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Liberi Fatali
10-13-2004, 11:20 PM
Brought to you by Jenovadeath's vault of Godly logs:

SEND[Kennesaw] I'd like to have a word with you. Would you have a moment?
Please REPORT your answer.


>report <cower> Okay, sure... I'm available.
REPORT should only be used to notify the GemStone III staff of emergency
situations or gamewide technical errors. Please use ASSIST for general
support.


Message sent to all online game staff. While no staff members are currently
on duty, there are likely to be several lurking behind the scenes to
investigate your report. If you feel the need to speak with the staff,
please type ASSIST for a list of options.

>

Jenovadeath just appeared.
You feel yourself being pulled away...
[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed
respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush
chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none.

>
Small sparkles of light swarm from all around you, forming a large spinning
golden sphere. You see a form take shape at the center as the ball slows
down to a stop. The blinding light fades to reveal GameMaster Kennesaw
scratching his head, looking slightly bewildered.

>cower
Kennesaw says, "Morning"
>
You cower.
>'Hey.
You say, "Hey."
>
Kennesaw says, "It seems you have sent a letter to one of my staff members"
>
Kennesaw says, "that was, shall we say, rude"
>
You feel at full magical power again.
>
* Raccan just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw asks, "are you familiar with this letter?"
>
* Anodine just bit the dust!
>l
[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed
respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush
chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Also in the room: GameMaster Kennesaw
Obvious exits: none.
>'Indeed I am.
You say, "Indeed I am."
>'Rude it was not, however. Truthful it was.
You say, "Rude it was not, however. Truthful it was."
>
Kennesaw says, "I'll be blunt Jenova"
>
* Lokujin just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "should you *ever*"
>
Kennesaw says, "and I mean *ever*"
>
Kennesaw says, "call one of my staff members a piece of shit"
>
* Graysalin just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "even using other words"
>'Oh my.
You say, "Oh my."
>
* Teclys just bit the dust!
>'I said NOTHING even relatively close to that.
You say, "I said NOTHING even relatively close to that."
>
Kennesaw says, "you will no longer be able to use that product - I will
remove you"
>
Kennesaw says, "I believe that you are nothing more than a"
>
Kennesaw says, "malodorous pile of braised trake offal. "
>
Kennesaw says, "(And a horrible mod to boot.)"
>'How do you figure that as me saying a cuss word?
You ask, "How do you figure that as me saying a cuss word?"
>
Kennesaw says, "that's a direct quote from the letter"
>
Kennesaw says, "I'm educated"
>'Quite frankly, I'm insulted that you used that word in front of me.
You say, "Quite frankly, I'm insulted that you used that word in front of
me."
>'If I wanted to be "blunt," I'd of come out and said it.
You say, "If I wanted to be "blunt," I'd of come out and said it."
>
Kennesaw says, "You're welcome to be Jenova - I'm as insulted that you
called
my staff member such"
>
* Kimmurial just bit the dust!
'What does what I said in an E-mail have to do with anything in Gemstone?
>You ask, "What does what I said in an E-mail have to do with anything in
Gemstone?"
>'I pay AOL for my e-mail service, not you.
Kennesaw says, "simply put - it's about the game, to one of my staff
members"
>
You say, "I pay AOL for my e-mail service, not you."
>'No sir, it was not. It's about a message on a message board.
You say, "No sir, it was not. It's about a message on a message board."
>
Kennesaw says, "I'd be happy to pass it on to TOS if you wish"
>
* Kalidor just bit the dust!
>
* Vythann just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "it's unacceptable Jenovadeath"
>'I'm sorry but the receiver did not have AOL, doing so will do nothing.
You say, "I'm sorry but the receiver did not have AOL, doing so will do
nothing."
>
Kennesaw says, "plain and simple"
>
Kennesaw shrugs.
>
* Kolmar just bit the dust!
>'...There's no need for that.
You say, "...There's no need for that."
>
Kennesaw says, "I'm going to be requesting your removal from our boards"
>
Kennesaw says, "you're right - there's no need for it"
>
* Haldene just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "if you were in game, you would be removed from the game for
saying the same thing"
>
Kennesaw says, "e-mail is no different, since we have established that you
are the owner of the statement"
>'I believe Tabor was the owner of that statement, not Jenovadeath.
You say, "I believe Tabor was the owner of that statement, not Jenovadeath."
>'I don't pay for Tabor. I pay for Jenovadeath.
You say, "I don't pay for Tabor. I pay for Jenovadeath."
>'And I do believe outside of Gemstone I do indeed have the freedom of
>speech.
You say, "And I do believe outside of Gemstone I do indeed have the freedom
of speech."
>
Kennesaw says, "it originated from and about your account"
>
Kennesaw says, "not to harass my staff"
>'Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant, then.
You say, "Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant, then."
>
* Sargien just bit the dust!
>'And I'm still disturbed that you used such language in front of me.
Kennesaw says, "I'm well aware of the definition of Offal"
You say, "And I'm still disturbed that you used such language in front of
me."
>
Kennesaw says, "then you are quite welcome to complain about it to feedback"
>'What would that do?
You ask, "What would that do?"
>
* Nitezor just bit the dust!
>'You'd probably read it anyway.
You say, "You'd probably read it anyway."
>
* Heavenmoon just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "While you may protest a post being removed"
>
Kennesaw says, "That kind of attack will not be tolerated"
>
Kennesaw says, "whether it's in direct email to me or my staff"
>
Kennesaw says, "or on the boards"
>
Kennesaw says, "or in game"
>
* Zoellina just bit the dust!
>'This incident did not happen in the game, did it, Kennesaw?
You ask, "This incident did not happen in the game, did it, Kennesaw?"
>
Kennesaw says, "You're welcome to complain about that to feedback as well
Jenova"
>
* Esq just bit the dust!
>
Kennesaw says, "as long as we're clear"
>
Kennesaw says, "that you no longer do something like this to my staff any
further"
>'I'm not complaining about anything other than the fact that this
>discussion
is not needed.
You say, "I'm not complaining about anything other than the fact that this
discussion is not needed."
>'If you wanted to tell me such information, you do so through e-mail.
You say, "If you wanted to tell me such information, you do so through
e-mail."
>'Jenovadeath had no part of this, and you know that.
You say, "Jenovadeath had no part of this, and you know that."
>
Kennesaw says, "You, the player, did"
>'I am not a player. I am a fantasy character.
You say, "I am not a player. I am a fantasy character."
>'If you wish to speak to my player, you do so through e-mail.
You say, "If you wish to speak to my player, you do so through e-mail."
>'It doesn't get much more clearer than that.
You say, "It doesn't get much more clearer than that."
>'Had I, Jenovadeath, said such a thing, then I could see a reason for this.
You say, "Had I, Jenovadeath, said such a thing, then I could see a reason
for this."
>
Kennesaw says, "It doesn't get any more clear that if you, the player, do
this again"
>
Kennesaw says, "I will be forced to request removal of your access"
>
Kennesaw asks, "do you, the player, understand this?"
>'I've done nothing wrong.
You say, "I've done nothing wrong."
>
Kennesaw says, "I'll take that as assent of your understanding Jenova"
>
Kennesaw says, "I beg to differ"
>
Kennesaw says, "good day to you"
>

