Duskruin Arena - Plat Weekend Overview

[prance1520]

I'll do my best to give an overview of the event, hopefully others will fill in the details I miss/mess up.

Each trip to the Arena consists of 5 fights, assuming you beat each opponent. They happen immediately after one another. You have 5 minutes to defeat each opponent, or the event ends in a draw. At any point, you can surrender.

The key to the event is you earn more Bloodscrip the longer the fights last, BUT as you get later into your 5 minutes, the traps and such around you get stronger, and you start to get riddled with wounds.

Fight 1 - 3 are typical beasts that are some number of levels higher than you. They have increased health, and cannot be crit to death, but they can be maimed.
Fight 4 is a special set of beasts that are a little tougher and usually have some unique abilities. Same rules apply, higher level, increased health, etc.
Fight 5 is a Champion. Usually a humanoid, they are very challenging, higher level, and usually have some number of abilities. Depending on the race/class, they can have extremely high health pools. They can also be maimed but not crit killed.

Starting about 2 1/2 minutes into each round, traps will start springing around you, causing damage and wounds. They get stronger and more frequent as you get closer to the 5 minute timer.

If you win, you receive a prize package with bloodscip, 1000-2000 coins, and a randomly generated piece of loot. Some are enhancive. We've seen some pretty decent things generate. Typically winning ASAP is around 125 bloodscrip, drawing out the last fight 145ish, trying to maximize anywhere from 165. Our current record is 206 I think.

If you hit the end of the timer, you get a package with some bloodscrip. I only timed out on the champion, and got ~100 bloodscip.
If you surrender, you get a prize package with about half that in bloodscip and no piece of loot.
Die and you get about 50 bloodscrip and no package.

Dying will not strip your spells, and you'll be healed exiting the arena win/lose/draw.

Logs to come as soon as I can get them scrubbed.

[prance1520]

What we know from Wyrom about Items. All shops were closed in Plat.

I'm not going to list all the items here, but figured I'd let a lot of you know what to expect on pricing.

Most everything is pretty cheap, somewhere under 250 bloodscrip.

Item|Price in Bloodscrip
Gambling Cards|50
Gambling Kits | 30
Dice | 15
Crystal-holding Jewelry | 50
Mechanical Crossbow (4x) | 100
Armor with Resistance | 225 - 375
4x Flaring Weapons | 40 - 250
5x Flaring Weapons | 1000
Whisper Cloaks | 75
Unlocked Whisper Cloak | 750
Smuggler Sack | 100
NerveStaves | 1000 - 50000*

* Base 4x is 1000, their tier up if unlocked or enchanted. Tier up if acuity flares or mana flares. And 50000 is for a NerveStaff with RotFlares.

This is a very very narrow preview. There are over 500 different items for sale.

[Roblar]

Looking forward to this, sounds like to max you need to hold off your kill sometime after the traps set off, after gauging their approximate HP after a few runs.

[prance1520]

Log of the first fight (Level 70 Warrior):

You hold out your dueling slip and an arena guard takes it, escorting you into one of the available arena.
[Duskruin Arena, Dueling Sands]
Spikes protrude outward from the crumbling stone walls that encircle the arena. A thin layer of sand covers the cavern floor, which has been stained with blood and littered with debris. Long shadows twist and turn, cast from the flickering fires high overhead, adding to the considerably oppressive atmosphere in the arena.
Obvious exits: none


An announcer shouts, "Introducing our new combatant, Vorks the Drinking Master, hailing from Wehnimer's Landing!"

>get my wara

You draw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe from one of the weapon loops sewn inside of your thick woolen cloak.


An announcer shouts, "Vorks, you will have five minutes to slay each beast that enters the arena. There are a total of five rounds to make it through!"
You become solid again.
An announcer shouts, "You may use whatever means possible to do so. Some beasts may feign death and give the assumptions they have dropped dead, so be sure to keep a watchful eye on them!"
>symb of prot
You feel a layer of protection surround you.

[sexual-favors: - 144 (guessed) = 987,788]

[ Symbol of Protection: +0:08:39, 0:08:39 remaining. ]

>symb of cour
You feel more courageous.

[sexual-favors: - 144 (guessed) = 987,644]

[ Symbol of Courage: +0:04:19, 0:04:19 remaining. ]

>symb of cour
You feel more courageous.

[sexual-favors: - 144 (guessed) = 987,500]

[ Symbol of Courage: +0:04:19, 0:08:39 remaining. ]

An announcer shouts, "Give us a good show, but be careful lingering too long. You will earn more bloodscrip the longer you last each round, but our beasts are trained to work better under pressure!"
An announcer shouts, "Combatant Vorks, prepare yourself for battle! Good luck and Godspeed. At any point you can surrender, but I would not recommend it if you want to be a champion!"
An announcer shouts, "FIGHT!" An iron portcullis is raised and a spotted tri-toed tegu enters the arena!


