View Full Version : Slick Willie O'Reilly.
Wezas
10-15-2004, 05:05 PM
Since I haven't seen anyone here mention it (I know the news is a few days old) - I thought I'd throw up a link and let people read about his situation.
Defendant O'Reilly further suggested that Plaintiff Andrea Mackris purchase a vibrator. When Plaintiff became embarrassed and told him she was not interested, O'Reilly again suggested: "We should do it together, I could coach you through it". Plaintiff declined.
http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html
When O'Reilly lied nobody... no, wait...
Keller
10-15-2004, 05:09 PM
haha... and he's being aggressive and filing a defamation suit against her. Smart move on his part, especially if he is guilty. Get the blame on her asap.
Wezas
10-15-2004, 05:19 PM
During the course of Defendant Bill O'Reilly's sexual rant, it became clear that he was using a vibrator upon himself, and that he ejaculated. Plaintiff was repulsed.
ew.
I want to see if there's actually tapes.
Kitsun
10-15-2004, 05:40 PM
Actually I think O'Reilly had a preemptive suit based on extortion because she was seeking hush money.
The accusations are really pretty nasty. I really would need to hear the tapes to believe it because they're so fucking far out there.
One thing that really weakens her case was that she worked at Fox and with O'Reilly for a while, then quit and worked at a different station, THEN asked for her job back at Fox. The harassment went on before she left and after. Why would she go back to a workplace she felt threatened?
Her original goal was $600 million which was worked down to 60 million... and thats still an atrocious amount given the fact that she even admits there was never any physical contact between the two. I'll let anyone verbally assault my ass for a few months for a quarter of that amount.
Keller
10-15-2004, 06:10 PM
O'Reilly said it was partially due to partisan politics ... someone she knows works for the Kerry campaign.
But, isn't O'Reilly the fair and balanced, no-spin, anchor?
Wezas
10-15-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Keller
O'Reilly said it was partially due to partisan politics ... someone she knows works for the Kerry campaign.
But, isn't O'Reilly the fair and balanced, no-spin, anchor?
Doh? I was listening to him today and grew disgusted that he's hawking a book called "O'Reilly Factor for Kids".
He lays bare the unvarnished truths about sex, money, smoking, drugs, alcohol, and friends. What he has to say about these issues may very well surprise you. He offers coping devices for those enduring a divorce, struggling with teacher, parent, or sibling relationships, and planning their futures. He also shares wisdom on such subjects as death, politics, and God.
Just what we need, O'Reilly teaching our kids about politics. I'd much rather my kids make up their own mind (though my Republican mom is probably wishing she gave me that book now)
Latrinsorm
10-15-2004, 07:41 PM
Assuming for the moment that this article is a bit lacking in the truth area, O'Reilly isn't that bad. Am I the only one that saw him on the Daily Show?
Keller
10-15-2004, 09:08 PM
I had to work the night he was on the daily show. I was pissed. I feel that he has realized he was a conservative blowhard and is now trying to reform his image.
What have his ratings been like recently? Like, the past years monthly averages? Is there a specific website I can go to for that?
Chelle
10-15-2004, 09:16 PM
I watch O'Reilly a lot. I think he is far too intelligent to do something like this. I mean, he is a media person, he has seen first hand what something like this can do to a persons life, let alone a career. Maybe the woman knew this, as well which is why she wanted to keep it hush hush at first. I don't know it all seems pretty strange and far out there. I await the tapes myself.
Warriorbird
10-15-2004, 10:21 PM
Eh. My cousin was the Republican Speaker of the House of Delagates in Virginia. He was arguably one of the most powerful politicians in the state. He brought down a governor.
He was one of the savviest politicians I've ever met.
Now he's nothing.
Sex is a pretty damn powerful force.
Wezas
10-19-2004, 12:46 AM
A fark.com photoshop of what people think Bill O'Reilly's new book cover will look like:
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1169296
4a6c1
10-19-2004, 12:48 AM
As with most political things in the news, this issue had me laughing so hard.
