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Silvean
10-15-2014, 06:58 PM
Since we have opened a symposium on AFK scripting, I have a question. Have you ever reported someone for AFK scripting? How often? How did you know they were AFK?

I have reported 3 people:

1. I pulled a person to their feet while hunting and it obviously broke their script. They were non-responsive afterward.
2. I logged in at random hours throughout a day and saw the same person using my rest area. They exhibited strange movements and login/logoff behavior.
3. I was e-waved several times in a hunting area by a person who ended up being non-responsive.

What's the verdict? Do snitches get stitches? Was I right to do this? What do you do?

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:00 PM
OMG, you people are going thread crazy.

Buckwheet
10-15-2014, 07:02 PM
I don't report anyone.

Silvean
10-15-2014, 07:02 PM
Did you see how I used the fancy word "symposium" to open the thread though? I did. I used that word.

Ysamine
10-15-2014, 07:03 PM
I have only reported two folks for AFK scripting. Mostly I just get annoyed and log out of the game.

Once was Hoodafuck for AFK fletching with a bad script at the well in Icemule about 8 years ago. I think he's selling out now, don't know and don't care.

The other was the stupid kid that kept running out hunting and getting killed for three days straight and was never responsive.

Taernath
10-15-2014, 07:03 PM
I reported a few unresponsive guys who were e-waving and attacking my targets when I was obviously in the room.


OMG, you people are going thread crazy.

Reported.

SpiffyJr
10-15-2014, 07:03 PM
If I ever have someone's script waste more time than typing up a report (130+ WPM, booyah) I will report them.

Fallen
10-15-2014, 07:05 PM
I've reported for AFK scripting a few times. Off the top of my head, someone was running past the corpse of my character at lightning speed for the 10-15 minutes it took me to depart (not Evarin). Another time was someone's script fucked up in town and they kept running through the area I was resting in for a good 5+ minutes.

TheLastShamurai
10-15-2014, 07:05 PM
I don't report anyone.

Me neither. Nor have I ever done the warn interact thingy. I've badnamed a few people, but gave up on that too since the response was always "too old to rename blah blah" and with general apathy setting in over the years.

Ardwen
10-15-2014, 07:09 PM
Can't recall ever reporting anyone for scripting, I have reported quite a few other things thru the years though, mostly inappropriate language use and some very odd act verb usage shall we say in public places. I have also reported two other griefer type people both of whom recieved bans of various lengths

Candor
10-15-2014, 07:09 PM
I reported an AFK scripter once, and Anticor changes my title to "Tattler".

Life is officially unfair.

Latrinsorm
10-15-2014, 07:09 PM
OMG, you people are going thread crazy.World War AFK Scripting Ruined Ebola.
What's the verdict? Do snitches get stitches? Was I right to do this? What do you do?Your role isn't to determine who is or isn't AFK scripting. Your role is to bring the matter to the attention of the people who can, and the people who are employed to do something about it. If they weren't AFK scripting, they come to no harm, so what did you do wrong? If they were AFK scripting, then they were breaking The Law, so what did YOU do wrong?

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:10 PM
I reported an AFK scripter once, and Anticor changes my title to "Tattler".

Life is officially unfair.

Oh. I thought it was changed to that because you reported someone for harassing a friend of yours instead of that person reporting them.

JackWhisper
10-15-2014, 07:11 PM
There's an entire thread on why Candor got nicknamed Tattler. I was in the thread too and I remember when Anticor did it. It. Was. AWESOME. He deserved it, too. =)

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:11 PM
There's an entire thread on why Candor got nicknamed Tattler. I was in the thread too and I remember when Anticor did it. It. Was. AWESOME. He deserved it, too. =)

Links, man!

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:12 PM
Links, man!

There is a search button at the top right.

JackWhisper
10-15-2014, 07:13 PM
I am assuming Ysamine meant Hoodtralfeck and Dayko, right? =PP

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:13 PM
I am assuming Ysamine meant Hoodtralfeck and Dayko, right? =PP

No, she meant Neelin and Neelin.

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:15 PM
There is a search button at the top right.

Shut up, Latrin.

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:15 PM
Shut up, Latrin.

Shut up, Thundercunt.

JackWhisper
10-15-2014, 07:16 PM
I thought that was Allereli's nickname?

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:17 PM
I thought that was Allereli's nickname?

My name isn't Latrin either, I thought we were just calling each other other people's names.

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:17 PM
Shut up, Thundercunt.

