Sylinar's Spire

[Moonwitch]

I'm very excited to announce a new pay "quest" of sorts! Tickets are not yet on sale, but expect to see an announcement about that soon. The first run dates are tentatively planned for this very month!

What is this new event, you ask? Keep reading!



Somewhere in the northern Dragonspine, there existed a school for the advanced teaching of alchemy, prestidigitation, and thaumaturgy. Young wizards traveled from across the lands to study and practice with the greatest magical masters. Rare ingredients were shared, incantations were whispered around warm fires, and apprentices, in time, became masters themselves. But over the years, the halls grew silent. The students no longer came. The old masters moved on, or retired to the cold stone towers. Eventually, even the name of the school itself was lost to antiquity…

Except for Sylinar, professor and librarian. Sylinar, whose home has been the tower that bears his name since a time few can recall. The venerable professor and cataloger of the magical annals has descended the spiraling stairs of the Spire, eager to raise funds in the hope of restoring the institution to its former greatness. Sylinar will open his doors to a small number of curious adventurers, offering a glimpse of his home and a taste of his magical skill.

Up to 50 adventurers can sign up for each of Sylinar’s four-hour tours. There is a three service limit for each account. Offered services are adding up to ten (10) charges to recharge an enhancive item, adding ten (10) charges or 10% of maximum charge capacity (whichever is greater) to an enhancive item, making a crumbly enhancive item permanent (will not crumble after last charge is used), or removing a single enhancive property from an item.

There will be a few shops to peruse, including items such as enhancive edibles, basic clothing, climate wear, scrolls, and scroll tubes.

Finally, every visitor will receive a special item free of charge: a stylized golden griffin pin. This item will hide any worn, non-container, non-combat gear, non-scripted enhancive item, as well as being able to indicate if a held item is enhancive.




~GM Liia, really excited. Seriously.
Team 3P, Paid Events Guru


This message was originally posted in Quests/Sagas/Events, Sylinar's Spire. To discuss the above, follow the link below.

http://forums.play.net/forums/19/218/3262/view/16

[Viekn]

Hell's yeah!

[Fallen]

Nice.

[Wrathbringer]

Not something I'd be interested in, but the premise is cool for those into that sort of thing. Kudos to simu for keeping it interesting. Night at the Museum was getting stale.

[SHAFT]

Not something I'd be interested in, but the premise is cool for those into that sort of thing. Kudos to simu for keeping it interesting. Night at the Museum was getting stale.

You'll pony up the cash for this and you'll enjoy this little event damnit!

[Wrathbringer]

You'll pony up the cash for this and you'll enjoy this little event damnit!

lol no, no I won't. I've never really used enhancives or played any kind of pure that might alchemy, and that sounds like the core audience for this to me.

edit: I do want one of those pins though.

[Moonwitch]

I wonder if the pins will attune? I hope not.

[Allereli]

I wonder if the pins will attune? I hope not.

they attune for 24 hours so you can't keep passing it between accounts I guess

[TheLastShamurai]

Count me excited!

[bremerial]

I've altered all my enhansives and only wear them when hunting. But if they ever put an enhansive 'turn off' button on the pins in the future, I'd be interested in this. Would save all that putting on and taking off...not that that takes any more than three seconds hehe - but I am a self confessed lazy bones!

The idea is Inventive though.

[Jarvan]

I've altered all my enhansives and only wear them when hunting. But if they ever put an enhansive 'turn off' button on the pins in the future, I'd be interested in this. Would save all that putting on and taking off...not that that takes any more than three seconds hehe - but I am a self confessed lazy bones!

The idea is Inventive though.

Idea was stolen from DR actually.

I have a few items in DR like this. One hides all armor/weapons when used, another hides all containers. There are other types as well.

Does make it easy to look like your ready for a ball, and yet still have your weapons and armor on and ready.

Course my favorite fluff item like that I wouldn't mind seeing in GS is the portable cabinet. Load an outfit into it, and you can rub it to switch between what you are wearing and what is in the cabinet.

[bremerial]

Idea was stolen from DR actually.

I have a few items in DR like this. One hides all armor/weapons when used, another hides all containers. There are other types as well.

Does make it easy to look like your ready for a ball, and yet still have your weapons and armor on and ready.

Course my favorite fluff item like that I wouldn't mind seeing in GS is the portable cabinet. Load an outfit into it, and you can rub it to switch between what you are wearing and what is in the cabinet.

Now one that hides away armor I'd love. I clunk around in my armor all the time. From a RP perspective it makes sense to take it off once in a while. But I would forget to put it back on, or - god forbid - lose it, so I keep it on. An easier and safer way to appear as if I am not wearing it is one that I would jump at

[bremerial]

Yeah I know there are armor concealers. Not found one I could wear which didn't require me removing something I am currently wearing.