A spotted tri-toed tegu tries to bite you!
With extreme effort, you block the attack with your shield!
>.h teg right leg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg right leg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.


With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +318 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +41 = +209
... and hit for 69 points of damage!
Powerful slash!
The tri-toed tegu's right leg is severed at the knee!
The tri-toed tegu squalls loudly as it drops to the ground in agony and favors its mangled right hind leg.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 4 sec.


A spotted tri-toed tegu tries to bite you!
AS: +289 vs DS: +305 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +54 = +45
A clean miss.


R>.h teg right arm
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg right arm
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +183 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +8 = +311
... and hit for 82 points of damage!
Right arm ripped from socket at the elbow!
The tri-toed tegu squeals loudly as it cradles its wounded right foreleg.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 4 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +183 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +57 = +360
... and hit for 130 points of damage!
Body pulped to a gooey mass.
Watch where you step!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
You are now in an offensive stance.
>hurl teg
[script done]

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +189 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +73 = +370
... and hit for 103 points of damage!
Blow ruptures the stomach!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +189 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +46 = +343
... and hit for 76 points of damage!
Rapped the tri-toed tegu's knuckles hard!
Right hand sounds broken.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +177 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +94 = +403
... and hit for 127 points of damage!
Hard slash to the tri-toed tegu's side opens his spleen!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +171 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +45 = +360
... and hit for 110 points of damage!
Shield arm removed at the shoulder!
The tri-toed tegu squeals loudly as it cradles its wounded left foreleg.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>
>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +172 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +32 = +346
... and hit for 91 points of damage!
Powerful slash trims the tri-toed tegu's fingernails...
and the remainder of his left hand!
The tri-toed tegu squeals loudly as it cradles its wounded left claw.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R>.h teg
[Script h is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>stance offensive
>hurl teg
[script done]
You are now in an offensive stance.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a spotted tri-toed tegu!
AS: +454 vs DS: +166 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +38 = +358
... and hit for 130 points of damage!
Blow cracks a rib and punctures a lung.
Breathing becomes a challenge.
The tri-toed tegu arches its back in a tortured spasm and dies.

An announcer boasts, "Combatant Vorks vanquished the tri-toed tegu, get him out of there!" A gornar-shackled ogre lumbers in and drags the tegu out of the arena!"

An announcer shouts, "Send in another one!" An iron portcullis is raised and a behemoth mud-covered crab enters the arena!

[prance1520]

Champion Fight

An announcer shouts, "Send in the champion!" An iron portcullis is raised and a battle-marred orc champion enters the arena!

A battle-marred orc champion swings a claidhmore at you!
AS: +433 vs DS: +532 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +78 = -2
A clean miss.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +294 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +86 = +269
... and hit for 52 points of damage!
Deep, bloody slash to the orc champion's right thigh!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 4 sec.


A battle-marred orc champion swings a claidhmore at you!
Amazingly, you manage to block the attack with your shield!
R

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +258 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +70 = +289
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Right kneecap smashed into pulp.
A battle-marred orc champion moans and drops to the ground grasping his mangled right leg!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 4 sec.

A battle-marred orc champion swings a claidhmore at you!
AS: +383 vs DS: +305 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +24 = +121
... and hits for 2 points of damage!
Quick feint to your right foot.
Little extra damage.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +163 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +78 = +392
... and hit for 71 points of damage!
Powerful slash just cracks the orc champion's weapon arm!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

A battle-marred orc champion swings a claidhmore at you!
AS: +383 vs DS: +305 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +94 = +191
... and hits for 15 points of damage!
Mighty blow cracks several of your ribs.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +163 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +60 = +374
... and hit for 78 points of damage!
Hard hit shatters weapon arm.
The champion screams and grasps at his mangled right arm as his claidhmore falls to the ground.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 4 sec.

>snort champ
You snort derisively at a battle-marred orc champion!

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +163 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +80 = +394
... and hit for 72 points of damage!
Left elbow smashed into a thousand pieces.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +163 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +25 = +339
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Finger ripped away from right hand.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +163 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +87 = +401
... and hit for 88 points of damage!
Whoosh! Several ribs driven into lungs.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


R

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +157 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +98 = +418
... and hit for 92 points of damage!
Hard slash to the orc champion's side!
Left arm no longer available for use.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.

* Three plaintive bell-tolls carried on the wind harbinger Eulogia's arrival.
* Three plaintive bell-tolls carried on the wind harbinger Eulogia's arrival.

>l at champ
You see a fairly typical orc champion that is lying down.
He has a completely severed right arm, a completely severed left arm, a completely severed right leg, some minor cuts and bruises on his right claw, a completely severed left claw and deep lacerations across his chest.
He has some full plate (worn).

>appraise champ
The orc champion is medium in size and about one foot high in his current prone state.
The champion should prove to be a difficult challenge for you.

A volley of darts fire out from somewhere behind the stone wall toward you!
... 1 point of damage!
Strike to left hand breaks a fingernail!