The world grows blurry and indistinct. After a moment everything becomes
clear again. Looking about, you see...
[Breach, Cavern of Ages]
The chamber's walls are modulated with the same large recesses that pocket
the walls of the chamber to the north. Inside each, the red stone is
polished to an indulgent surface that highlights the striations in the rock.
On the cavern's eastern wall however, something went horribly wrong. The
undulating niches are blasted into shambles around a central oval just
behind
a golden pedestal. There, the rock looks like it has melted, running down
the side of the cavern in eddies of molten stone. You also see a golden
pedestal with a nebulous sphere hovering above it.
Obvious exits: north.

Dhuul
10-13-2004, 11:24 PM
that long of an interaction and he still didn't send your lame-name ass to LCI?

hectomaner
10-13-2004, 11:25 PM
what an ass hole (kennesaw, not you)

CrystalTears
10-13-2004, 11:28 PM
How is he an asshole for defending his staff from getting rude emails?

Jenisi
10-13-2004, 11:34 PM
It's exactly how Tabor explained it, Kennesaw brought it in game. This defiantly should have been brought to attention through e-mails. And apparently Kennesaw doesn't understand that in a business you do NOT talk to customer's in that fashion. A e-mail sent by a player should not be brought in game. Very simple. And using curse words is very unacceptable as well as threatening his player.



[Edited on 10-14-2004 by Jenisi]

10-13-2004, 11:38 PM
JD was right and Kennesaw was being a dipshit.

- Arkans

10-13-2004, 11:39 PM
Kennesaw was the biggest fucking douchebag of what would be a GM there ever was. The only bigger douch would be certain Simu Canadian internet police staff member that worked with him IG and bent over to take it up the ass from Kennesaw's little p-p.

