Fantastic Four Reboot - Trailer

[Gizmo]

So, what do we all think of the reboot? It's pretty sick looking, I'm just not too sure about the Torch/Mr. Fantastic duo from the movie That Awkward Movie or whatever it was with Zec Effron and shit hah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA

[Latrinsorm]

No Jessica Alba? Out.

[Tenlaar]

That minute and forty-five seconds was already more enjoyable than the entire previous movie.

[Back]

No Jessica Alba? Out.

Exactly what I was thinking!

But then... while I liked the most recent version I can see potential in doing another one more down and dirty. More, this is stupid, but closer to reality than "We went into space and now we have to learn how to use our cosmic powers!".

[Androidpk]

Kate Mara > Jessica Alba

[Back]

Kate Mara > Jessica Alba

You're arguing about stupid shit. But...

http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/kate-mara.jpg


VS.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOrl8EFj1DlC80PlKhkzoSUrzEnW4wO CGkVVU2hcbrahQUttsF

[Gelston]

I'm tired of superhero movies, myself.

[Androidpk]

I'm tired of superhero movies, myself.

Yeah, seriously. Gotta milk this fad for all its worth though.

[Jhynnifer]

I'm not tired of superhero movies... I'm tired of rebooted superhero movies.

Spiderman is going to be rebooted again if they add him to wtfever cross-over immersion bullshit they are discussing... now fantastic four.... Hulk's been done, what 3-4 times now?

Give me more movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Iron Man movie. I only liked the "reboot" of xmen because Fox fucked up the original so hard it wasn't fixable.


Also: Not a huge fan of their casting on this one, I really don't like the guy they've got playing Mr Fantastic.

[Gelston]

I'm not tired of superhero movies... I'm tired of rebooted superhero movies.

Spiderman is going to be rebooted again if they add him to wtfever cross-over immersion bullshit they are discussing... now fantastic four.... Hulk's been done, what 3-4 times now?

Give me more movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Iron Man movie. I only liked the "reboot" of xmen because Fox fucked up the original so hard it wasn't fixable.


Also: Not a huge fan of their casting on this one, I really don't like the guy they've got playing Mr Fantastic.

I don't really consider Guardians of the Galaxy so much a super hero movie. I mean, sure it is in the genre I guess... But everyone was just sorta... Regular. They didn't really have super powers and stuff.

[Jhynnifer]

I don't really consider Guardians of the Galaxy so much a super hero movie. I mean, sure it is in the genre I guess... But everyone was just sorta... Regular. They didn't really have super powers and stuff.

Batman doesn't have superpowers.

[Back]

I don't really consider Guardians of the Galaxy so much a super hero movie. I mean, sure it is in the genre I guess... But everyone was just sorta... Regular. They didn't really have super powers and stuff.

Yeah. Such an obscure comic book to make a movie out of. But... they did a damn fine job.

I'm sick of Wolverine. Though I did like the hot chick in the last one.

http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.site/PHuGmX729Ilsxz_1_m.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Batman doesn't have superpowers.

Detective skills, superhuman will and dedication and almost unlimited wealth = superpowers. Much like Iron Man.

[Tenlaar]

Yeah, I would much rather see some actual new superhero movies. About the only thing I actually want to see rebooted is Green Lantern because it has such potential and good gravy was it wasted. Of the coming years lineup I'm really looking forward to (and hoping they don't screw up) The Flash, Doctor Strange, Gambit, Black Panther, Venom: Carnage, and Shazam.

[Androidpk]

Detective skills, superhuman will and dedication and almost unlimited wealth = superpowers. Much like Iron Man.

Don't forget he's also a fucking ninja. Literally.

[Parkbandit]

Don't forget he's also a fucking ninja. Literally.

Under dedication, given the enormous amount of time it takes to train and stay in that type of shape.

[Back]

Take away a yellow sun and Superman is just an unskilled simpleton.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, I would much rather see some actual new superhero movies. About the only thing I actually want to see rebooted is Green Lantern because it has such potential and good gravy was it wasted. Of the coming years lineup I'm really looking forward to (and hoping they don't screw up) The Flash, Doctor Strange, Gambit, Black Panther, Venom: Carnage, and Shazam.