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +157 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +53 = +373
... and hit for 77 points of damage!
Slashing blow to chest knocks the orc champion back a few paces!

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.


With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe into flight.
You throw a double-bit hefty eonake waraxe at a battle-marred orc champion!
AS: +454 vs DS: +157 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +82 = +402
... and hit for 123 points of damage!
Blow cracks a rib and punctures a lung.
Breathing becomes a challenge.
A battle-marred orc champion breathes his last gasp and dies.

Your hefty eonake waraxe spins rapidly through the air, the blade whooshing audibly with each revolution. As it completes its arc, it reverses direction and lands solidly in your right hand, ready to throw again.

Roundtime: 3 sec.

An announcer boasts, "Combatant Vorks vanquished the orc champion, get him out of there!" A gornar-shackled ogre lumbers in and drags the champion out of the arena!"

>stow my wara
You slip the hefty eonake waraxe into one of the weapon loops sewn inside of your thick woolen cloak.

An announcer boasts, "Combatant Vorks is triumphant, defeating all those that opposed him! The overwhelming sound of applauding echoes throughout the stands!

>wear my shie
You sling a convex zelnorn tower shield with a mirror-finish surface over your shoulder, then adjust it so it lays comfortably against your back.

An arena guard escorts you from the dueling sands. You pass by a white-robed human healer who heals you of your injuries.

[Duskruin Arena, Stygian Annex]
Long rows of shelves covered in various wares, weapons and equipment, line the entirety of the back wall behind a long polished granite countertop. A large chandelier hangs from a coiled chain at the center of the room, its tongs holding glass orbs that glow with a white arcane light. You also see a plump grey-bearded scripmaster.
Obvious exits: out

A plump grey-bearded scripmaster flags you over and says, "Here are your winnings, Vorks." He shows you an arena winnings package containing 144 bloodscrip, a fiery red mossbark runestaff, and some silver coins. He continues, "Not bad for for an untrained Dwarf." The scripmaster closes an arena winnings package and hands it to you.

>op my pack
You open an arena winnings package.

>get coin
You gather the remaining 1366 coins from inside your winnings package.
Roundtime: 1 sec.

R>swap
You swap your winnings package from your right to your left hand.

>get blood
You remove some crisp parchment bloodscrip from in your winnings package.

>redeem blood
You redeem your 144 Duskruin Arena bloodscrip.

>get runes
You remove a fiery red mossbark runestaff from in your winnings package.

>put runes in my other pack
You put a fiery red mossbark runestaff in your canvas mining pack.

>throw pack
You throw away your package.

[Roblar]

An announcer shouts, "You may use whatever means possible to do so. Some beasts may feign death and give the assumptions they have dropped dead, so be sure to keep a watchful eye on them!"

Awesome


An announcer shouts, "FIGHT!" An iron portcullis is raised and a...enters the arena!

Awesome


An announcer boasts, "Combatant Vorks is triumphant, defeating all those that opposed him! The overwhelming sound of applauding echoes throughout the stands!

Needs fixed

[Androidpk]

So is this a fully automated event? Will it be constantly available or is this just a limited time thing?

[neimanz1]

i think they said weekends or something like that

[Roblar]

I don't think I missed weekends only but there was mention of live next weekend.

I assume it will be fully automated, once the kinks worked out. Possibly restricted by cooldown or in the Simustore as needed?

[prance1520]

It's fully automated. I think the plan is to start on scheduled weekends and see what happens.

The place will have 200 arenas. The 201st person I think gets blocked from entering I think until a arena frees up. We tested this with 25 in Plat.

[everan]

Is this all about armed combat or do I have a shot at this as a smite cleric? Those nervestaves get pretty expensive, As much as I'd like a high-end staff, I'd want that thing to jump back in my harness if I get disarmed before I'd spend that kind of money.

[prance1520]

Our casters were doing just fine, though there are no undead for smite. They have lots of HP and pretty rough AS (though sometimes they spawn with dumb weapons like cudgels or rapiers). Really, the name of the game is control since they have relatively low DS and tons of health. I'm sure web or unbalance or something like that would work, but hopefully a caster will weigh in with details.

[Kithus]

Vorks touched on the arena but didn't really go into the sewers.

The sewers, which require a rat token rather than a duelling slip, is an addictive little treasure hunt game. You get roughly 10-12 searches in the sewers. Most of the time you will find a bloodscrip parchment worth around 7 to 15 bloodscrip, with most in the 9-11 from what I've seen. About 20% of the time you will find a random item instead. These items are weapons, armor, shields or jewelry items generated by the treasure system. We have found some pretty fantastic stuff this weekend. My personal stash includes a 6x golvern morning star, a piece of jewelry with +13 pick pockets bonus and another bonus and a runestaff I plan to orb later with I think +13 Dex and +10 strenght (I want the dex). I have heard of others finding weighted and padded and sighted stuff both temporary and permanent. That said I've also found a haon light crossbow, 0x with nothing special.

