OHB and Shield Post Cap build

[Lord Orbstar]

How does this look? I am really interested in seeing how the shield specializations will help. I plan on hunting in Nelemar or OTF since I have never been to teh scatter and know nothing about it. I like to group up and be the tank. i forget the spellburst formulas, but I should be able to wear some wizard spells safely with my magic skills trained thus. I hope.


SKILLS @11.4 million exp

Liannonuel (at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 310 210
Shield Use.........................| 403 303
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Blunt Weapons......................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 105 25
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 160 60
Physical Fitness...................| 403 303
Dodging............................| 306 206
Arcane Symbols.....................| 96 22
Magic Item Use.....................| 96 22
Harness Power......................| 120 30
Elemental Mana Control.............| 70 15
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 145 45
Swimming...........................| 150 50

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 20
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COMBAT MANUEVERS

Disarm Weapon disarm 5
Feint feint 5
Specialization I wspec1 4
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 1
Combat Toughness toughness 1
Surge of Strength surge 3
Block Mastery bmastery 3
Cunning Defense cdefense 1
Burst of Swiftness burst 3

Griffin's Voice griffin 1

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SHIELD SPECIALIZATIONS


Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Tower Shield Focus tfocus 5
Shield Bash bash 2
Shield Charge charge 5
Prop Up prop 3
Adamantine Bulwark bulwark 1
Shield Riposte riposte 3
Shield Forward forward 3
Deflection Training dtraining 3
Deflection Mastery dmastery 2
Spell Block spellblock 2
Shield Mind mind 1
Protective Wall pwall 2
Shield Trample trample 5
Shield Trample Mastery tmastery 1
Steely Resolve resolve 1
Phalanx phalanx 1

Available Shield Training Points: 3

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ARMOR SKILLS

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Crush Protection crush 4
Armor Reinforcement reinforcement 2

Available Armor Training Points: 20

[Astray]

I think Shield Riposte and Bash are worth looking into. Just in case you have things swinging at you in offensive. Riposte at level 3 will give it a bash that is equal to your Shield Bash level with 100% retaliation rank.

So say you're overwhelmed and you have both at max, you can offer a critter that's in offensive a good smack in the mouth with a shield.

[Jeril]

Any particular reason to be training those MnS? Spells are great and all but not something I'd suggest you do until you fill in all your primary physical skills. Using a one-handed weapon, I'd prefer to have 135 ranks of MoC for five swings on your focused strike. Also, why 15 ranks of EMC? I have 10 of each SMC and EMC so that I have perfect share with anyone who has 100 ranks of more in them. 15, just seems like an odd number to me.

Here are both my maneuver lists:
Jeril, your Shield Specialization training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Tower Shield Focus tfocus 3
Shield Bash bash 4
Shield Charge charge 3
Shield Push push 1
Prop Up prop 3
Adamantine Bulwark bulwark 3
Deflection Training dtraining 3
Deflection Mastery dmastery 4
Block the Elements eblock 2
Deflect the Elements deflect 2
Guard Mastery gmastery 2
Tortoise Stance tortoise 3
Protective Wall pwall 1

Available Shield Training Points: 5
>cman info
Jeril, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Movement cmovement 2
Combat Focus focus 5
Hamstring hamstring 2
Charge charge 4
Subdual Strike sstrike 2
Specialization I wspec1 5
Side by Side sidebyside 2
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 2
Bull Rush bullrush 2
Surge of Strength surge 1
Block Mastery bmastery 2
Cunning Defense cdefense 4
Griffin's Voice griffin 3

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 3

I don't think I've really seen either elemental skill do anything for me and am pondering just dropping them to free up more points to put else where.

[loxe]

I use shield strike (with shield strike mastery) all the time with focused mstrike and love it.

[Lord Orbstar]

Guild Skills versus CMANs: is there a difference? I think i may be wasting CMAN points by having powers duplicated in my guild skills. He is a master in all guild skills, so should I not have taken feint, disarm, etc?

[Lord Orbstar]

I have a 67 wizard that I will be hunting with and GUARDing. she is not at 100 ranks of EMC, so I thought 15 ranks of share on the warrior would help. I havent played a capped warrior in Nelemar, but when I had my capped monk and wizard, it was TD spells and manuevers that killed. That is why I went up to 120 in the MnS list. My wizard can provide strenght, blurs and brilliants as needed up to spell burst. Jeril, do you think that MoC and 3x dodge is more important than the magics? I am using unpadded 7x plate armor and a 5x tower. I still need to get my shield ensorcelled actually to use some of those shield spec cmans. oh, for a weapon, I have a vanilla 7x morningstar.

[Jeril]

I have a 67 wizard that I will be hunting with and GUARDing. she is not at 100 ranks of EMC, so I thought 15 ranks of share on the warrior would help. I havent played a capped warrior in Nelemar, but when I had my capped monk and wizard, it was TD spells and manuevers that killed. That is why I went up to 120 in the MnS list. My wizard can provide strenght, blurs and brilliants as needed up to spell burst. Jeril, do you think that MoC and 3x dodge is more important than the magics? I am using unpadded 7x plate armor and a 5x tower. I still need to get my shield ensorcelled actually to use some of those shield spec cmans. oh, for a weapon, I have a vanilla 7x morningstar.

Yes, you are wasting points by training in something you have mastered through the guild, guild versions are much better as you have 6.3 ranks in them vs 5.

You can train in magic skills more cheaply to offset spell burst then the cost of training those spells is the biggest thing. And there is nothing in the 100s circle that you can't get from someone else, although 120 would have to be imbedded. I say 3x dodge, 3x armor, and 2x perception before doing spells because they hurt your redux and you may as well make yourself as hard to hit as you can. Hunting in Nelemar and sticking to the third floor the only spell that will be dangerous is 335, so if you see a red mist in the room with you, move. Radicals are the ones who cast it and it is pretty hard to miss.

If you plan to guard someone a lot I'd suggest you look into guard mastery and tortoise stance. Spell block seems like a waste to me as bolt spells shouldn't be an issue for you or your wizard, I imagine it looks cool though. Unless they've changed phalanx I wouldn't train it and I don't know of anyone else who has. Shield forward seems like a bit of a waste as you shouldn't be getting hit by any AS attacks and shield riposte about the same way. I see spell mind as a waste because you have to be in defensive for it to work instead of killing whatever is attacking you. The duration is also pretty short at 10 seconds which is about enough time for one cast, maybe two, and at best the cool down is 45 seconds.

[Donquix]

curious jeril, no trample? that shit is amazeballs.

[Aganii]

Can warriors get burst of swiftness?

[Roblar]

No, monk only.

[Archigeek]

I would take the duplicate cman points and put them into Griffin's voice. I also agree that you should have guard mastery and tortoise stance if you are regularly hunting with someone else. Trample is awesome, max it out, though if your partner ewave constantly, it may be a little redundant.

Spend some of those minor spirit tp's on more armor training and max out the right resistance for the area you plan to hunt.

[Aganii]

No, monk only.

Thats what I thought but it is in the OP CMAN list

[Roblar]

Ah, must have converted back from monk and hasn't lost it yet. Another post recently showed it is a bug.

[Lord Orbstar]

Now I need a FixSkills Potion... anyone have one for a little silver and a little paypal?