AT&T wants to know why a town is building a 1Gbps network when it already offers 6Mbp

[Androidpk]

I want to see this happen more often. Municipal fiber, not retarded telecoms.

Why is one bandwidth-hungry town building its own 1Gbps fiber network for its citizens when AT&T already offers them 6Mbps DSL? That’s the question AT&T would like to ask city leaders in Chanute, Kansas, a small town of roughly 9,000 people that is petitioning the state to allow it to offer greater access to the high-speed fiber network that it built to support town utility operations.

https://bgr.com/2014/12/03/att-vs-municipal-fiber/

[Buckwheet]

I want to see this happen more often. Municipal fiber, not retarded telecoms.

Why is one bandwidth-hungry town building its own 1Gbps fiber network for its citizens when AT&T already offers them 6Mbps DSL? That’s the question AT&T would like to ask city leaders in Chanute, Kansas, a small town of roughly 9,000 people that is petitioning the state to allow it to offer greater access to the high-speed fiber network that it built to support town utility operations.

https://bgr.com/2014/12/03/att-vs-municipal-fiber/

These sound great in theory but they can really back fire.

I have 10gbps fiber 1 city block from my neighborhood but I can't get service from it. Why? Because the county built the network and then thought other providers would step in and provide the service to residential customers. They call them "last mile" providers and nobody has signed on to do that part.

http://www.startribune.com/local/north/166668956.html

I know the article is from 2012, but I I like that fact. The network was completed two years ago, and the area we are in is exploding with residential growth and the city/county is having to re-do the major streets that feed the area but are not going to bring the fiber to these new residential areas. All the homes being built are 500k+. There is no DSL service higher than 7mbs by the local telecom so everyone is stuck with $70 a month Comcast. Since the area is also newer/more remote we don't even have the full array of Comcast services available. You can't get the 105 or 150 service from them.

Additionally, MN is being considered as one of the spinoff areas due to the Comcast Time Warner merger and we would be combined with a currently inferior provider, Charter. In MN charter doesn't have the large customer base to turn on higher speeds and Comcast is currently not expanding them to our area. So we are left with the announced gbit fiber from Centurylink that has been hammered recently in the news for being "fiber to the press" and not actually delivering service.

There have been trucks in my neighborhood for two weeks straight doing work for CenturyLink and all they are doing is running the lines to the homes and all that will be available for service is the 7mbs. I asked the techs what is going on with that and they said that they have no incentive to run better to the area because the municipality could at anytime change their mind on providing the end user services and they don't want to make the investment in an area that they could just lose out on.

So while I agree its a great idea in theory, actually paying the tax dollars and not getting anything from it has been pretty shitty.



On June 21, 2012 the Connect Anoka County Project sponsored a meeting at the Anoka County Government Center in which Last Mile providers had an opportunity to speak to local leaders and the public about services they could offer to get broadband access to homes and business within their communities. The Last Mile providers present included:
• U-REKA Broadband
• Oppenheimer
• Hiawatha Broadband(HBC)
• Velocity Telephone
• Century Link
• IP House
• TWTelcom
• Midcontinent Business Solutions
• Comcast


There has been no meeting since this June 2012 meeting because all the providers present stated the municipality was a competitor and not a customer. So something like 90% of the fiber is sitting there doing nothing.

[Atlanteax]

I want to see this happen more often. Municipal fiber, not retarded telecoms.

Why is one bandwidth-hungry town building its own 1Gbps fiber network for its citizens when AT&T already offers them 6Mbps DSL? That’s the question AT&T would like to ask city leaders in Chanute, Kansas, a small town of roughly 9,000 people that is petitioning the state to allow it to offer greater access to the high-speed fiber network that it built to support town utility operations.

https://bgr.com/2014/12/03/att-vs-municipal-fiber/

AT&T's behavior demonstrates the need for 'net neutrality'.

[Back]

All about the $.

[Androidpk]

These sound great in theory but they can really back fire.