On top of that you can, with a little luck or persistence, find one of the feisty pet rats that were teased by another plat player. These little guys were designed by the amazing GM Keios and they are quite a bit of fun. She really outdid herself on them.


I'm going to be honest with you all. I don't pay for mini quests and I won't pay for this. I simply do not like paying beyond my subscription price for mini events like this but that is my personal choice. With that said I have had an absolute blast this weekend between the sewers and the arena. I think the experience is worth the very low cost (we've been told somewhere around 100 simucoins per entry I believe) if you aren't taking a moral stand against that sort of thing. Just remember before entering the sewers casino to set a limit for how much you want to bet with. It really is addicting.

[Fallen]

Can one of you ask if they mean to put tokens for this game in the treasure system? Also, are runs of this game unlimited on the weekend?

[Roblar]

Done


I couldn't wait till mid-week :)

Couple questions, will tokens to the ratacombs or arena be dropped into the treasure system? I think that doing so would make regular treasure hunting more exciting and provide a tease what is reported to be an addictive game, drawing traffic to the Simustore as well.

Also, are runs of this game unlimited on the weekend?

[Astray]

I'm predicting a 'no'.

[Kithus]

I believe the intent is to let you run as many times as you want to spend the simucoins to go.

[Astray]

I believe the intent is to let you run as many times as you want to spend the simucoins to go.

I should clarify that my prediction is aimed at the 'dropped in the loot system' notion.

[Tgo01]

I should clarify that my prediction is aimed at the 'dropped in the loot system' notion.

Free is a four letter word.

[Astray]

Free is a four letter word.

So is Fuck but only a whore gives out a free fuck.

[Fallen]

So is Fuck but only a whore gives out a free fuck.

This..no. Try again.

[Astray]

This..no. Try again.

Raise your hands and give me all your spirit energy. I'll be able to do it again.

[JackWhisper]

Raise your hands and give me all your spirit energy. I'll be able to do it again.

That's what she said.

[Roblar]

Prediction - wrong!


>>Couple questions, will tokens to the ratacombs or arena be dropped into the treasure system? I think that doing so would make regular treasure hunting more exciting and provide a tease what is reported to be an addictive game, drawing traffic to the Simustore as well.

I don't want to spoil it. But remember RtCF? Yeeeeah!

>>Also, are runs of this game unlimited on the weekend?

Right now, I need to focus it on my schedule to keep an eye on things. So weekends will be when it initial runs. We can keep it open longer once we've determined things are stable for Prime's player base.


~Wyrom, APM

[Astray]

Prediction - wrong!

Oh cool. That's good news for folks who want to play the game. Way to go, Simu.

[Androidpk]

Oh cool. That's good news for folks who want to play the game. Way to go, Simu.

Only need 50 million scrip for a gundam suit.

[Astray]

Only need 50 million scrip for a gundam suit.

Pssst. I'm a Zeke at heart. Pass it on.

[Roblar]

For the rep I got, RtCF was Return to Coraseine Field.

They unveiled a mechanic in the prelude to the event where treasure boxes could contain vouchers for services & items at, or free tickets to the event.

[JackWhisper]

For the rep I got, RtCF was Return to Coraseine Field.

They unveiled a mechanic in the prelude to the event where treasure boxes could contain vouchers for services & items at, or free tickets to the event.

Dude fuck those envelopes. Collected and sold over 4000, watched them all get opened. Not one prize. So lame.

[Tgo01]

Dude fuck those envelopes. Collected and sold over 4000, watched them all get opened. Not one prize. So lame.

Yeah with my 43 afk running characters I found thousands of envelopes too. Nothing in any of them.

[Fallen]

As far as i'm concerned, pretty much everything in the Simucoin store should be automated drops in the treasure system. That doesn't mean frequent, just that a GM doesn't need to load them each time. Hopefully that's the case.

I'm happy Duskruin will be available via the treasure system. This help allay the concerns of those looking to enjoy these events without investing RL dollars.

[Roblar]

Yea me either, but still it is exciting and creates an extra market and more interaction/economy among players.

So you're saying there is a chance....?

I do know someone that won a free ticket to that one though, and I expect it will be alot easier for a $1 Simustore auto quest than the limited RtCF runs so shouldn't be as rare to find.

[Donquix]

Depends on the frequency.

If it's RtCF "lullz. opened 50k envelopes", i still maintain they can go fuck themselves.

If it's something closer to the shitty simucoin store drops no one cares about, that's a little better. "You currently have 20 enhancive pauses available.", but still mostly bullshit.

[JackWhisper]

Yea me either, but still it is exciting and creates an extra market and more interaction/economy among players.

So you're saying there is a chance....?

I do know someone that won a free ticket to that one though, and I expect it will be alot easier for a $1 Simustore auto quest than the limited RtCF runs so shouldn't be as rare to find.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

[Roblar]

Yea I was being lazy with the video search.