Yea.. not sure why Shazam wasn't done before this... or Gambit or Wonder Woman. As far as reboots go, I'm with you on Green Lantern. I actually liked most of the cast.. but the script and direction was terrible. I'm not sure Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern was a good idea though... I think he would make a very good Spiderman or Flash.. a smartass superhero. I can't believe how bad Daredevil was.. that's an awesome character that should be rebooted.

[Tenlaar]

Yea.. not sure why Shazam wasn't done before this... or Gambit or Wonder Woman. As far as reboots go, I'm with you on Green Lantern. I actually liked most of the cast.. but the script and direction was terrible. I'm not sure Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern was a good idea though... I think he would make a very good Spiderman or Flash.. a smartass superhero. I can't believe how bad Daredevil was.. that's an awesome character that should be rebooted.

Ugh, I had almost blocked Daredevil from memory. He really does deserve a good movie though. I know what you mean about Reynolds, I like him as an actor but he really does shine in a snarky role.

Gambit has always been tied with Nightcrawler (THAT could be a sweet ass movie too - him taking out the Secret Service was the best part in the first X-Men trilogy) for my favorite of the X-Men and one of my favorite heroes in general. I really hope they do that one well.

[Back]

Ugh, I had almost blocked Daredevil from memory. He really does deserve a good movie though. I know what you mean about Reynolds, I like him as an actor but he really does shine in a snarky role.

Gambit has always been tied with Nightcrawler (THAT could be a sweet ass movie too - him taking out the Secret Service was the best part in the first X-Men trilogy) for my favorite of the X-Men and one of my favorite heroes in general. I really hope they do that one well.

Right now Chris Claremont is writing a Nightcrawler book with an awesome artist.

[Androidpk]

Yes please.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/52093ddbe4b08b89e5d761d6/1376337374871/psylocke_by_2ngaw-d65s2ho.jpg?format=1500w

[Latrinsorm]

Detective skills, superhuman will and dedication and almost unlimited wealth = superpowers. Much like Iron Man.He doesn't have superhuman will or dedication, in the same way that Usain Bolt doesn't have superhuman speed. Iron Man's suit gives him abilities that are literally beyond human: flight, strength, pew pew.
Kate Mara > Jessica Alba>_>

[Silvean]

I thought it was cool when Nightcrawler was ordained a priest. They ran that off the rails into a retcon pretty fast, so maybe I was the only person who felt that way.

[Latrinsorm]

Yes please.Are those seriously high heeled jika-tabi? AYFKM?

[Androidpk]

Are those seriously high heeled jika-tabi? AYFKM?

Serious as a roundhouse kick to the face with flared leggings.

[JackWhisper]

Exactly what I was thinking!

But then... while I liked the most recent version I can see potential in doing another one more down and dirty. More, this is stupid, but closer to reality than "We went into space and now we have to learn how to use our cosmic powers!".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v57sUtvNa5o

[JackWhisper]

almost unlimited wealth = superpower.

Agree.

[Atlanteax]

I did not realize that the Fantastic 4 movie was old enough to prompt a reboot.

[Jhynnifer]

Detective skills, superhuman will and dedication and almost unlimited wealth = superpowers. Much like Iron Man.

I'm not saying he's not a super hero, but like the dudes in GotG Batman does not have superpowers.

[Jhynnifer]

I thought it was cool when Nightcrawler was ordained a priest. They ran that off the rails into a retcon pretty fast, so maybe I was the only person who felt that way.

I was of two minds on what they did with Nightcrawler... I wanted him to be furry, because goddamnit his nickname was Fuzzy in the Excalibur books, but I thought they did something interesting with him in the movie

[Back]

I was of two minds on what they did with Nightcrawler... I wanted him to be furry, because goddamnit his nickname was Fuzzy in the Excalibur books, but I thought they did something interesting with him in the movie

You actually know the Excalibur books? Rawr.

[Tenlaar]

I did not realize that the Fantastic 4 movie was old enough to prompt a reboot.

It came out 10 years ago.

[Atlanteax]

I did not realize that the Fantastic 4 movie was old enough to prompt a reboot.


It came out 10 years ago.

10 years = still too soon

15-20 years, okay.