I haven't been a fan of O"Reilly but I haven't watched in over a year. I did see him on the daily show and was surprised how well he came across.
Who knows if O'Reilly is guilty of course if your name is Ted Kennedy, William Kennedy Smith or Bill Clinton you can commit all the sexual assault you want and get away with it. If your name is Ted Kennedy you can murder a girl in a drunken car accident as well. I wonder if NOW and the other feminist groups will be as silent as they were for Bill Kennedy Smith's trial?
[Edited on 10-19-2004 by xtc]
Just did a search seems William Kennedy Smith has been accussed of rape yet again, seems those Kennedy's just don't like following the law. I guess what can you expect since the lousy clan made their money under old Joe Kennedy who was a bootlegger during prohibition. Why follow the law when you're a Kennedy you have a get out of jail free card.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/08/26/world/kennedy040826
Cayge
10-19-2004, 09:57 AM
Regardless if it has been said before, I will reitirate. Bill O' Reilly is a psychotic nazi infidel pigdog. He is the most biased, narrow minded pathetic ranting buffoon allowed on national TV [which fits perfectly with his employer, I might add]. His self-righteousness nauseates the piss out of me and I hope he has to pay out of his god fearing, venom spewing ass for this little mistake.
Allycat
10-19-2004, 10:07 AM
Wow... and I thought I was having a bad morning Cayge...
I personally watch O'Reilly almost every night. I don't particularly agree with everything he says but I think he's a straight forward person and I don't believe the accusations.
Lastly, I am going to buy the book he has written for children, read it myself and if it's all good, I'm going to give it to my daughter. :)
Ilvane
10-19-2004, 10:18 AM
xtc WTF does William Kennedy Smith have to do with O'Reilly?
:wtf:
-A
Myshel
10-19-2004, 10:18 AM
I'll wait until the tapes come out, which if she had the balls to file suit she probably has.
Parkbandit
10-19-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Cayge
Regardless if it has been said before, I will reitirate. Bill O' Reilly is a psychotic nazi infidel pigdog. He is the most biased, narrow minded pathetic ranting buffoon allowed on national TV [which fits perfectly with his employer, I might add]. His self-righteousness nauseates the piss out of me and I hope he has to pay out of his god fearing, venom spewing ass for this little mistake.
Am I the only one that reads your posts in the voice of the Cobra Commander?
Also.. when you post stuff like this.. it would give it more clout if you ended with:
COOOOBRA!
The real question is... will all of this sex scandal really smear his image one iota?
My guess is no. In fact, it may give him a ratings boost if anything.
Betheny
10-19-2004, 10:29 AM
She's suing him over that?
Wtf, people are too sensitive. She really does need to get laid.
Parkbandit
10-19-2004, 10:35 AM
The great part of harassment is that you have to make sure you are clear that the actions are unwelcome. Unless she has it on take saying "Bill, I would rather you didn't speak to me that way because it makes me uncomfortable" then she has shit for a case.
I'm sure there are tapes though.. she wouldn't have tried to extort money from him if there weren't.
Betheny
10-19-2004, 10:36 AM
Fuck that, women need to get over it. Seriously, can't take a joke? You need to live in a cage with other uptight people. Christ.
Ilvane
10-19-2004, 11:23 AM
I don't think it was a joke..but you can see what she said on the smoking gun.
This is one of them, kinda sick if you ask me. He reminds me of a sleazy old man..Ewww.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris9.html
-A
Myshel
10-19-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Maimara
She's suing him over that?
Wtf, people are too sensitive. She really does need to get laid.