I'm lazy in general that I like the enhancive pauses and the locker runners!

[Ceyrin]

Dude fuck those envelopes. Collected and sold over 4000, watched them all get opened. Not one prize. So lame.

I opened like 30 and got free climate gear cloak.

[JackWhisper]

I opened like 30 and got free climate gear cloak.

FINE CEYRIN~! FINE!

In this ONE ISOLATED SOLITARY INSTANCE...

Clerics beat out paladins.

Go ahead and put that in your sig, fucker!

[Ceyrin]

FINE CEYRIN~! FINE!

In this ONE ISOLATED SOLITARY INSTANCE...

Clerics beat out paladins.

Go ahead and put that in your sig, fucker!


I don't need to sig something everyone already knows. Clerics > Paladins ALWAYS

[JackWhisper]

I don't need to sig something everyone already knows. Clerics > Paladins ALWAYS

Untrue words are untrue!

[Kithus]

I think it's in their best interest to let people get ahold of one of these occasionally. Like I said, it's addictive.

[Donquix]

I think it's in their best interest to let people get ahold of one of these occasionally. Like I said, it's addictive.

which is why it should be free x times per <unit of time> as a default.

That's why it's so infuriating. Not only is bullshit to charge for content going into the game we already pay for, it's also bad fucking business.

Like fuck, if you're going to be profit-driven at least be good at it.

[JackWhisper]

Like fuck, if you're going to be profit-driven at least be good at it.

Because Whatley.

Holy shit Whatley's in Role Models!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4OVzXJLqSc

[Ceyrin]

Untrue words are untrue!

I got this rep message, Neelin. I think it sums it up nicely.

Angry paladin? Pffft. Angry cleric? FUCKIN RUN! - Anonymous

[Astray]

That was me. I said that.

[JackWhisper]

I got this rep message, Neelin. I think it sums it up nicely.

Angry paladin? Pffft. Angry cleric? FUCKIN RUN! - Anonymous

LOL. Hey, gotta have unreasonable fanboys somewhere, Ceyrin.

...

Ceyrin stop repping from your alt accounts!

[Jarvan]

which is why it should be free x times per <unit of time> as a default.

That's why it's so infuriating. Not only is bullshit to charge for content going into the game we already pay for, it's also bad fucking business.

Like fuck, if you're going to be profit-driven at least be good at it.

It's kinda funny how some people think all new content should be free cause they pay a subscription.

Was Warlords of Draenor free to existing subscribers?

Lets look at a F2P game.. like DDO, They require people to pay for a bunch of their new content.

We are getting spitfire free in April. So they want you to pay for this.. big fucking deal. Don't do it if you don't like the idea of paying. "oh no, but then I can't get XXX because I feel I deserve it for paying all the time". Grow the fuck up.

It's always the same fucking douche bags saying how XXX should be free because of "Things". Yeah, it's your right to whine... but seriously, it's getting fucking old. You are just showing how pathetic you are.

I think this is a neat idea. The price to enter.. seems reasonable so far, we will see based on actual item prices. The fact that you can earn access for free randomly, not bad.

On a Rough guess.. avg 140 tickets a run, and it will take about 360 runs for the 50k runestaff. Or what, 360 bucks? MUCH more expensive then a "random" auction ticket.. but you would likely end up paying a lot more then 35 million for the slot at a service festival, or in an auction. Not to mention random other loot. I am sure out of 360 runs, a person would earn a few items that could sell for a shiny silver.

Also.. your bolded statement would make sense if they were charging 50 bucks to be able to use a new CMAN, or Sorc spell.

Once again... Are WoW Expansions Free? I see to recall Warlords was 40 bucks. Guess Blizzard is doing bad business.

[JackWhisper]

Only 35mil for a RotFlare runestaff?

I know a certain someone who TOTALLY APPROVES OF THIS.

Because RotFlares = 100mil immediately on any item!

[Tgo01]

Once again... Are WoW Expansions Free? I see to recall Warlords was 40 bucks. Guess Blizzard is doing bad business.

Something tells me WoW wouldn't have been nearly as popular as it is now if it cost 1 dollar each time you entered an arena or a BG.

[Jarvan]

Something tells me WoW wouldn't have been nearly as popular as it is now if it cost 1 dollar each time you entered an arena or a BG.

Of course.. since this is nothing like an Arena of BG really. Doesn't really matter.

But.. then again. I GUESS it's perfectly fine wanting absolutely free shit. You know.. if you could enter the arena for free, you basically should just be handed a rot runestaff, and any other gear you want and clapped on the back.

[Jarvan]

Only 35mil for a RotFlare runestaff?

I know a certain someone who TOTALLY APPROVES OF THIS.

Because RotFlares = 100mil immediately on any item!

Lets not forget, a NEVRESTAFF and ROTFLARES. That Certain someone would value this at 4500 million silver.

[Tgo01]

Of course.. since this is nothing like an Arena of BG really. Doesn't really matter.