You first, Lightninglabia.

Androidpk
10-15-2014, 07:21 PM
You're all a bunch of clumpy blood clots.

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:23 PM
You first, Lightninglabia.

Are you twelve?

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:24 PM
Are you twelve?

Why, you interested?

Silvean
10-15-2014, 07:28 PM
I now regret my use of the word "symposium" and would like to formally apologize for starting a thread.

7040

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:32 PM
Why, you interested?

Nope.

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:36 PM
Nope.

Then stop asking. You weirdo.

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:37 PM
Then stop asking. You weirdo.

Tell me about your mother.

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:43 PM
Tell me about your mother.

Tell me about your father.

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:46 PM
Tell me about your father.

He lives in Dallas and is full of Ebola. Now, I asked first. Send me nudies of her too. Thx.

Hightower
10-15-2014, 07:53 PM
I now regret my use of the word "symposium" and would like to formally apologize for starting a thread.

7040


I hereby rename this thread:

"Silvean's non-Symposium 2: Electric Boogaloo"

~Taverkin

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:55 PM
He lives in Dallas and is full of Ebola. Now, I asked first. Send me nudies of her too. Thx.

No nudes, only dudes.

Gelston
10-15-2014, 07:57 PM
No nudes, only dudes.

You should be talking to Latrin then.

Astray
10-15-2014, 07:58 PM
You should be talking to Latrin then.

I thought I was!

Hightower
10-15-2014, 07:58 PM
Since we have opened a symposium on AFK scripting, I have a question. Have you ever reported someone for AFK scripting? How often? How did you know they were AFK?

I have reported 3 people:

1. I pulled a person to their feet while hunting and it obviously broke their script. They were non-responsive afterward.
2. I logged in at random hours throughout a day and saw the same person using my rest area. They exhibited strange movements and login/logoff behavior.
3. I was e-waved several times in a hunting area by a person who ended up being non-responsive.

What's the verdict? Do snitches get stitches? Was I right to do this? What do you do?


I don't report suspected AFK scripting often, but I see nothing wrong with it. Usually when I do, the GM on duty sends back a thank you and an assurance that they'll look into it. But I wouldn't make it a regular thing, if only because you can't always be certain. I'd hate to routinely report AFK scripting and only have a 50/50 accuracy. That'd be annoying to the GM and to all of the players who got script checked for no reason! At least, that's why I don't bother with it more often. That and it's rare that they really get in my way.

~Taverkin

Soulance
10-15-2014, 08:10 PM
Reported someone once when I first started before I understood it all. They were sitting in a room with all of the critters and no one around could hunt anything. Never have since though.

Astray
10-15-2014, 08:12 PM
Reported someone once when I first started before I understood it all. They were sitting in a room with all of the critters and no one around could hunt anything. Never have since though.

The only time I've ever reported someone was this MA group that basically came in, stole my kills and loot then left in the blink of an eye. That? Disruptive scripting. I've seen plenty of people just walk on by and screen scroll me in the locksmith and gemshop but I just don't care. It's such a non-issue (because I'm not a hyper active spaz) that I went on with my business without turning into a raging crybaby.

Parkbandit
10-15-2014, 08:22 PM
I just killed them...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81252-Well-that-didn-t-take-long&highlight=scripting

Astray
10-15-2014, 08:30 PM
I just killed them...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81252-Well-that-didn-t-take-long&highlight=scripting

Yeah well, I'm not awesome.

Aiska
10-15-2014, 08:35 PM
I've reported Silvean for using ten-dollar words in everyday conversation.

Jeril
10-15-2014, 08:54 PM
I've reported Silvean for using ten-dollar words in everyday conversation.

I've reported Aiska for reporting Silvean.

Astray
10-15-2014, 08:56 PM
I've reported Aiska for reporting Silvean.

I've reported Jeril for so many reasons.

Wrathbringer
10-15-2014, 08:57 PM
I'm going to need to see a report of these reports.

edit: On topic, I try and make it a point to report at least 5 people per day for afk scripting whether they are or not. Pretty much anyone in a group, since no one actually interacts with other people anymore. Keeps everyone on their toes.

Jeril
10-15-2014, 09:17 PM
I've reported Jeril for so many reasons.

I'd like a detailed list please.

Astray
10-15-2014, 09:18 PM
I'd like a detailed list please.

No. You know what you did.

Wyrmx
10-15-2014, 09:18 PM
I'd like a detailed list please.

Shaddup you dirty scripter!