Are you freaking serious? As someone who was sexually harrassed by someone who power over me and my job, its a humiliating and powerless position to be in. In my case I tried to live with it, because not doing so would mean I would lose a job that I made great money at and other than the harrassment, I liked a lot. When I finally was almost raped and complained it was ME who got fired. This was before you could take legal action. I applaud the women who took the risk and made sexual harrassment charges, they have made the difference in how women are treated in the workplace today. Its not easy, because even if she walks away a winner with fat pockets her name is smeared and believe me her career is finished.
longshot
10-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Chelle
I watch O'Reilly a lot. I think he is far too intelligent to do something like this. I mean, he is a media person, he has seen first hand what something like this can do to a persons life, let alone a career. Maybe the woman knew this, as well which is why she wanted to keep it hush hush at first. I don't know it all seems pretty strange and far out there. I await the tapes myself.
Were you trying to be funny, because what you wrote was hilarious.
Read it again. Go ahead...
longshot
10-19-2004, 11:32 AM
The sad thing about this is that he had to cancel all his show appearances, including one on Real Time with Bill Mahrer...
I was really looking forward to it.
Myshel
10-19-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Myshel
Originally posted by Maimara
She's suing him over that?
Wtf, people are too sensitive. She really does need to get laid.
Are you freaking serious? As someone who was sexually harrassed by someone who power over me and my job, its a humiliating and powerless position to be in. In my case I tried to live with it, because not doing so would mean I would lose a job that I made great money at and other than the harrassment, I liked a lot. When I finally was almost raped and complained it was ME who got fired. This was before you could take legal action. I applaud the women who took the risk and made sexual harrassment charges, they have made the difference in how women are treated in the workplace today. Its not easy, because even if she walks away a winner with fat pockets her name is smeared and believe me her career is finished.
oh btw, being pawed, molested and groped by a 50 year old man with bad breath and pot belly is not a fond memory for my 20 year old self. Losing a great job wasn't either particularly when he made it look like I was fired for stealing.
Originally posted by Ilvane
xtc WTF does William Kennedy Smith have to do with O'Reilly?
:wtf:
-A
My point is that if O"Reilly is guilty or not the media will jump all over this and feminist groups will be in court during the trial. But when a member of the elite left does the same there is silence.
Warriorbird
10-19-2004, 12:07 PM
You're not being very silent. Neither have others... for a long damn time. Wtf was the whole Monica Lewinsky nonsense? I mean. Be serious now.
I never heard a single feminist organisation up in arms when Kennedy Smith was arrested, nor any up in arms when he said "she wanted it"
Years before the Clinton/Lewinsky thing there were accusations of sexual assault to Clinton. Where were the feminist groups then? I believe one women, who said Clinton assaulted her, was a recent widow. If I recall correctly before the Lewinsky thing most media attacked Paula Jones credibilty. Two standards and who really loses? The women assaulted.
Chelle
10-19-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by xtc
I never heard a single feminist organisation up in arms when Kennedy Smith was arrested, nor any up in arms when he said "she wanted it"
Years before the Clinton/Lewinsky thing there were accusations of sexual assault to Clinton. Where were the feminist groups then? I believe one women, who said Clinton assaulted her, was a recent widow. If I recall correctly before the Lewinsky thing most media attacked Paula Jones credibilty. Two standards and who really loses? The women assaulted.
:clap:
What he said.
Wezas
10-19-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by xtc
I never heard a single feminist organisation up in arms when Kennedy Smith was arrested, nor any up in arms when he said "she wanted it"
I'm sorry, but have you researched that? Because Bill O'Reilly is a bigger name then Kennedy Smith means that he's going to get more press. Just because he gets more press doesn't mean the feminist groups weren't upset about the Kennedy Smith situation.
You telling me NOW didn't voice their concerns about that rape trial?
NOW didn't squeak a peep during the Kennedy rape trial
There were enough regular people who were up in arms about that situation. Clinton/Lewinsky---she was not an unwilling participant and that may have made it a bit harder for people to feel sympathy for her. There were plenty of people up in arms regardless.
Originally posted by DarkelfVold
There were enough regular people who were up in arms about that situation. Clinton/Lewinsky---she was not an unwilling participant and that may have made it a bit harder for people to feel sympathy for her. There were plenty of people up in arms regardless.