I think this Duskruin Arena is closer to an arena match or BG in WoW then it is to a full blow expansion.

In both the Duskruin Arena and WoW arena/BG you are playing for the chance to win an in game currency of some sort then use that in game currency to purchase items and loot.


You know.. if you could enter the arena for free, you basically should just be handed a rot runestaff, and any other gear you want and clapped on the back.

Well let's not get too crazy now; a rot runestaff of any enchant is worth 100 million silvers.

[Laviticas]

Comparing Draenor to this, WTF? Draenor is already in what, it's 3rd patch? Don't even try to compare. Blizzard has done soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......mu ch more in 10 years than SIMU. $15 a month + $50 every 2 years for a new xpac.

Xayle is killing RR anyhow, not really even worth F2P at this point.

[Androidpk]

You can't compare the two. Blizzard is a fully staffed company. Simu depends on volunteers. Blizzard has millions of customers. Simu has probably never even broke 50,000.

[Laviticas]

But you can compare what your $15 a month gets you.

[Fallen]

How's the roleplay in WoW these days?

[JackWhisper]

How's the roleplay in WoW these days?

Do you know l33t$p34k? If not, you won't get how uberpwn it is.

[Androidpk]

Barrens chat.

[Tgo01]

How's the roleplay in WoW these days?

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http://www.thegothblog.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=10

[Ceyrin]

That was me. I said that.

I don't out people unless they're douchers.

[Ceyrin]

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http://www.thegothblog.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=10

So, a lot like Gemstone is what you're saying here.

[Ceyrin]

.

Xayle is killing RR anyhow, not really even worth F2P at this point.

How does this even happen? I mean, unless you're talking about raining down fiery death... I don't understand.

[JackWhisper]

How does this even happen? I mean, unless you're talking about raining down fiery death... I don't understand.

Isn't there only like nine people in RR, four of them being multi-accounts?

All I can think of is that some elitist RR snob went super-elite and thinks everyone else is scum. Blablabla.

[Ceyrin]

But how would that be Xayle's fault?

[JackWhisper]

But how would that be Xayle's fault?

Maybe they don't like it! I don't know!

[Kithus]

Lets not forget, a NEVRESTAFF and ROTFLARES. That Certain someone would value this at 4500 million silver.

Actually I asked Wyrom about this during testing because it still seemed high. The 50,000 bloodscrip staff will be tier 4 nervestaff, rotflares and have acuity. A staff that is JUST tier 4 nervestaff (no clue on enchant) is going to be something like 2500.

Edit: Yes I understand you were poking fun at someone else. I just wanted to clarify that the "big ticket staff" has more going for it than just adding rot flares.

[JackWhisper]

Actually I asked Wyrom about this during testing because it still seemed high. The 50,000 bloodscrip staff will be tier 4 nervestaff, rotflares and have acuity. A staff that is JUST tier 4 nervestaff (no clue on enchant) is going to be something like 2500.

How large is the acuity, from x1 to x10? Or is the cap x12? I forget.

[Kithus]

How large is the acuity, from x1 to x10? Or is the cap x12? I forget.

Cap is 10x and I didn't ask. I guess we will find out when Duskruin goes live.

[JackWhisper]

Cap is 10x and I didn't ask. I guess we will find out when Duskruin goes live.

Welp, it might be very worth it if the Acuity isn't something dogshit like 1x or 2x, with baseline rot flares and a t4 nervestaff. Looks potentially promising. Tks Kithus.

[Kithus]

My guess is that it will be something like 8x, tier 4 nervestaff, rot flares and either 8 or 10 ranks of acuity. That is completely a guess on my part though. Just thought I'd throw it out there and see how correct I am next week.

[Laviticas]

But how would that be Xayle's fault?

Guess some of us got used to Gurus that actually interact with the townsfolk, or even paid attention to what is going on in the town she is in charge of. I think it's going on 4 months now she said she was starting some storyline at the end of last year. Par for GS course I guess

[Jarvan]

Actually I asked Wyrom about this during testing because it still seemed high. The 50,000 bloodscrip staff will be tier 4 nervestaff, rotflares and have acuity. A staff that is JUST tier 4 nervestaff (no clue on enchant) is going to be something like 2500.

Edit: Yes I understand you were poking fun at someone else. I just wanted to clarify that the "big ticket staff" has more going for it than just adding rot flares.

Well.. with that in mind, IW's price will now be 999999999 billion silvers.

[Astray]

I missed a bit but going back and reading that Blizzard and Simu are incomparable is fair.

If anything, Simu being compared to any modern game is a bit much, all things considered. Sure those modern games may lack an RP front but if you dig a little, you can find one. Does that really allude to being worth $15 a month though? Kind of feels like a hollow argument. Don't get me wrong, I have had some great times RPing with folks but that was when I finally got past the cliquish heavy atmosphere.

[Donquix]

I missed a bit but going back and reading that Blizzard and Simu are incomparable is fair.