At this point, we might as well do a reboot of LoTR and the first Harry Potter book.

[Jhynnifer]

You actually know the Excalibur books? Rawr.

Up until my ex-husband lost my entire comic book collection, I owned the series. Meggan was my favorite Marvel character behind Rogue.

[Tenlaar]

10 years = still too soon

Na. And you can't compare comics with regular books. Comics have infinitely more material to pull from for new movies than books.

[JackWhisper]

Hundreds of millions of people loved Harry Potter when they saw it.

Hundreds of millions of people hated Harry Potter when they saw it AFTER they read the books.

I loved Harry Potter. Because I've never read the books. Scathing rhetoric abounds about the film franchise because of how terribly they followed the storyline. A reboot would be welcomed by the genre-shattering film series. Pretty much because BECAUSE of Harry Potter, no one can do the film scene LIKE Harry Potter, or they risk being compared TO Harry Potter, and that would just be laughable in most cases.

[Jhynnifer]

Na. And you can't compare comics with regular books. Comics have infinitely more material to pull from for new movies than books.

Unless you're spiderman and your idea of a reboot is to do the same exact storyline the first one did.

[JackWhisper]

Unless you're spiderman and your idea of a reboot is to do the same exact storyline the first one did.

You know what they need to do? A full-blown Venom and Carnage arc. I would pay to see that. Carnage was awesomely insane.

[JackWhisper]

That and they just terribly manhandled and miniaturized what Venom was in the like second movie of Spiderman. UGH that was terrible to no end.

[Jhynnifer]

You know what they need to do? A full-blown Venom and Carnage arc. I would pay to see that. Carnage was awesomely insane.

You know what they need to do? Destroy every copy of the 2nd and 3rd xmen movies and then go back and do the Phoenix Saga the fucking right way. One of the best all time marvel storylines and they butchered the hell out of it. I was so disappointed.

[Androidpk]

You know what they need to do? Destroy every copy of the 2nd and 3rd xmen movies and then go back and do the Phoenix Saga the fucking right way. One of the best all time marvel storylines and they butchered the hell out of it. I was so disappointed.

Sure, as long as it stars Famke Janssen.

[JackWhisper]

Sure, as long as it stars Famke Janssen.

You say a lot of stupid things, but this is most definitely not one of them.

[Tenlaar]

You know what they need to do? A full-blown Venom and Carnage arc. I would pay to see that. Carnage was awesomely insane.


Buried in the news of Sony's development of a female-driven Spider-Man spinoff flick, Deadline says that the new title for Venom's standalone film is now Venom Carnage. The movie is still in development with Alex Kurtzman (Star Trek, The Amazing Spider-Man 2) attached to direct and write the script, alongside Ed Solomon.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/venom-movie-now-called-venom-carnage

[JackWhisper]

Female.... driven?
Edit: Derp. I can't read.

[Tenlaar]

Unless you're spiderman and your idea of a reboot is to do the same exact storyline the first one did.

Hey, I didn't say they all used it, just that there are dozens or hundreds of story arcs to pull from in comics compared to one single story in Harry Potter or LOTR.

[Jhynnifer]

Sure, as long as it stars Famke Janssen.

I could live with that. I really liked their casting for the xmen movies, I just hated where they took the storylines.

[Jarvan]

I just got one question.. .since when is johnny Storm Black? Is he adopted, or is Sue? or do they share one parent? Ok, the Dad is black.. MAYBE the kids are biracial.. there is some really really white "black" people out there I guess.

Casting is really stupid sometimes. I mean, it's not like they are casting for a movie that was written JUST for the movies. There is source material. It would be like casting a white man as an american indian... oh wait, the stupid fuckers in hollywood did that too. Ok.. it would be like casting an asian man as Napoleon. It just makes no sense.

Has Johnny Storm EVER been black in the comics?

Could you imagine if they did a reboot of Shaft and put Bruce Willis in the lead role?

[Jhynnifer]

I just got one question.. .since when is johnny Storm Black? Is he adopted, or is Sue? or do they share one parent? Ok, the Dad is black.. MAYBE the kids are biracial.. there is some really really white "black" people out there I guess.