Makkah
10-13-2004, 11:40 PM
Um... the PLAYER (Tabor) still PAYS to play a game that SIMU offers. TABOR writing an Email to a SIMU employee can have the consequence of TABOR not getting to play as JENOVADEATH anymore. Sounds like you were just throwing a temper tantrum and got called out to me. Then you further tried to crawl out of it by misconstruing the situation...

All in all... a good laugh at your expense.

rht

CrystalTears
10-13-2004, 11:41 PM
Granted, he worded that badly, but I still don't see why he can't confront him in the game when it was concerning the game and possibly costing him the right to play in said game.

I think they were both on a powertrip, IMO.

10-13-2004, 11:44 PM
Isn't it strange when 7 guests viewing this page mysteriously vanish?

HouseofElves
10-13-2004, 11:47 PM
Dear Tabor,

Please let me have your children so they can take over Simu and make it not allow assholes on staff.

Thx.

<3

Me

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 12:00 AM
In case you were wondering, that log was from 8/05/02. The next day I was banned for a YEAR from the boards -- so punishment was taken. Needless to say, I've never e-mailed anyone on the boards since.

Tabor.

Makkah
10-14-2004, 12:01 AM
Lesson learned. That's good to see at least.


rht

Tsa`ah
10-14-2004, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Jenisi
It's exactly how Tabor explained it, Kennesaw brought it in game. This defiantly should have been brought to attention through e-mails. And apparently Kennesaw doesn't understand that in a business you do NOT talk to customer's in that fashion. A e-mail sent by a player should not be brought in game. Very simple. And using curse words is very unacceptable as well as threatening his player.

Kennesaw didn't bring anything "in game". He pulled the offender "from" the game to a lounge. The boards, much like the game, are a product.

I didn't like Kennesaw either but he went a bit too easy on him in my opinion.

Drew2
10-14-2004, 05:49 AM
Which staff member did you call a POS?

Nieninque
10-14-2004, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Granted, he worded that badly, but I still don't see why he can't confront him in the game when it was concerning the game and possibly costing him the right to play in said game.

I think they were both on a powertrip, IMO.

:yeahthat:

Edited to add, it still wasnt a godly log.
You are letting us down here.

[Edited on 14-10-04 by Nieninque]

Warriorbird
10-14-2004, 10:46 AM
Yeah. We're curious about the letter now.

hectomaner
10-14-2004, 12:55 PM
kennesaw's actions were malicous PvP, CLEARLY in violation of the TOS. he should have had to be made to read the policy

10-14-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Tabor
Brought to you by Jenovadeath's vault of Godly logs:

Kennesaw says, "if you were in game, you would be removed from the game for
saying the same thing"


You would not be removed from the game for saying "malodorous pile of offal" or whatever it was.

Tsa`ah
10-14-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by hectomaner
kennesaw's actions were malicous PvP, CLEARLY in violation of the TOS. he should have had to be made to read the policy

Huh?

You're not the brightest candle in the menorah are you?

Where was the PVP? I didn't see any combat nor did I see any GM insta damage/death. And wouldn't that be GMvP? Not mentioned in TOS.

Have you actually read the GS TOS?

Kennesaw didn't violate a damn thing. He didn't over step his authority.

The only thing he is guilty of in that log is being a jackass. He's been a bigger jackass in the past so I'll stick with the "he got off lightly" opinion.

Buddy ... you need meds or more education.

hectomaner
10-14-2004, 01:03 PM
step back, take a breath, pull the stick out of your ass

it was a JOKE

Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.

[Edited on 10-14-2004 by hectomaner]

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 01:07 PM
How about you help readers out by putting in some sort of smilie or something along those lines to know it was a joke in the first place?

Considering you've said bonehead things before, it was reasonable to assume you were being a bonehead again.

Tsa`ah
10-14-2004, 01:07 PM
Perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with the stick in your ass that you so conveniently ignore. Even better, don't try to play a post off as humor when you have no grasp of the concept.

It's just a cruel joke of fate that the stupid people live longer I guess.

hectomaner
10-14-2004, 01:09 PM
so i'm not allowed to make jokes? is that what you are trying to tell me?

btw. FUCK YOU

Tsa`ah
10-14-2004, 01:10 PM
Sure, but where is the joke?


Oh ... I see it -------->Hectomaner<--------- Joke

Drew
10-14-2004, 01:23 PM
kennesaw's actions were malicous PvP, CLEARLY in violation of the TOS. he should have had to be made to read the policy

Which part of that wasn't very obviously sarcasm? I don't get why you guys are so up in arms, it's patently a joke.

Blazing247
10-14-2004, 01:28 PM
I read it as a joke, too. Then again, the two people arguing about it aren't exactly a plethora of humor to begin with.