[Viekn]

Yeah I know there are armor concealers. Not found one I could wear which didn't require me removing something I am currently wearing.

I get you there. I was EXTREMELY lucky to find a pinworm armor concealing jerkin that was significantly underpriced one day in player shops. That is why I check the shops daily just to see.

Also, "This item will hide any worn, non-container, non-combat gear, non-scripted enhancive item, as well as being able to indicate if a held item is enhancive." Does that mean ANY item I'm wearing that meets that criteria will be hidden, not just a single item? I could maybe see that coming in handy if I were to buy a pin holding sash that I didn't really want to be seen wearing; assuming those sashes aren't scripted. Plus, not having to run to Adv guild and "order 5" to check if an item is enhancive would be a nice perk.

[Roblar]

Does that mean ANY item I'm wearing that meets that criteria will be hidden, not just a single item?

Yes - though you can wave the pin at enhancives to hide specific ones. You also do not need to wear the hiding pin.

Pin sashes are scripted.

[TheLastShamurai]

Got my ticket! Anyone else going on the 25th!?

[Kithus]

Honestly for $30 hell no. This is getting out of hand. I was expecting a $15 to maybe $20 price tag for this. They've really jumped the shark pricing wise at this point.

[Allereli]

Honestly for $30 hell no. This is getting out of hand. I was expecting a $15 to maybe $20 price tag for this. They've really jumped the shark pricing wise at this point.

it's the exact same price as the Albatross runs.

[Kithus]

it's the exact same price as the Albatross runs.

Which are a complete fucking rip off too. How about actually giving us something for our massive fucking monthly subscription payment.

[Allereli]

Which are a complete fucking rip off too. How about actually giving us something for our massive fucking monthly subscription payment.

I just don't recall you having a hissy fit then. sell 3 million silvers and you have the cash for it

[Kithus]

I just don't recall you having a hissy fit then. sell 3 million silvers and you have the cash for it

I don't even know how to respond to that logic. Why don't they just sell silvers in the simucoin store, sell event tickets for silver and knock out the middle man at this point then?

[Fallen]

I don't even know how to respond to that logic. Why don't they just sell silvers in the simucoin store, sell event tickets for silver and knock out the middle man at this point then?

That'd poison the well and cause a run on silver prices, which would in turn chase out the silver merchants and end up costing them subs in the long term. DUH

[Jhynnifer]

I'm kind of confused about the pin.... it will hide ONE enhancive item, but it'll still take up the slot and you'll now be wearing the pin instead of the enhancive?

[neimanz1]

it hides ALL your enhancive that aren't special like scripted and clothing ones

[Jarvan]

so if you are a male giantman warrior and you are wearing 27 pins, a sapphire tiara and ruby slippers... all enhancive but not scripty..

you won't look like you belong in a off broadway cross dressing version of OZ.

[Androidpk]

it hides ALL your enhancive that aren't special like scripted and clothing ones

Ooh, that does sound nice.

[Silvean]

I spent some money on Albatross: (1) I have gone to EG two years in a row and received one service each time (2) I wanted the limit breaking deepening services for a particular item. I don't enjoy standing around waiting for spinners and long lines at EG; Albatross tickets allowed me to pay money for time.

For me, Simu prices do seem a bit high at times but I also just spent $250 on PS4 stuff and that seems high too. They'll charge what they can get away with. I don't think they were happy with the low attendance on some of those Albatross runs, so I'm a little surprised they didn't offer a slightly lower price on this new event.

[Moonwitch]

For me, Simu prices do seem a bit high at times but I also just spent $250 on PS4 stuff and that seems high too. They'll charge what they can get away with. I don't think they were happy with the low attendance on some of those Albatross runs, so I'm a little surprised they didn't offer a slightly lower price on this new event.


I believe their logic is....this is a new place to explore, there are a few shops and look you get a souvenir pin! I did the Albatross. I was not fond with the feel of it and I felt bad for the GM that had to do it. I hope this has a bit more storyline. They believe that a few players lust for enhancives will make it sell out. I'm more likely to spend the money to go look at the new area and explore the few shops. I think I own five enhancives across all my characters that I actually use. Of those three I only use if I need to drag out of unfogable areas.

They equate price with hours of GM time spent making an area. It's why they hike EG every time they redo it.

[Aequis]

The official folder for this event just disappeared. But prior to that happening, Wyrom seemed amenable to adding RtCF style enhancive swapping to the list of services. This is a public service announcement.

Edit: The folder didn't go anywhere. I'm an idiot. And I hate the BBS system used on the officials.