Casting is really stupid sometimes. I mean, it's not like they are casting for a movie that was written JUST for the movies. There is source material. It would be like casting a white man as an american indian... oh wait, the stupid fuckers in hollywood did that too. Ok.. it would be like casting an asian man as Napoleon. It just makes no sense.

Has Johnny Storm EVER been black in the comics?

Could you imagine if they did a reboot of Shaft and put Bruce Willis in the lead role?

Lois Lane went black for a comic book once... that's about all I got.7212

[Tenlaar]

Could you imagine if they did a reboot of Shaft and put Bruce Willis in the lead role?

Hell yeah I can. I'd see it.

[JackWhisper]

COMING! 2018!

MEL GIBSON IS... SHAFT!

SHUT YO MOUF!

[Jarvan]

Hell yeah I can. I'd see it.

I would likely see it too... like I will go see this movie. But still.. imagine how Al Sharpton would react.. there would be a Million man march on Hollywood. Obama would have his new GA looking into it for hate crimes or something.

[Back]

I would likely see it too... like I will go see this movie. But still.. imagine how Al Sharpton would react.. there would be a Million man march on Hollywood. Obama would have his new GA looking into it for hate crimes or something.

Why do you have to fuck up every thread with your bullshit?

[Johnny Five]

Why do you have to fuck up every thread with your bullshit?

Why do movie producers have to change the color of a characters skin is what I think he is getting at...
I think he wants it to be as close to the the standards of the comic as possible/original story.

[Back]

Why do movie producers have to change the color of a characters skin is what I think he is getting at...

Thats not what I am saying. Thanks for trying.

[Johnny Five]

Thats not what I am saying. Thanks for trying.

Yes, yes it is.
http://i2.cdnds.net/12/18/618x464/movies_avengers_comic_to_screen_4.jpg

[Jhynnifer]

Yes, yes it is.
http://i2.cdnds.net/12/18/618x464/movies_avengers_comic_to_screen_4.jpg

HEY... they ran out of money for the cast budget and they knew he came cheap, OK?

[Johnny Five]

HEY... they ran out of money for the cast budget and they knew he came cheap, OK?

You are actually right! hahahah GO ROBERT DOWNEY JR!!!!!

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/37450/_1368113427.jpg

[Back]

[QUOTE=Johnny Five;1737959]Yes, yes it is.[quOTE]

You do not define what I say. That is not how this works. Continue to believe what you want. I define what I say.

[Tgo01]

You are actually right! hahahah GO ROBERT DOWNEY JR!!!!!

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/37450/_1368113427.jpg

What a world we live in where earning 4 million dollars is considered cheap. Pick me to play the next super hero! I'll do it for just half a million! Super cheap!

Also lol at Hawkeye being on screen for 12 minutes. Poor guy is considered a joke even on the big screen.

[Johnny Five]

What a world we live in where earning 4 million dollars is considered cheap. Pick me to play the next super hero! I'll do it for just half a million! Super cheap!

You can't SCRIPT your way through a movie.

[Tgo01]

You can't SCRIPT your way through a movie.

You don't know that!!

[Androidpk]

Why do movie producers have to change the color of a characters skin is what I think he is getting at...
I think he wants it to be as close to the the standards of the comic as possible/original story.

I'm on the fence about this sort of thing. In this particular case I don't care that they cast a black guy for that role. I am bummed about Scarlett Johansson being cast as Kusanagi in Ghost in the Shell, however.

[Latrinsorm]

I just got one question.. .since when is johnny Storm Black? Is he adopted, or is Sue? or do they share one parent? Ok, the Dad is black.. MAYBE the kids are biracial.. there is some really really white "black" people out there I guess.

Casting is really stupid sometimes. I mean, it's not like they are casting for a movie that was written JUST for the movies. There is source material. It would be like casting a white man as an american indian... oh wait, the stupid fuckers in hollywood did that too. Ok.. it would be like casting an asian man as Napoleon. It just makes no sense.

Has Johnny Storm EVER been black in the comics? Michael B. Jordan is a good actor, so they cast him. The end.
Could you imagine if they did a reboot of Shaft and put Bruce Willis in the lead role?I can imagine when they did a reboot of Batman and Harvey Dent changed from Billy Dee Williams to Tommy Lee Jones. Go ahead and google Al Sharpton's reaction, put your hypothetical to the test.