Yes but before his first time elected to President there were accusation of sexual assault. what was that 1993? Yes Lewinsky was a willing participant. It took her for people to finally open their eyes.
There are powerful men in this country that can make or break a political figures career. They can easily determine if they will support your political aims or not. And you say, 'where were the feminist groups'. I say to that where were the men who allowed a man accused of sexual assult to be elected president in the first place.
Originally posted by DarkelfVold
There are powerful men in this country that can make or break a political figures career. They can easily determine if they will support your political aims or not. And you say, 'where were the feminist groups'. I say to that where were the men who allowed a man accused of sexual assult to be elected president in the first place.
Men and women were silent. Feminist groups were hijacked years ago by those on the far left.
Originally posted by xtc
Feminist groups were hijacked years ago by those on the far left. Hijacked...no. You will find extremities in any organization such as these. The movement is alive and well, as it has become more individualistic than anything. The IWF shows a different side of the picture.
NOW has always been uber liberal right next to Marx and Engle.
You would think there website was created by Michael Moore.
http://www.now.org/
I don't know a lot about the IWF except they are suppose to be more balanced then NOW. The IWF website is down so I can't check it out.
Originally posted by xtc
NOW has always been uber liberal with shrines to Marx and Engle.
You would think their website was created by Michael Moore.
http://www.now.org/
I don't know a lot about the IWF except they are suppose to be more balanced then NOW. The IWF website is down so I can't check it out.
I would consider the IWF far right. NOW far left. There are millions of feminists around the world to consider as well who are not apart of these groups. They range very widely in their views.
NOW is the most well known and the most vocal, under Clinton the one with the most influence in the beltway.
Wezas
10-19-2004, 01:42 PM
The plot thickens (as says the unbias ny daily news :wasntme: ) :
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/243876p-208987c.html
Originally posted by xtc
NOW is the most well known and the most vocal, under Clinton the one with the most influence in the beltway. There was nothing stopping the IWF from stealing the limelight and highlighting Clinton's indecencies either.
There were feminists who spoke out. "Time magazine columnist Barbara Ehrenreich was making noise a long time ago. As one of the only feminists to criticize the president when Paula Jones' accusations first surfaced, Ehrenreich has consistently gone on the record deploring Clinton's behavior toward women and decrying the sexually charged atmosphere at the White House."
There was a double standard when it came to Clinton which I recognize. It's called Politics. They supported him getting elected because he agreed with many of their goals. When the shit hit the fan, the most vocal were silent. The most powerful men were silent. However, not everyone was and that's my point.
Who claimed she was in league with Kerry’s camp? Talk about outrageous conspiracies... O’Riely isn’t running for president. Hilarious.
Originally posted by Wezas
The plot thickens (as says the unbias ny daily news :wasntme: ) :
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/243876p-208987c.html
Yeah, if this is true it looks like what O'Reilly was saying about a shake down was true.
Ilvane
10-19-2004, 03:39 PM
Yah, right!! What kind of bull is the NYDaily News trying to pull?
Give me a break.
O'Reilly if he did what she said is sleazy. If she is lying, she is sleazy. It doesn't matter if she was sweet on him or not..even if she was, he had no right to sexually harass her if she didn't want it. It's not an issue of whether she liked the guy or not, it's about his inappropriate behavior.
As for the Kerry thing, I don't know, but it is not related to Kerry. God, and if someone is suggesting this, the conservatives are getting desperate.
Originally posted by Ilvane
Yah, right!! What kind of bull is the NYDaily News trying to pull?
Give me a break.
O'Reilly if he did what she said is sleazy. If she is lying, she is sleazy. It doesn't matter if she was sweet on him or not..even if she was, he had no right to sexually harass her if she didn't want it. It's not an issue of whether she liked the guy or not, it's about his inappropriate behavior.
As for the Kerry thing, I don't know, but it is not related to Kerry. God, and if someone is suggesting this, the conservatives are getting desperate.
The question is did she want the sleazy talk and did she participate in it? IF she is a willing participant in it then it isn't harassment
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