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 01:29 PM
What I do?? I'm not humorous? Le :cry:

Trinitis
10-14-2004, 01:32 PM
I'll have you know CT is a very funny person. Even moreso when you get her flustered ;)

Blazing247
10-14-2004, 01:34 PM
I am sorry. I stand corrected- you are as funny as monkey sex CT. Which, BTW, is pretty fucking funny.

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 01:36 PM
:fu:

Blazing247
10-14-2004, 01:41 PM
The middle finger? :cry:

Can we have make up sex and leave this anger behind us?

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 01:46 PM
OOK! :hug2:

Err.. to stay on topic... Kennesaw should have kicked his ass. :D

[Edited on 10/14/2004 by CrystalTears]

Sean
10-14-2004, 02:05 PM
I don't like kennesaw by any means as I've had my own negative encounters with him. But I think Tabor/Jenova was just being a schmuck both in his emails and in his trying to double talk kennesaw. You deserve everything you get. But I might be biased because I generally think Jenovadeath is a waste of space on the simu servers.

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Tijay
I don't like kennesaw by any means as I've had my own negative encounters with him. But I think Tabor/Jenova was just being a schmuck both in his emails and in his trying to double talk kennesaw. You deserve everything you get. But I might be biased because I generally think Jenovadeath is a waste of space on the simu servers.

Hmm, someone must have had his ass handed to him back in my powerhunting days. I'm sorry you feel that way. I look foward to bumping into Tijay the next time I'm logged in to see if you take this ignorant drivel into the game -- seeing as though we don't know each other, I don't expect anything other than cheerfulness to come out of that shrewd mouth.

Oh yes, I brought it. I put it on the table, and I opened it, BITCH.

Hoho.

Tabor.

DeV
10-14-2004, 02:38 PM
I bet you've never done anything like that again. Powertripping, perhaps. Lesson learned I'm sure.

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Tayre
Which staff member did you call a POS?

I'm pretty sure it was GM OAFion. I think he was the old Cleric guru. He was the fat Chinese guy that made the change to the fogging spell (130). For those oblivious, it used to automatically take you to one specific location every time, with no induced roundtime.

After he OAFED around with it, well, you know what it does now.

He posted his lame reasoning for the change, which was due to a meteor. I asked him what the real reasoning behind it was, and he said, "To prevent idiots like you from abusing it." [Take note this was in an e-mail.]

I don't know, but that sounded like an attack to me. In which case I MOST ELOQUENTLY responded with something along the lines of:

Dear Oafian,

I believe that you are nothing more than a malodorous pile of braised trake offal.

Tabor.

P.S. You may wish to invest in a product called Slimfast, lest you wish to turn into a twisted amalgamation of flesh and other, less mentionable things, such as Tijay, Edaarin, and Blazingqueer.

Hoho. Well, most of that was true, at least.

Tabor.

Nieninque
10-14-2004, 02:52 PM
Then you deserved what you got

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Nieninque
Then you deserved what you got

I didn't 'get' anything.

I don't post these logs so I can debate the outcomes with you folks. I could care less what anyone thinks about me in game, or out of game. (Unless, of course, I know you in real life. <3 Angela.) I post them so you can read them, enjoy them, and perhaps laugh at them.

Tabor.

Nieninque
10-14-2004, 02:57 PM
You got banned from the boards
You deserved it

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 03:02 PM
And criticize them. You can't dictate how people will respond to your logs, so you'll just have to take the bad with the good and not argue with them on their right to do so.

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
And criticize them. You can't dictate how people will respond to your logs, so you'll just have to take the bad with the good and not argue with them on their right to do so.

Fair enough, I suppose.

Typically, I won't do the such. However, when someone such as Tijay, whom I've NEVER even encountered, hurls an insult at me -- damn right I'm going to respond.

Tabor.

Tsa`ah
10-14-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Tabor
I didn't 'get' anything.

I don't post these logs so I can debate the outcomes with you folks. I could care less what anyone thinks about me in game, or out of game. (Unless, of course, I know you in real life. <3 Angela.) I post them so you can read them, enjoy them, and perhaps laugh at them.

Tabor.

Then why bother posting?

You seem to be begging for attention.

SpunGirl
10-14-2004, 03:05 PM
I don't get the mentality that people have about "I'm paying for it!!!!!!!" People seem to think that just because they pay for a game that they can behave however they please and never suffer any consequences. If you went into Target and bought some stuff, and while you were signing your credit card slip you started screaming at the cashier about being offal or something, they'd kick you out. They wouldn't care that you were a paying customer.

That said, I don't think the email was THAT big of a deal (if it's what was represented on these boards).