[SHAFT]

You have to include minorities these days, even if the source material doesn't call for it. You'll have sharpton and Jesse Jackson picketing outside your film if you don't. Or you could have that I should say.

I love to point out to my wife the commercials that show various ethnicities in the same commercial. You'll see a white person, black, Asian, Arab or Indian all in the same commercial. McDonald's stands out as an offender of that.

[Latrinsorm]

You have to include minorities these days, even if the source material doesn't call for it. You'll have sharpton and Jesse Jackson picketing outside your film if you don't. Or you could have that I should say.

I love to point out to my wife the commercials that show various ethnicities in the same commercial. You'll see a white person, black, Asian, Arab or Indian all in the same commercial. McDonald's stands out as an offender of that.How many minorities were in Superman Returns?

[SHAFT]

How many minorities were in Superman Returns?

I can think of one Indian guy.

[Taernath]

How many minorities were in Superman Returns?

Superman himself was Kryptonian, the ultimate minority. There's only one of them in the world! Until some other guys arrive.

[Jhynnifer]

You have to include minorities these days, even if the source material doesn't call for it. You'll have sharpton and Jesse Jackson picketing outside your film if you don't. Or you could have that I should say.

I love to point out to my wife the commercials that show various ethnicities in the same commercial. You'll see a white person, black, Asian, Arab or Indian all in the same commercial. McDonald's stands out as an offender of that.


Have you noticed the Caucasian vs black/latino McDonald's commercials?

[Jarvan]

My biggest gripe is still Johnny Depp. Like.. they couldn't find any Native Americans?

But still.. I think I know why they change the race of people in the movies.. I just don't think they should for the reason they do. I think they do it because so many of these stories have no black men in it at all. I mean, it's not like they couldn't have found a good white actor to be Nick fury. But if they had.. there would have been zero black people in the movie really. Basically, it's PCness again. Which I just think is a really stupid reason.

I mean.. can anyone really imagine a Hispanic Jame Bond? Or.. maybe due to today's society, he should be Muslim. Now THAT should make sense. (rolls eyes)

[Jarvan]

Michael B. Jordan is a good actor, so they cast him. The end.I can imagine when they did a reboot of Batman and Harvey Dent changed from Billy Dee Williams to Tommy Lee Jones. Go ahead and google Al Sharpton's reaction, put your hypothetical to the test.

Two face was never black in the comics. Sorry, try again.

[Androidpk]

My biggest gripe is still Johnny Depp. Like.. they couldn't find any Native Americans?

But still.. I think I know why they change the race of people in the movies.. I just don't think they should for the reason they do. I think they do it because so many of these stories have no black men in it at all. I mean, it's not like they couldn't have found a good white actor to be Nick fury. But if they had.. there would have been zero black people in the movie really. Basically, it's PCness again. Which I just think is a really stupid reason.

I mean.. can anyone really imagine a Hispanic Jame Bond? Or.. maybe due to today's society, he should be Muslim. Now THAT should make sense. (rolls eyes)

The next James Bond might be black.

[JackWhisper]

Have you noticed the Caucasian vs black/latino McDonald's commercials?

KFC trumps that!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5vx2itH49s

[Androidpk]

How is that racist?

[JackWhisper]

BTW, I really don't mean to naysay or any of that, but have you guys actively collected the source material from 20-50 years ago? 95+% of characters, both major and minor, were white. It's just what was done. Ethnic diversity was not a THING until recently *in the eyes of our country, and all that politically correct shit*. I don't mind them changing actors racial background because, in the end, it's moot. It doesn't effect how the story goes. Or it doesn't effect in such a way that anyone really cares.

That being said...

Johnny Depp as an Indian *WAS* completely stupid. Just because Johnny Depp *IS* completely stupid.
Scarlet Johansson as Kusanagi for Ghost in the Shell.... does NOT make sense. I'd say why but it'd come off really stupid. If you watched the series and like GITS, you know why a white chick can't be Kusanagi.

[JackWhisper]

How is that racist?

Something about black people loving chicken so much they dance. I donno. There's white guys in it too!