Jeril
10-15-2014, 09:36 PM
No. You know what you did.

I do so many things it is hard to keep track, so you should refresh my memory.

Luftstreitkräfte
10-15-2014, 09:59 PM
I don't report anyone.

This. That being said, I don't let it go unnoticed. If someone's scripts are disrupting me, or if I hear/see other people complaining, I'll usually drop them a PM and tell them to cut it out or encourage them to modify the script.

Do onto others.

diethx
10-16-2014, 02:25 AM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?38790-LOL

JackWhisper
10-16-2014, 02:39 AM
Cybering skills of a master, Go Ratolin Go!

diethx
10-16-2014, 02:58 AM
Damn, I thought that was also the thread where he threatened to burn my house down for snitching and making fun of him. In what thread was that??

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 03:16 AM
I'm from DR and reporting was completely and utterly frowned upon for any reason. We dealt with everything in game. The mindset was that we would rather have GMs coding.

Anyone that ever reported for any reason was instantly on every shit / black list that existed.

I'd love for people to search my kills. Perfect time to blow someone up.

Gelston
10-16-2014, 03:08 PM
I'm from DR and reporting was completely and utterly frowned upon for any reason. We dealt with everything in game. The mindset was that we would rather have GMs coding.

Anyone that ever reported for any reason was instantly on every shit / black list that existed.

I'd love for people to search my kills. Perfect time to blow someone up.

How would you know who was or was not reporting?

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 03:14 PM
How would you know who was or was not reporting?

People stupidly admit to it. Or when conflicting with someone they report you its pretty obvious.

e.g.
Dwarf: "Go fuck your mom elf."
Elf: "What?" * kills dwarf.
Dwarf: REPORTTTTT.


GM: "I noticed that you killed someone for verbal violating your mom, that's not OK."

JackWhisper
10-16-2014, 03:28 PM
Gelston, I'm going to nonverbal violate your mom.

Gelston
10-16-2014, 03:28 PM
Meh. Never reported for conflicts. I've reported for AFK scripting when they have annoying scripts that move super fast in small hunting areas and it annoys me... And AFK fletching in the middle of a town's main gathering point.


Gelston, I'm going to nonverbal violate your mom.

You wouldn't know how.

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 03:32 PM
Gelston, I'm going to nonverbal violate your mom.

i loled.

Aiska
10-16-2014, 08:29 PM
I'm from DR and reporting was completely and utterly frowned upon for any reason. We dealt with everything in game. The mindset was that we would rather have GMs coding.

Aren't you Kurav/Daenar-DR? Didn't you abuse RS to spam kill like a half-dozen people, cry to the GMs when they retaliated, and then cry harder when the GMs had no sympathy, locked you PVP Open for 30 days, and half of Smelly Cat murdered the everliving shit out of you?

Okay.

You haven't changed a whole heck of a lot over the years, which is disappointing since I left DR in like '09 or something. I don't think GS's comparatively feather-soft environs is going to suit your playstyle.

Astray
10-16-2014, 08:37 PM
Handling this IC in an IC environment?! PSH! They gotta consent first!

Candor
10-16-2014, 08:43 PM
I'm from DR and reporting was completely and utterly frowned upon for any reason. We dealt with everything in game. The mindset was that we would rather have GMs coding.

Anyone that ever reported for any reason was instantly on every shit / black list that existed.

I'd love for people to search my kills. Perfect time to blow someone up.

Then go back to DR.

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 08:46 PM
Aren't you Kurav/Daenar-DR? Didn't you abuse RS to spam kill like a half-dozen people, cry to the GMs when they retaliated, and then cry harder when the GMs had no sympathy, locked you PVP Open for 30 days, and half of Smelly Cat murdered the everliving shit out of you?

Okay.

You haven't changed a whole heck of a lot over the years, which is disappointing since I left DR in like '09 or something. I don't think GS's comparatively feather-soft environs is going to suit your playstyle.

Yup. But get your facts straight. I killed a PVP Open character 3 times using RS a total of 9 times. RS is a summon spell for those unaware. The person attacked me first so I was just making a point. Then I got reported and forced Open. And, no I wasn't murdered by half of Smelly Cat. Not even once.

The whole point of "OPEN" was that you aren't allowed to report for PVP. I was locked "OPEN" but otherwise not in any trouble. I could have killed the guy 50 more times if I chose. He could have gone guarded at any point.

And I've yet to kill a single person in GS so I'm not entirely sure how there is any relevance here.

