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[Bauzokhahl]

Helping a friend set up a wizard, I saw her stats and skills and winced badly. I told her I could help her with it all, but i'm still not good with stat placement. She's a train 12 Dark Elf, Stats and Skills are as follows:

Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 52 (1) ... 52 (1)
Constitution (CON): 43 (-8) ... 43 (-8)
Dexterity (DEX): 93 (31) ... 93 (31)
Agility (AGL): 55 (7) ... 55 (7)
Discipline (DIS): 73 (1) ... 73 (1)
Aura (AUR): 93 (31) ... 93 (31)
Logic (LOG): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Intuition (INT): 55 (7) ... 55 (7)
Wisdom (WIS): 82 (21) ... 82 (21)
Influence (INF): 55 (-3) ... 55 (-3)



| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 35 7
Physical Fitness...................| 62 13
Arcane Symbols.....................| 70 15
Magic Item Use.....................| 86 19
Spell Aiming.......................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 111 27
Elemental Mana Control.............| 99 23
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 10 2
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 10 2
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 15 3
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 15 3
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 5 1
Perception.........................| 30 6
Climbing...........................| 5 1

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 11

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 1

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 11
Training Points: 37 Phy 0 Mnt (230 Phy converted to Mnt)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

Your 30 day migration period will begin when you choose to degrade a skill.

now this wizard is all mine to distort into what i believe is to be a good wizard. I know plans that are 3x in spells, and i'd like to be able to set this one up like that, i told her we're gonna drop the lores, which she saids fine. She's a runestaffer, and wants the HIGHEST AS and CS possible, therefore i figure thats where we need to get 3x spells in. Any 3x spell wizards please give a bit of advice to the cause? TYVM

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by Bauzokhahl
and wants the HIGHEST AS and CS possible,

sounds like everyone

[Kitsun]

Nothing glaringly wrong with the stats.

As far as training goes...
Armor - 4 ranks gets you into full. As a pure caster hinderance is a pain so I would tend to stick with that.
PT - until full HP
AS - 1x
MIU - 1x
Spell Aiming - 2x. Basis for bolt AS, not sure why she'd cut that short.
HP - 1.5x to 2x.
EMC - 1x
Climb/Swim/Perception - Work up as necessary
Drop all the rest into spells and see where you end up.

Just as a side note: CS shouldn't be a wizard's primary concern. Most of the CS based spells aren't exactly mana efficient, some of the cooler ones won't work without lore support.

[Bauzokhahl]

is it possible to fit in Lores and still have 3x spells? like one specific lore? Also i need help placing stats mainly, thats my big fault, whats gonna optomize some good power but also get some good TP's overall?

[Kitsun]

You have to make major sacrifices to hit 3x in spells. Singling in a lore just moves you further away. The above is close to my current plan but I do train 1x in a lore. I'm close at about 2.6x spells.

[AnticorRifling]

Plo has an amazing training for a pure. If I ever went the pure caster route I'd follow him. Not sure if he reads here but if he does he should post his skills. I'll ask him if it's cool for me to post them since I can see them in psinet skills but still feel it's not my place to post someone else's skills.

[Carl Spackler]

To give you an idea of what I think a successful(granted success is relative) wizard looks like heres a look at my training. I do fine hunting pretty much anything on the isle. Mages and sprites still kill my more than I kill them if I go down there by myself, but in a group they're a piece of cake.


Gherlan (at level 48), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Physical Fitness...................| 90 20
Arcane Symbols.....................| 148 48
Magic Item Use.....................| 148 48
Spell Aiming.......................| 198 98
Harness Power......................| 194 94
Elemental Mana Control.............| 117 29
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 50 10
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 5 1
Survival...........................| 146 46
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 86 19
First Aid..........................| 105 25
Trading............................| 20 4

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 68

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30

[AnticorRifling]

If it were me with all those spells I'd keep minor at lvl and put the extra ranks in major.

[Carl Spackler]

I actually had 72 ranks in it, I gave up for to stick in major. All my training is going in major now. W

Just reroll and become a sorcerer!

- Arkans

[Carl Spackler]

Never.

[AnticorRifling]

Ohh if you're gonna do lores just pick 2 and stick with them. Don't do four. Do like water air, or fire earth.