[Androidpk]

Well apparently in the movie her name won't be Motoko Kusanagi.

[JackWhisper]

That just makes it worse...

[Androidpk]

Just wait until they announce Johnny Depp cast as Batou.

[subzero]

No Jessica Alba? Out.

I didn't like her for Susan Storm anyway. I guess if you're going to turn around and make Torch a black guy (cause you can't have a movie without a black guy!), there shouldn't be too much wrong with changing Susan from a blonde-haired white girl to a Mexican, but it's not how I'd have done it.


Kate Mara > Jessica Alba

Eh...


I'm not tired of superhero movies... I'm tired of rebooted superhero movies.

Spiderman is going to be rebooted again if they add him to wtfever cross-over immersion bullshit they are discussing... now fantastic four.... Hulk's been done, what 3-4 times now?

Here's the thing. Fox and Sony have to use their license or they'll lose it. Once they lose the rights to X-Men/mutants, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man, they won't get them back. Marvel sold those when they were having financial troubles and big daddy Disney won't let that shit out of his grasp if it comes back. So with these movies essentially being guaranteed wins, they're going to do what is necessary to maintain their movie rights. In other words, sit back and enjoy the reboots, cause that's what you're going to get from those franchises.


Give me more movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Iron Man movie. I only liked the "reboot" of xmen because Fox fucked up the original so hard it wasn't fixable.

On the Marvel side of things, I believe that's what they're going to do. It doesn't make sense to me that they're planning to make movies based on Ms. Marvel, Doctor Strange, Wasp and Ant-Man because they seem to me like they'd be lesser known characters. But then again, who the hell knew about the Guardians before the movie came around? When I first heard about Rocket Raccoon, I thought it was a bad joke.


Also: Not a huge fan of their casting on this one, I really don't like the guy they've got playing Mr Fantastic.

Agreed. Looks like a dork fresh out of high school or something. Might have been a great Cyclops.


I don't really consider Guardians of the Galaxy so much a super hero movie. I mean, sure it is in the genre I guess... But everyone was just sorta... Regular. They didn't really have super powers and stuff.

Eh, I kinda feel ya. Drax is probably the one who most fits the mold you're looking for, but the movie didn't really show anything other than his strength. On the other hand, you are talking about a couple of green aliens with, at the very least, super-human strength, a bio-engineered talking raccoon with a weapons fetish, a size-changing, regenerating plant that communicates with other plants (I suppose he can 'talk' with humanoids, too) who apparently can bring the dead back to life, and a dude that can survive in space without a space suit. I suppose they're fairly plain in comparison with characters like the X-Men or Fantastic Four, but if Captain America counts... :shrug:


I'm sick of Wolverine.

I hear he's supposed to actually die a nice, long (I don't think there is such a thing as permanent death in comics) death some time this year. I guess he's slated to stay dead, but I have a hard time envisioning them putting a cash-cow character like that out to pasture just because he's been around forever or whatever the reasoning is.


Yeah, I would much rather see some actual new superhero movies. About the only thing I actually want to see rebooted is Green Lantern because it has such potential and good gravy was it wasted. Of the coming years lineup I'm really looking forward to (and hoping they don't screw up) The Flash, Doctor Strange, Gambit, Black Panther, Venom: Carnage, and Shazam.

I like Gambit. Would kinda like to see a Nightcrawler movie, too, though I sort of doubt that will happen while Fox has the X-Men/mutant rights. There could be a Deadpool movie in the future as well.


Gambit has always been tied with Nightcrawler (THAT could be a sweet ass movie too - him taking out the Secret Service was the best part in the first X-Men trilogy) for my favorite of the X-Men and one of my favorite heroes in general. I really hope they do that one well.

:thumbup:


Yes please.

[Psylocke pic]

An X-Force movie would pretty much kick ass. Wolverine, Psylocke, Archangel, Deadpool. Hell, I think Nightcrawler was part of X-Force at one point, too.


You know what they need to do? A full-blown Venom and Carnage arc. I would pay to see that. Carnage was awesomely insane.

Carnage-Man, Carnage-Man, does whatever a Carnage can.


