trident avds - wrong on krakiipedia

[gilchristr]

So the avd of a trident one handed vs chain mail on krakiipedia lists 32. BUT:

You work your way into some shiny thick chain mail.
Roundtime: 15 sec.

Avignon thrusts with a sonic trident at you!
AS: +88 vs DS: +117 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +97 = +110
... and hits for 2 points of damage!
Glancing blow to your back.
That could have been worse.

** Avignon's trident unleashes a blast of sonic energy at you! **
... 70 points of damage!
Blow to abdomen breaks you almost in two!

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.

A quartet of burly dwarves stomp loudly in, closely followed by the Dwarven deputy.

With great ease, the Dwarven deputy grabs Avignon and shackles his wrists.

"I have you now! You best come along quietly, or you'll face the consequences," says the Dwarven deputy.
The Dwarven deputy then drags him off.




As you can see, that avd is NOT 32. Also, you can see from the DF that the trident was being gripped one handed.

[Riltus]

Hmm. It looks like the AvD entries on KP were c/p'd from the official weapon guide on play.net. Not surprisingly, the official AvD trident entries are incorrect. Halberd AvDs are listed in the trident weapon table.

I've made the corrections for both one/two-hand grip trident AvDs on KP.

Mark

[Kithus]

Nice catch. Thanks for fixing that up Mark. It represents a nice little buff to tridents from my previous knowledge.

[Allereli]

Hmm. It looks like the AvD entries on KP were c/p'd from the official weapon guide on play.net. Not surprisingly, the official AvD trident entries are incorrect.

http://dartoidsworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/facepalm-kid-237x300.jpg

nominate Mark for GM

[stormcrow]

make sure to check with one that isn't a sonic weapon. Maybe there is the problem

[Kithus]

Mark can't become a GM. Then who would figure all this stuff out for players?

[gilchristr]

Does anyone have the damage ratio for the trident. I understand the spear is 80P/20S ... just trying to compare.

Thanks Mark on the AvDs!


EDIT:

Here is text from an old post from Menos on this:
"I ran the numbers on all the poles at one point. This is just from memory but I think I got something like 80/20 puncture/slash on spears, 80/20 puncture/crush on tridents, and 33/33/33 for halberds and nags. The numbers on spears and tridents were more like 78/22 but it tended closer to 80 than 75."


EDIT2 - wait he says puncture/crush on the trident... Krakiipedia lists puncture/slash on the trident.

[Riltus]

Does anyone have the damage ratio for the trident. I understand the spear is 80P/20S ... just trying to compare.

Thanks Mark on the AvDs!


EDIT:

Here is text from an old post from Menos on this:
"I ran the numbers on all the poles at one point. This is just from memory but I think I got something like 80/20 puncture/slash on spears, 80/20 puncture/crush on tridents, and 33/33/33 for halberds and nags. The numbers on spears and tridents were more like 78/22 but it tended closer to 80 than 75."


EDIT2 - wait he says puncture/crush on the trident... Krakiipedia lists puncture/slash on the trident.

Trident is puncture/slash.

Small sample (N = 72)

P = 48
S = 24

Mark

[gilchristr]

so 66/33. I thought it might be less piercing than the spear, but I didnt have enough deeds to face avignon again. Thanks Mark!