If anything, Simu being compared to any modern game is a bit much, all things considered. Sure those modern games may lack an RP front but if you dig a little, you can find one. Does that really allude to being worth $15 a month though? Kind of feels like a hollow argument. Don't get me wrong, I have had some great times RPing with folks but that was when I finally got past the cliquish heavy atmosphere.

you can't compare them on amount of content, that's obviously not fair. But what they do with said content, how it is is provided, etc. you absolutely can.

[Latrinsorm]

We are getting spitfire free in April. So they want you to pay for this.. big fucking deal. Don't do it if you don't like the idea of paying. "oh no, but then I can't get XXX because I feel I deserve it for paying all the time". Grow the fuck up. It's bad business because it reduces their potential customer base.

Scenario A
Every run costs $1.
Ten people run ten times each.
You get $100.

Scenario B
The first three runs are free, every subsequent run costs $1.
Those ten people still run ten times each.
But now twenty more people try it out.
Of whom ten only run the free ones and ten run ten times.
Potato clock.
You get $140.

For a fully automated system, you don't have to worry about increased staff time for running the quests. The only thing you have to worry about is apparently the total number of people in the system, and if Gemstone can have 200+ people logged in at a time JUST to play this mini game, Simutronics is going to be very happy.

[Tgo01]

Like others have said I don't even mind that they are charging 1 dollar per run or whatever. But why can't free accounts get like 1 free run every time the event comes around, basic accounts get 10 free runs, premium gets 20, and platinum gets 30.

It just seems like they are putting more stuff in the SimuCoin store assuming this is a free game to play but they forget that they have people paying a monthly subscription.

[Fallen]

The spawn rate of these things in the treasure system may address this concern. I have a feeling they may be fairly common.

[Donquix]

It's kinda funny how some people think all new content should be free cause they pay a subscription.

Was Warlords of Draenor free to existing subscribers?

Lets look at a F2P game.. like DDO, They require people to pay for a bunch of their new content.

We are getting spitfire free in April. So they want you to pay for this.. big fucking deal. Don't do it if you don't like the idea of paying. "oh no, but then I can't get XXX because I feel I deserve it for paying all the time". Grow the fuck up.

It's always the same fucking douche bags saying how XXX should be free because of "Things". Yeah, it's your right to whine... but seriously, it's getting fucking old. You are just showing how pathetic you are.

I think this is a neat idea. The price to enter.. seems reasonable so far, we will see based on actual item prices. The fact that you can earn access for free randomly, not bad.

On a Rough guess.. avg 140 tickets a run, and it will take about 360 runs for the 50k runestaff. Or what, 360 bucks? MUCH more expensive then a "random" auction ticket.. but you would likely end up paying a lot more then 35 million for the slot at a service festival, or in an auction. Not to mention random other loot. I am sure out of 360 runs, a person would earn a few items that could sell for a shiny silver.

Also.. your bolded statement would make sense if they were charging 50 bucks to be able to use a new CMAN, or Sorc spell.

Once again... Are WoW Expansions Free? I see to recall Warlords was 40 bucks. Guess Blizzard is doing bad business.

I feel so sorry for you.

[Jarvan]

I feel so sorry for you.

Luckily I stopped feeling sorry for people like you a long time ago.

[Donquix]

Luckily I stopped feeling sorry for people like you a long time ago.

It's ok Jarvan. It's ok. Just keep telling yourself that.

[SashaFierce]

It's ok Jarvan. It's ok. Just keep telling yourself that.

One of the biggest reasons I quit playing is because I felt like it kept costing more and more money to do the things I enjoy in the game. I wanted to have nice items, but the only way to obtain them was to pay $75 for a festival ticket.

[Viekn]

One of the biggest reasons I quit playing is because I felt like it kept costing more and more money to do the things I enjoy in the game. I wanted to have nice items, but the only way to obtain them was to pay $75 for a festival ticket.

Just like in life, I think we feel pressured to have the nice items, because other people do. But be honest, if you just had plain 4x/5x inexpensive gear, you could still do just fine in game and still actually be playing. But if what you enjoyed about the game was having uber gear, then yeah, that costs money, you're right.

[Astray]

Just like in life, I think we feel pressured to have the nice items, because other people do. But be honest, if you just had plain 4x/5x inexpensive gear, you could still do just fine in game and still actually be playing. But if what you enjoyed about the game was having uber gear, then yeah, that costs money, you're right.

And the uber gear only gets more expensive with age. Look at some of the older gear and the price tags attached to them. Holy crap does it make me cringe just how expensive it gets when you convert it to $$$$.

[Tgo01]

Just like in life, I think we feel pressured to have the nice items, because other people do. But be honest, if you just had plain 4x/5x inexpensive gear, you could still do just fine in game and still actually be playing. But if what you enjoyed about the game was having uber gear, then yeah, that costs money, you're right.