I just got one question.. .since when is johnny Storm Black? Is he adopted, or is Sue? or do they share one parent? Ok, the Dad is black.. MAYBE the kids are biracial.. there is some really really white "black" people out there I guess.

Casting is really stupid sometimes. I mean, it's not like they are casting for a movie that was written JUST for the movies. There is source material. It would be like casting a white man as an american indian... oh wait, the stupid fuckers in hollywood did that too. Ok.. it would be like casting an asian man as Napoleon. It just makes no sense.

Has Johnny Storm EVER been black in the comics?

Could you imagine if they did a reboot of Shaft and put Bruce Willis in the lead role?

We should get a white Blade reboot!


I don't mind them changing actors racial background because, in the end, it's moot. It doesn't effect how the story goes. Or it doesn't effect in such a way that anyone really cares.


Well, I suppose you could always have a white Susan Storm whose brother is a black Johnny Storm. Maybe he's not supposed to be black so much as burnt, what with all the being on fire so often and whatnot. I'm generally not a fan of these sort of things changing just for the sake of making a change. For some reason though, I don't mind Samuel Jackson being Fury.

...and now let's see how long this stupid post is. Thanks for dragging me into this, bungholes!

[JackWhisper]

My eyes are burning. Jesus the length.

[subzero]

My eyes are burning. Jesus the length.

You can't call me on something that I already called meself on! Beat it, bum.

[Androidpk]

You lost me at eh.

[JackWhisper]

You can't call me on something that I already called meself on! Beat it, bum.


Fine.

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Scorpion > Subzero. Suck it!

[subzero]

Fine.

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Scorpion > Subzero. Suck it!

Mhm. Which is why Scorpion had to be brought back to life.

[Jhynnifer]

Just wait until they announce Johnny Depp cast as Batou.


Is that really any worse than Channing Tatum as Gambit?

[Jarvan]

On the Marvel side of things, I believe that's what they're going to do. It doesn't make sense to me that they're planning to make movies based on Ms. Marvel, Doctor Strange, Wasp and Ant-Man because they seem to me like they'd be lesser known characters. But then again, who the hell knew about the Guardians before the movie came around? When I first heard about Rocket Raccoon, I thought it was a bad joke.



I much preferred the original Guardians of the Galaxy. But... apparently they decided that since it was set in like 3100.. and a different timeline.. they had to change the people in the comic. And frankly.. it couldn't have then tied in with the Thanos storyline. But I mean come on.. the original was SOOOOO much better. Wolverine still alive.. but old. Mr Wonder as well. Spiderman a semi bad guy.. and the last hero standing when martians invaded earth. He fucked up the martians shit for attacking Manhattan. Also.. the Heroes had actual powers. Sure.. Drax is supposed to be super strong... course.. if you call what he was like in this movie super strong... Back is super strong. Gamora supposed to be strong, agile, and a master martial artist... ok, plausible. NO real "powers" but then again like you said.. same for the Cap.

None of them can shoot energy blasts.. or fly. So "Super" is not really fitting. Well.. Starlord can't for now. Who knows where they are going with it tho.

[subzero]

None of them can shoot energy blasts.. or fly. So "Super" is not really fitting. Well.. Starlord can't for now. Who knows where they are going with it tho.

It's pretty fitting that those two traits are the ones mentioned as criteria for the whole 'super' label.

http://marvel.com/universe/Drax

"Drax can fly by harnessing cosmic energy as a propulsion source."

"Drax can also harness his cosmic energy and project it through his arms as concussive blasts. The maximum amount of force Drax can project is not known; he can, however, project enough energy to shatter large, ferrous meteors. It is unknown if he has retained this ability in his current form."

[JackWhisper]

Mhm. Which is why Scorpion had to be brought back to life.


Which is why Sub zero died to his own move, and Scorpion just keeps on truckin'!

[Latrinsorm]

Spoilers.
BTW, I really don't mean to naysay or any of that, but have you guys actively collected the source material from 20-50 years ago? 95+% of characters, both major and minor, were white. It's just what was done. Ethnic diversity was not a THING until recently *in the eyes of our country, and all that politically correct shit*. I don't mind them changing actors racial background because, in the end, it's moot. It doesn't effect how the story goes. Or it doesn't effect in such a way that anyone really cares.

That being said...