[Jhynnifer]

it hides ALL your enhancive that aren't special like scripted and clothing ones



I kind of just did something in my pants. Thank you for clarifying. =)

[Kithus]

I kind of just did something in my pants. Thank you for clarifying. =)

Tell us more.

[Jhynnifer]

Tell us more.

I would but I was afk scripting at the time and missed it.

[Androidpk]

Confirmed sharting!

[bremerial]

I believe their logic is....this is a new place to explore, there are a few shops and look you get a souvenir pin! I did the Albatross. I was not fond with the feel of it and I felt bad for the GM that had to do it. I hope this has a bit more storyline. They believe that a few players lust for enhancives will make it sell out. I'm more likely to spend the money to go look at the new area and explore the few shops. I think I own five enhancives across all my characters that I actually use. Of those three I only use if I need to drag out of unfogable areas.

They equate price with hours of GM time spent making an area. It's why they hike EG every time they redo it.

I think I have seven or eight enhancives of which 1 is scripted and wouldn't be covered by the pin.
I applaud the fact that new things / areas /shops are being provided but, as it stands at least, this isn't for me.
I'm quite happy to just keep going to the guild to charge my items with their existing charge and to move one room south to put them on and remove them.

With a few tweaks - already discussed and confirmed to be out of the scope of the current proposed pin - this pin would have been enough to lure me in. I mean hiding the wearing and removing of enhancives and allowing people to switch them off whilst wearing them....that would have been one killer pin!

I hope this event is enjoyed by all who attend though.

On a good note! I fully upgraded my adv gld badge. Totally forgot about doing this over the years and wouldn't have even thought to do so without all this enhancive talk!

[Allereli]

Liia did say something about a merchant to remove fluff scripts from enhancives

[Roblar]

Now go buy your tickets!



I wanted a lot of S.

Due to popular demand, a 5th service will be offered at the Spire. Enhancive Swapping will now be available for you to choose as one of your three services.

Strength to Wisdom (one to another)
Constitution, Dexterity, Agility, or Discipline (any one to another)
Logic, Intuition, or Influence (any one to another)
Any Weapons Skill, Except TWC or Multi-Opponent Combat, (any one to another)
Magic Item Use to Arcane Symbols (one to another)
Mana Controls - Elemental, Spiritual, Mental (one to another)
Any Lores (any one to another)

Conditions: Spell knowledge enhancives are not allowed in any sort of swapping. All restrictions on an item will remain. Enhancives must remain in the same increments, meaning no changing ranks to bonus. Item's that can't be recharged are not eligible. Fusion items are not eligible. Edible items are not eligible. Temp enhancives are not eligible (like the dachre). No scripted items that are hard coded enhancives (black ora weapons and some of the orbs offered at various Ebon Gate auctions in 2006/2009).


~Wyrom, APM

[Jarvan]

Now that's a nice addition.

[Merll]

anyone know why they dont let you swap aura?

[Jarvan]

anyone know why they dont let you swap aura?

Way to powerful I would think.

[Allereli]

you can also get up to 3 swaps, like the other services.

[Jarvan]

I foresee a huge slew of high bonus items coming out of this...

[SourD]

So adding 10% just means they'll last longer before you have to recharge? And what is adding 10 charges to recharge an enhansive item? Like when it dies you can charge it 10 times with out using bounty points? Sorry I'm dense.

[Roblar]

So adding 10% just means they'll last longer before you have to recharge?

Yes


what is adding 10 charges to recharge an enhansive item? Like when it dies you can charge it 10 times with out using bounty points?

Yes, charging it once but one charge = 10 charges to the item, just like 1 charging at the Adv Guild. This, however, would be a poor use of the event's services, unless you never do any guild bounties and don't expect to be around next monthish when theAdv Guild allows charging for silvers instead of bounty pts. You could even get fellow players to charge up your enhancives cheaper than that service.

[bremerial]

So adding 10% just means they'll last longer before you have to recharge? And what is adding 10 charges to recharge an enhansive item? Like when it dies you can charge it 10 times with out using bounty points? Sorry I'm dense.

My mother who was a teacher, always said that there are those who ask questions and those who wait in the hope that others will ask the questions they are afraid to ask.You're not dense!! You're one of the former rather than the latter. I didn't understand precisely what was being offered until I asked someone too.

;)

[SourD]

Thank you guys. Yeah I'd totally want to get this ranged helm switched to polearm anyway. As far as the pin I mean I don't see the big deal. I remove my enhancives when I'm not hunting. So when people look at me when I'm hunting they won't see my enhancives?

[Roblar]

Correct, some of your enhancives if they meet the criteria and you activate the pin.

Some people don't like extra fluff showing or wear it more often than just during hunts.