Some people like to play games to be the most powerful <insert class/race> ever! It's like the whole premise of WoW. Ever just stroll through one of the major populated cities and see someone decked out in top gear on their one of a kind mount just sitting in the middle of the busiest pathway in the game?

GS is certainly no exception to this. Sure it may not be required to have all of that awesome gear, it's not required in WoW either, but nonetheless people still enjoy collecting all of the uber gear. Just check out the GS related threads on this very forum; how many of them pertain to awesome items, how powerful their character is in combat, spells, skills, classes, etc etc and how many of them are talking about roleplaying?

I'm willing to bet the ratio is 1 billion to 1 in favor of the non-roleplaying talk and Simu knows this which is exactly why they keep making these things cost money.

[Thondalar]

Just like in life, I think we feel pressured to have the nice items, because other people do.

Just like in life, I think that applies to some people...we're all motivated by different things. For some, it is the "keeping up with the Jones'" mentality....we have to have a 10x perfect MCW lance because we saw someone else with one and thought it was the coolest thing ever. I think the vast majority of us, to varying degrees, just like to have nice things. Thondalar's entire outfit is custom altered for him, all of his containers are max light/deep (using the old rules, thankfully)...but I don't have any epic deepened stuff. I use a "nice" lance and "nice" armor, but neither is padded or weighted over heavy or enchanted over 7x. Could I afford these things? Sure. I could also afford a new lease on a Mercedes every year. Do I do that? No. I drive a fully functional car that is in good working condition and has been paid for for 5 years now. In neither scenario do I feel "pressured" to get nicer stuff. I have what I like.

Some of my alts have really nice gear, compared to Thondalar's "vanilla" stuff, and that's by design...I have a level 27 warrior with almost 300m worth of gear. Why? Because he has a very particular race/build that's kind of hard to pull off without nice gear. It's more to just experiment with new things and find new avenues to explore the game and the character creation.


But be honest, if you just had plain 4x/5x inexpensive gear, you could still do just fine in game and still actually be playing.

Totally. Some classes can do it easier than others, but for the most part, you could get into plain 5x gear for a few hundred K and augment it with some statues or scrolls or imbeds and be just fine even post-cap. But honestly, unless you're just blowing all your money on the ponies constantly, or selling your silvers off every time you get a 10m chunk, there's no reason you wouldn't eventually upgrade your gear as you have money to pay for it.


But if what you enjoyed about the game was having uber gear, then yeah, that costs money, you're right.

Well, not really...besides the sub price, I suppose. Tying this in with the quote you originally quoted, from SashaFierce, that the only way to obtain nice items was to pay $75 for a festival ticket...that's completely bogus. I was dealing in high-end gear back when I was on a standard account before going to any paid events...hell, my first paid event I bought the tickets with money I got from selling gear. The more correct statement would be "the only way to obtain nice items with minimal effort" is to pay for it.

While it's true that most paid events are money makers (I don't think I've made less than 50m each from the last 6 EGs), even that takes work. Plenty of people pay for tickets to events and don't get anything out of it. Like anything else, you get back what you put in. Personally, I prefer to make my own nice gear, but that does indeed take time and money for events in order to get services needed to make nice gear. Alternately you could buy PP from trusted sources for certain jobs, but a lot of services can only be obtained at these paid events. If you're ok with having other people make nice gear and you just buying it, there are always tons of nice things for sale here on the PC or on the merchant channel in-game. All you need to do is be creative enough to figure out how to make silvers to buy the things you want. There are innumerable ways to accomplish this without buying a single paid event ticket.

[everan]

I'm with Thondalar on this, nice gear is fun, but it isn't the end all be all. I use a 4x runestaff most of the time and I do have HCP armor, but I don't need 10x to be effective, I'm using 8x right now. The only item that I ever really noticed that had a dramatic effect was FGB, and that's only like 4x. I used that for years until I was gone for a while and then came back a few years ago, and got some higher enchant. In fact, I was blown away by how much gear was out there because of all those Droughtman's runs. FGB really lost it's luster the few years I was gone.

[JackWhisper]

One of the biggest reasons I quit playing is because I felt like it kept costing more and more money to do the things I enjoy in the game. I wanted to have nice items, but the only way to obtain them was to pay $75 for a festival ticket.

Just pay $1500 to a player, instead!

[Astray]

Just pay $1500 to a player, instead!

Are items in GS really that high up there?

[Tgo01]

Are items in GS really that high up there?

Some are. Check out Ardwen's Stuff thread. He can buy a car with his proceeds.

[JackWhisper]

Are items in GS really that high up there?

Easily. Ardwen just sold about $14,000 worth in the last two weeks? Something like that.

[Androidpk]

Are items in GS really that high up there?

Haven't you seen Ardwen's thread? 3 items alone sold for around 600m silvers each.

[Astray]

$14,000

Jesus titty fucking Christ.

[Androidpk]

Over $20k with easily.

[Astray]

Did these items come with free handjobs?