Johnny Depp as an Indian *WAS* completely stupid. Just because Johnny Depp *IS* completely stupid.
Scarlet Johansson as Kusanagi for Ghost in the Shell.... does NOT make sense. I'd say why but it'd come off really stupid. If you watched the series and like GITS, you know why a white chick can't be Kusanagi.Spoilers.

Kusanagi was never an adult. She was able to choose everything about her adult body, and (especially in the second season) she was clearly down with being amazingly beautiful. Scarlett Johansson's body is an excellent choice for a woman that cares about her appearance. The idea that Kusanagi would recoil at having the appearance of a white person is absurd: she had purple hair, for Pete's sake. This is not a person who was married to traditional Japanese appearance, and on top of all that she worked on an explicitly international team.

End spoilers.
Two face was never black in the comics. Sorry, try again.You asked what would happen if a black character was changed to white in a reboot. I told you how that has already happened, and no one cared. You ignored data that disagreed with your preconceived notions. These things happen.
I can think of one Indian guy.And did Al Sharpton picket the film?
I didn't like her for Susan Storm anyway. I guess if you're going to turn around and make Torch a black guy (cause you can't have a movie without a black guy!), there shouldn't be too much wrong with changing Susan from a blonde-haired white girl to a Mexican, but it's not how I'd have done it.Jessica Alba is American.

[Androidpk]

She has the mentality of an adult.

[SHAFT]

Latrin, picketing superman returns is at the top of sharptons to-do list. I assure you. As soon he finds time...

[Androidpk]

Latrin, picketing superman returns is at the top of sharptons to-do list. I assure you. As soon he finds time...

Bladerunner 2 coming out in 2016.

[subzero]

Jessica Alba is American.

Yes, born in America to a Mexican father. Plus, American isn't exactly considered a race.


Latrin, picketing superman returns is at the top of sharptons to-do list. I assure you. As soon he finds time...

Hey, they had a black Superman for a while back when the original 'died'. They should make the movie about that one.

[Androidpk]

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100606081904/uncyclopedia/images/a/ad/Black-superman.jpg

[Latrinsorm]

Yes, born in America to a Mexican father. Plus, American isn't exactly considered a race.Neither is Mexican.
Latrin, picketing superman returns is at the top of sharptons to-do list. I assure you. As soon he finds time...Uh huh. :)

[subzero]

Neither is Mexican.

Mexican, half-Mexican... they all look the same!

[Latrinsorm]

Mexican, half-Mexican... they all look the same!Then why do you care who's cast? :)

[Androidpk]

Then why do you care who's cast? :)

For me it is not so much the looks but the acting. I'm having trouble setting ScarJo as Motoko.

[subzero]

Then why do you care who's cast? :)

Because neither a Mexican or half-Mexican look like white-ass Susan Storm!

[Jarvan]

You asked what would happen if a black character was changed to white in a reboot. I told you how that has already happened, and no one cared. You ignored data that disagreed with your preconceived notions. These things happen.

Ahh.. but Two face was NOT a black character. Try again when a Character that is written as a Black person, is changed to a white person. Not when an Actor is changed. Thank you, try again.

[Jarvan]

Because neither a Mexican or half-Mexican look like white-ass Susan Storm!

but race shouldn't matter, didn't you know that?

Next up.. an Asian Superman, and a Hispanic Bruce Wayne. A Black Wolverine, a White Storm (God.. can you imagine the outrage over THAT).. and an Eskimo Professor X. PC at it's Finest!!

[subzero]

So, sorry to rain on any Famke Jansen parades, but it appears she's not going to be in the next flick. Looks like the next Jean Grey is going to be the girl who plays Sansa Stark.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/X-Men-Apocalypse-Casts-Its-Cyclops-Storm-Jean-Grey-69341.html

[Androidpk]

Ugh

[JackWhisper]

And my desire to see the reboot just went kaput.

[JackWhisper]

Ahh.. but Two face was NOT a black character. Try again when a Character that is written as a Black person, is changed to a white person. Not when an Actor is changed. Thank you, try again.


In our civilization... there is only one man that can cross the race barrier with such ease! ONE MAN!

That man is...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHxAuCjiDlA

Lincoln Osiris.