[SourD]

True I got ya. Activation would be cool

[bremerial]

The swapping choice adds a little to the mix and makes this a little more interesting. I can't wear anymore than the enhancives I am currently wearing as my slots are used up, short of wearing something totally inappropriate.

But with this swapping, if I had a blue pin with +5 dodge bonus and a red pin with + 6 dodge bonus, could I then transfer the +5 to the +6 making one item of +11 and thus allowing me to dump the redundant pin, thus freeing up a spot?

[crb]

The swapping choice adds a little to the mix and makes this a little more interesting. I can't wear anymore than the enhancives I am currently wearing as my slots are used up, short of wearing something totally inappropriate.

But with this swapping, if I had a blue pin with +5 dodge bonus and a red pin with + 6 dodge bonus, could I then transfer the +5 to the +6 making one item of +11 and thus allowing me to dump the redundant pin, thus freeing up a spot?

No.

But if you had a pin that was +5 to edged and +5 to blunts you could make it +10 to edged. You transfer things on a single item, not from one item to another. Though, that too would be a cool service.

[Fallen]

Did we ever find out if those pins attune?

[Wrathbringer]

Did we ever find out if those pins attune?

We did.

[Merll]

are you sure you can add one skill to another skill? i thought you could only swap one skill for another not add to an existing.

[Jarvan]

are you sure you can add one skill to another skill? i thought you could only swap one skill for another not add to an existing.

Wyrom has confirmed you can add skills if you swap a skill. It will increase the level requirements, but it can be done.

[sentral]

are spell knowledge items eligible for the 10% or 10 charge boost?

[Allereli]

they attune for 24 hours so you can't keep passing it between accounts I guess

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[Fallen]

they attune for 24 hours so you can't keep passing it between accounts I guess.

Thanks. I thought it was addressed, but I missed it in re-reading the thread.

[GS4-Seomanthe]

GS4-WYROM
Re: Sylinar's Spire: Capacity Question on 11/13/2014 06:07 AM PST
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>>What is the maximum capacity of charges an item may hold, and is there an easy way to determine what the current capacity is?

About 400. Premium enhancives start at 200. Most anything you find out of the treasure system is anywhere between 10 to 80. Giftbox items are 80 charges. But you'll need to do the research.


~Wyrom, APM

>>They call him Wyrom, not afraid to get dirty; work all day, in game by 5:30; loresongs eloquent, item embellishment, double speed development... ~Silvean

Can we add this to the Krakii enhancive article? I would if I were an editor...

[Allereli]

Can we add this to the Krakii enhancive article? I would if I were an editor...

added to the saved posts. I'll try to work it into the main page content at some point, but not really awake right now.

[sentral]

how long does a charge last?

[GS4-Seomanthe]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Allereli again.

Gracias =)

[nindon]

are you sure you can add one skill to another skill? i thought you could only swap one skill for another not add to an existing.

The way I understand it is that if you change a skill so that it is the same as a skill already on the item, then the two will be added together. For example, if an item has +5 to blunt ranks and +5 to edged ranks, then if you change the blunt to edged, you'll have an item with +10 edged ranks. I don't think bonuses and skills add. For example, if you have an item with +5 blunt bonus and +5 edged ranks, then if you convert the +5 blunt bonus to edged, you'll have an item with +5 edged bonus and +5 edged ranks.

[Roblar]

The way I understand it is that if you change a skill so that it is the same as a skill already on the item, then the two will be added together. For example, if an item has +5 to blunt ranks and +5 to edged ranks, then if you change the blunt to edged, you'll have an item with +10 edged ranks. I don't think bonuses and skills add. For example, if you have an item with +5 blunt bonus and +5 edged ranks, then if you convert the +5 blunt bonus to edged, you'll have an item with +5 edged bonus and +5 edged ranks.

This is correct

[Allereli]

have your items confirmed by a bard before the event ends so you have a chance to take them back in and get corrected immediately.

issues I found: enhancive properties not removed, brawling vambrace STR bonus restriction not changed to new weapon choice.

[meekee38]

Big time bump here with a question. Anyone know if perception can be swapped and what it would be eligible for?

[Allereli]

the swapping list is set. if something isn't on it, then it cannot be swapped.

[meekee38]

I appreciate the help:

D. Any Weapons Skill plus Spell Aiming, Except TWC or Multi-Opponent Combat, (any one to another)

I would consider perception a weapon skill for ranged and thrown weapons. Therefore, can it be swapped to any other weapon skill?

[Whirlin]

I appreciate the help:

D. Any Weapons Skill plus Spell Aiming, Except TWC or Multi-Opponent Combat, (any one to another)

I would consider perception a weapon skill for ranged and thrown weapons. Therefore, can it be swapped to any other weapon skill?

AS contributor is not the same as a weapon skill. It does not fit into group D.