-K

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Then why bother posting?

You seem to be begging for attention.

I don't want to beg for attention on a board that doesn't matter. I'll beg for attention in Gemstone, sure! But not here.

I started playing Gemstone III in 1996 (December), and I've logged every event (event meaning every log in session) since then. My purpose in posting these logs is to share some of the good ones with other people. It has nothing to do with attention. If that were so, I wouldn't post any of the negative logs (Such as the Kennesaw one).

Give me your characters name, and I can do a search and pull up a log from 1996-2000! Surely that has to interest some of you.

I have all these logs -- and I'm the only one that can enjoy them? I want other people to see them as well.

Tabor.

Xcalibur
10-14-2004, 03:11 PM
Cheap psychological defense is a big big fad here, don't mind him;)

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 03:15 PM
:stfu: X!

It always amuses me when people post things here and then say, "this place and what people here think doesn't matter to me". Why come here then? I don't mean that as a slam (although I should since the "people here don't matter" is a slam as far as I'm concerned). I don't understand that at all.

[Edited on 10/14/2004 by CrystalTears]

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears

It always amuses me when people post things here and then say, "this place and what people here thing doesn't matter to me". Why come here then? I don't understand that at all.

What the. I don't know if this ignorant drivel is in reference to me, or not. It's barely readable, let alone comprehendable. If it WAS directed at me, I JUST got done explaining why I come here and why I post.

Tabor.

CrystalTears
10-14-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Tabor
I don't want to beg for attention on a board that doesn't matter. I'll beg for attention in Gemstone, sure! But not here.

Just going by your words, buddy.

Nieninque
10-14-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Tabor

Originally posted by CrystalTears

It always amuses me when people post things here and then say, "this place and what people here thing doesn't matter to me". Why come here then? I don't understand that at all.

What the. I don't know if this ignorant drivel is in reference to me, or not. It's barely readable, let alone comprehendable. If it WAS directed at me, I JUST got done explaining why I come here and why I post.

Tabor.

Public service...a wonderful thing

Liberi Fatali
10-14-2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears

Just going by your words, buddy.

Heh, I honestly don't know what to tell you. I told you why I come here. I told you why I post.

Okay, okay. You win, I suppose. I'll just post my logs and not reply to anything that may result discussion wise. How's that sound? (Unless, of course, a question REALLY needs answered -- such as when I post how the GMs duped/deleted/remade/favoritized... I'm guessing a few questions will arise in that one.)

Tabor.

hectomaner
10-14-2004, 05:18 PM
i read
i enjoyed
i laughed

i DO appriciate the logs, keep em coming

Caramia
10-14-2004, 06:55 PM
Kennesaw hasn't been around for three years and you're STILL harping on this? Get a life. And AOL email or not, what you pretty much did is harass staff, and harassment of staff (or others) by OOC means has gotten people locked out.

Does the name Scintillion ring a bell?

Caramia
10-14-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
I don't get the mentality that people have about "I'm paying for it!!!!!!!" People seem to think that just because they pay for a game that they can behave however they please and never suffer any consequences. If you went into Target and bought some stuff, and while you were signing your credit card slip you started screaming at the cashier about being offal or something, they'd kick you out. They wouldn't care that you were a paying customer.

That said, I don't think the email was THAT big of a deal (if it's what was represented on these boards).

-K

I'm going to agree here that the "I pay to play" mentality is a pretty stupid defense for anything.

You pay for access to a service, and agree to abide by set of rules and certain standards. When you start insulting staff or harassing them, they have every right to remind you that such behavior is unacceptable and outright terminate your access to their service.

Have a nice day!

Parkbandit
10-15-2004, 06:01 PM
Personally.. I think Kennesaw took it easy on you. Had that been me and you emailed one of my staff that immature email.. I would have had you banned from the game. Period.

Consider yourself lucky.

PS- I've had nothing but great interactions with Kennesaw.

Nieninque
10-15-2004, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Caramia
Kennesaw hasn't been around for three years and you're STILL harping on this? Get a life. And AOL email or not, what you pretty much did is harass staff, and harassment of staff (or others) by OOC means has gotten people locked out.

Does the name Scintillion ring a bell?

No, no, no, you dont understand...these are Godly logs and he is posting these so us mere mortals can have a little education/hero worship/afternoon entertainment.

It is his pubic duty he is performing

Caramia
10-15-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Nieninque
No, no, no, you dont understand...these are Godly logs and he is posting these so us mere mortals can have a little education/hero worship/afternoon entertainment.

It is his pubic duty he is performing

Yawn... next thread, please.