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Latrinsorm
03-15-2015, 08:27 PM
So you're on an F2P account, and you hit the 100,000 bank cap. What are your options?
1. Buy stuff in game - but what if you don't want anything at that particular moment?
2. Buy a bank account cap increase - but what if you don't want to give Simu any money?
3. Leave all silver/treasure behind - but what if you would rather not?
4. Sell your silvers - but who is going to buy 100,000 silvers for 80 cents? Paypal fees will take 32 cents, or 40%.

Enter the Players' Bank!

The most direct solution is to have a Banker account. This requires the Banker to be online and do nothing but bank during banking hours or by appointment. It only makes sense with a branch (character) in every town, so you're looking at about $20 a month. If you charge for example 50k per 100k deposit, you'd need 50 deposits a month at $8/m to break even, so it might not be feasible. On the other hand, some people are comfortable paying for a Premium account for its own sake, and one of them could have enough character space to create (or re-purpose existing characters into) banking characters at no direct cost, leaving only opportunity cost.

An alternative is to not have a Banker at all, but Collectors. Each Collector has a schedule just like banking hours, but the depositor can never get those silvers back. Instead, the Collectors aggregate all deposits in a Central account that sells the silvers, splitting the proceeds three ways (e.g. 50% depositor, 25% collector, 25% central). The depositor only withdraws those proceeds in $$$ form, so if they eventually deposit 1,000,000 they can withdraw $4 of which Paypal will only take 65 cents, or 11%. They would still make more money selling 100,000 chunks, but that requires finding buyers interested in only that much. This arrangement offers several advantages over option A. The Collector account doesn't need dedicated characters in every town, and if all or enough of them are Premium the Central account can do the aggregating in FWI.

A somewhat less elegant solution is for F2P players to simply keep making F2P accounts as mules, either one that holds coins on their person or multiple that hold coins in a series of 100,000 bank accounts.

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To help prevent fraud any Bank would need to have a highly recognizable and nominally trustworthy player at the top, preferably one already well versed in marketing. I've never really followed the player markets in GS so your guess is as good as mine there. In the case of option B they would also need a public and regularly updated list of licensed Collectors. Everyone logging everything, both in game and via posts to a message board (or Facebook group or whatever), would also be very highly recommended.

Just my thoughts on the subject. :)

JackWhisper
03-15-2015, 08:30 PM
Can't you have as much as you want on you, as long as you aren't going into combat?

Or some such shit.

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 08:31 PM
Easier solution: Pay 15 bucks a month to remove all restrictions.

Latrinsorm
03-15-2015, 08:36 PM
Easier solution: Pay 15 bucks a month to remove all restrictions.Of all the people in the whole world, I never thought you would be the one advocating that people give Simu money.
Can't you have as much as you want on you, as long as you aren't going into combat? Or some such shit.Yes, that would be the free alt solution.

Latrinsorm
03-15-2015, 08:38 PM
Now that I think about it, the BANKER could make 6 (ish) free accounts, put one in each town, leave them running 24/7 at a table. Terry, how quickly would a person get in trouble for AFK scripting that?

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 08:43 PM
Now that I think about it, the BANKER could make 6 (ish) free accounts, put one in each town, leave them running 24/7 at a table. Terry, how quickly would a person get in trouble for AFK scripting that?

If they were just accepting silvers? To my knowledge it's not against the rules to accept silvers...yet!

Fallen
03-15-2015, 08:59 PM
While I think some might appreciate the ingenuity and entrepreneurial spirit, I imagine any attempt at this setup would be quickly shut down by the GMs. I wouldn't fault anyone for trying, but I just don't want to see anyone get upset when it's shut down.

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 09:01 PM
Isn't this all kind of moot anyways? Don't free accounts make jack shit in silvers?

Fallen
03-15-2015, 09:02 PM
Isn't this all kind of moot anyways? Don't free accounts make jack shit in silvers?

People tend to binge play GS for ridiculous amounts of time. Add in the occasional treasure pass and i'm sure you could hit your limit in due time.

SashaFierce
03-15-2015, 09:07 PM
People tend to binge play GS for ridiculous amounts of time. Add in the occasional treasure pass and i'm sure you could hit your limit in due time.

Someone gave me about 40k to help me out, but I'm at 92k and about to hit the maximum. I already have an alt created where I plan to store my silvers. Simu was dumb for thinking people will pay $1 for each additional 100k. I'd pay $1 for each additional million silvers.

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 09:08 PM
I'm kind of surprised free accounts can give silvers to other players or drop silvers.

Androidpk
03-15-2015, 09:23 PM
While I think some might appreciate the ingenuity and entrepreneurial spirit, I imagine any attempt at this setup would be quickly shut down by the GMs. I wouldn't fault anyone for trying, but I just don't want to see anyone get upset when it's shut down.

I don't see why they would do that. It isn't breaking any TOS.

Astray
03-15-2015, 09:27 PM
I'm kind of surprised free accounts can give silvers to other players or drop silvers.

Promote trade, perhaps? I doubt they are worried about someone farming 100k on a free account and passing it to a paid one. You'd spend far more time on the Free one farming than the paid one.

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 09:32 PM
Promote trade, perhaps? I doubt they are worried about someone farming 100k on a free account and passing it to a paid one. You'd spend far more time on the Free one farming than the paid one.

True. But someone could just run 10 free accounts and make some mad money, yo.

...no one steal my idea!

Taernath
03-15-2015, 09:40 PM
Now introducing...

Character Item Transfer Passes! Ever wish you could just had someone a broadsword and call it a day? With these, you can! As little as 10 cents lets you hand off gems, silver, and whatever else you want for 5 minutes!

Astray
03-15-2015, 09:42 PM
They gotta make money somehow! You act like this game is p2p!

Tgo01
03-15-2015, 09:46 PM
Now introducing...

Character Item Transfer Passes! Ever wish you could just had someone a broadsword and call it a day? With these, you can! As little as 10 cents lets you hand off gems, silver, and whatever else you want for 5 minutes!

Character Item Transfer Passes worked for me! They can work for you, too!

Donquix
03-15-2015, 09:48 PM
If you wanted to be extra cool, respond to the person who "deposits" with you with a whisper formed exactly like the NPC bankers, so normal sell scripts just have to change the "deposit XXXX" to "give XXXXX YYYYYY silver", and it should still get caught by infomon, etc. so ;banks and all that work.

Gelston
03-15-2015, 10:12 PM
I don't see why they would do that. It isn't breaking any TOS.

Yet.

Fallen
03-15-2015, 10:16 PM
Circumventing a service which they are attempting to get money for would almost assuredly be made against the rules.

To be clear, I don't care one way or another, just don't want people bitching when it gets shut down.