I have 10gbps fiber 1 city block from my neighborhood but I can't get service from it. Why? Because the county built the network and then thought other providers would step in and provide the service to residential customers. They call them "last mile" providers and nobody has signed on to do that part.

http://www.startribune.com/local/north/166668956.html

I know the article is from 2012, but I I like that fact. The network was completed two years ago, and the area we are in is exploding with residential growth and the city/county is having to re-do the major streets that feed the area but are not going to bring the fiber to these new residential areas. All the homes being built are 500k+. There is no DSL service higher than 7mbs by the local telecom so everyone is stuck with $70 a month Comcast. Since the area is also newer/more remote we don't even have the full array of Comcast services available. You can't get the 105 or 150 service from them.

Additionally, MN is being considered as one of the spinoff areas due to the Comcast Time Warner merger and we would be combined with a currently inferior provider, Charter. In MN charter doesn't have the large customer base to turn on higher speeds and Comcast is currently not expanding them to our area. So we are left with the announced gbit fiber from Centurylink that has been hammered recently in the news for being "fiber to the press" and not actually delivering service.

There have been trucks in my neighborhood for two weeks straight doing work for CenturyLink and all they are doing is running the lines to the homes and all that will be available for service is the 7mbs. I asked the techs what is going on with that and they said that they have no incentive to run better to the area because the municipality could at anytime change their mind on providing the end user services and they don't want to make the investment in an area that they could just lose out on.

So while I agree its a great idea in theory, actually paying the tax dollars and not getting anything from it has been pretty shitty.

Petition the town to expand?

[Buckwheet]

Petition the town to expand?

Its not town owned, its county owned. They have ended the project where it stands.

[JackWhisper]

In Alaska almost the entire state is controlled *not the whole thing, but a very large portion of it* by a single family business who own the rights for internet connection. They have refused contracts from Comcast and several other companies because, being the only person out there, getting to charge by-the-MB data plans for internet is making them stupid fucking wealthy. And the only reason I know this is because my best friend lived there for several years working for the Air Force, and he bitched about it, justifiably, all the time.

All about the $.

[Androidpk]

Its not town owned, its county owned. They have ended the project where it stands.

Petition the county!

[Back]

In Alaska almost the entire state is controlled *not the whole thing, but a very large portion of it* by a single family business who own the rights for internet connection. They have refused contracts from Comcast and several other companies because, being the only person out there, getting to charge by-the-MB data plans for internet is making them stupid fucking wealthy. And the only reason I know this is because my best friend lived there for several years working for the Air Force, and he bitched about it, justifiably, all the time.

All about the $.

If things go bad thats where I'm going. Alaska.

[Atlanteax]

If things go bad thats where I'm going. Alaska.

For your internet access to be held hostage?

[Back]

For your internet access to be held hostage?

If things get bad there will be no internet access.

[AnticorRifling]

If things go bad thats where I'm going. Alaska.

To do what exactly? I really want to hear this survival plan.

[Parkbandit]

To do what exactly? I really want to hear this survival plan.

Hey, hey, hey.. he watched a few episodes of "Walking Dead".

He will be fine.

[Buckwheet]

Hey, hey, hey.. he watched a few episodes of "Walking Dead".

He will be fine.

I thought it was a few episodes of Wild Alaska not Walking Dead.

[Androidpk]

To do what exactly? I really want to hear this survival plan.

Move in with tisket.

[Velfi]

In Alaska almost the entire state is controlled *not the whole thing, but a very large portion of it* by a single family business who own the rights for internet connection. They have refused contracts from Comcast and several other companies because, being the only person out there, getting to charge by-the-MB data plans for internet is making them stupid fucking wealthy. And the only reason I know this is because my best friend lived there for several years working for the Air Force, and he bitched about it, justifiably, all the time.

All about the $.

Capitalism, oorah!

[Viekn]

From the OP article..."What’s more, AT&T says that it hasn’t taken an official position on the fiber network and is simply seeking out more information on why the town might be interested in building such a network and how it might impact AT&T’s own DSL business."

LOL, why the fuck do you think? There are too many idiots in this world with powerful positions.