355640-4.gif

[WRoss]

How did we get on the subject of that stupid bet and gloss over the possible hilarity that might ensue from IW having Rogane?

nvm

[elcidcannon]

Principle.

Which, in this case, is just a cheap cop-out way of saying "I don't want to."

[Thondalar]

You didn't pay a bet because of principle? That's pretty much the only reason Rhett cares you didn't. Dude makes far more than I ever will.

I didn't pay it initially because it was never a bet. I won't pay it now because of principle.

[Gelston]

I didn't pay it initially because it was never a bet. I won't pay it now because of principle.

Well, accept when you actually said the word bet with a monetary amount.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

You got brought up on Lnet the other day for failing to pay people back for sports bets made years ago.

Thondalar has still not paid Kreek back and has absolutely ZERO credibility when it comes to sports betting either on this forum, on lnet or on planet earth in general.

[Tgo01]

I haven't read this bet log but to be fair to Thondalar if I were to say "I'd bet a million dollars the Raiders are going to the Superbowl this year" and someone said "I'll take that bet!" I would hope they wouldn't think I was being serious.

Wording and context is everything :O

Does anyone have this log?

[Gelston]

I haven't read this bet log but to be fair to Thondalar if I were to say "I'd bet a million dollars the Raiders are going to the Superbowl this year" and someone said "I'll take that bet!" I would hope they wouldn't think I was being serious.

Wording and context is everything :O

Does anyone have this log?

A million dollars and a million silvers are far and away two different things. It'd be more like you saying you'd bet $10.

[WRoss]

You hear the faint thoughts of [LNet]-GSIV:Malkarra echo in your mind:
"1m silvers Gators beat LSU straight up, no points, first one to call it gets it" (9:13:09 PM)

You hear the faint thoughts of [LNet]-You echo in your mind:
"I got it." (9:13:26 PM)

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?66380-Do-not-take-bets-from-Malkarra-Valgren&highlight=obilian

[Gelston]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?66380-Do-not-take-bets-from-Malkarra-Valgren&highlight=obilian

Yep. Very clearly a bet and not a joke.

[Tgo01]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?66380-Do-not-take-bets-from-Malkarra-Valgren&highlight=obilian

Yeah okay, I take back my previous statement, that sounds more like it was a legit bet and not just shit talking :/