Astray
10-16-2014, 08:47 PM
And I've yet to kill a single person in GS so I'm not entirely sure how there is any relevance here.

You should start by killing Candor. Everyone else has, join the club!

Aiska
10-16-2014, 08:52 PM
words

Haha. Whatever you say.

It's just funny to hear you crow about not reporting, is all.

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 08:57 PM
Haha. Whatever you say.

It's just funny to hear you crow about not reporting, is all.

... Because the story you just told had 0 reporting in it from me? Are you stupid or just trolling?

Aiska
10-16-2014, 09:02 PM
... Because the story you just told had 0 reporting in it from me? Are you stupid or just trolling?

You reported the people who chain-killed you after you were locked open.

You also reported Szrael after she killed you for (lol) AFK poaching her mobs. Er, wait - she didn't kill you. You slammed and reported her for trying. That was pretty lol.

This is great. How are you? How you liking GS?

Haldrik
10-16-2014, 09:04 PM
You reported the people who chain-killed you after you were locked open.

You also reported Szrael after she killed you for (lol) AFK poaching her mobs. Er, wait - she didn't kill you. You slammed and reported her for trying. That was pretty lol.

This is great. How are you? How you liking GS?

I never reported anyone for chain killing me. I was never chain killed. Smelly Cat forums is 10000x trollier and more toxic then this place is. Don't believe everything you read there.

Tgo01
10-16-2014, 09:06 PM
Smelly Cat forums is 10000x trollier and more toxic then this place is.

You bite your tongue!

Aiska
10-16-2014, 09:09 PM
I never reported anyone for chain killing me. I was never chain killed. Smelly Cat forums is 10000x trollier and more toxic then this place is. Don't believe everything you read there.

Okie dokie.

Latrinsorm
10-17-2014, 04:15 PM
Smelly Cat forums is 10000x trollier and more toxic then this place is.Your mother's cooking is known by some to leave something to be desired, although they admittedly have a small sample size and tastes vary.

Allizar
10-17-2014, 05:14 PM
I wouldn't report anyone unless they had a real impact on my character and I had no other way to react.

I think reporting because someone didn't stop at your body is 100% douchebag, so is "screen scroll" reporting. Would you rather there be nobody there?

Now if I'm on a little alt and someone ewaves me 11,000 times and I can't move, I would eventually report that.

Fallen
10-17-2014, 06:06 PM
I think reporting because someone didn't stop at your body is 100% douchebag, so is "screen scroll" reporting. Would you rather there be nobody there?



If someone is walking past your corpses every few seconds over the course of 10 minutes or so... Chances are nobody is there.

Allizar
10-17-2014, 06:11 PM
If someone is walking past your corpses every few seconds over the course of 10 minutes or so... Chances are nobody is there.

No reason to go yelling to mommy. I'm sure there are in game ways to deal with it.

Fallen
10-17-2014, 06:13 PM
If someone is AFK scripting, it isn't your character's place to enforce policy. You simply report and move on. If the person isn't AFK scripting they'll be fine.

Allizar
10-17-2014, 06:24 PM
I don't. I realize it's a game, I stay in character, I roleplay, I enjoy playing, but I script mundane things and I also realize RL stuff happens. Sons choking on a bottlecap? Hold on, let me stop my script...

I don't play to report/enforce anything below extreme personal harassment. Someone running by my body does not impact me at all. If the scripter was not there, that does not mean someone else would be. At least there is a chance he might noitice.

Latrinsorm
10-17-2014, 06:28 PM
It's odd how often the "my child was in immediate danger" excuse comes up for AFK scripting.

Fallen
10-17-2014, 06:28 PM
Yes, I'm sure everyone AFK scripting is doing do only to protect the lives of their choking children.

Warriorbird
10-17-2014, 06:33 PM
I never reported anyone for chain killing me. I was never chain killed. Smelly Cat forums is 10000x trollier and more toxic then this place is. Don't believe everything you read there.

Smelly Cat is mostly inactive last time I checked at least.

While Smelly Cat was certainly far more hostile to many newbs than we have ever been they were unquestionably an asset to their game. I certainly enjoyed my time there and I know several of their past/former members have felt welcome here.

Allizar
10-17-2014, 06:36 PM
Extreme situation for sure, however, you would probably be suprpised how often kids can get into trouble! I play when I'm watching them (same room), but my attention is definately on my kids and the game gets the casual glances I spare it. When the kids are asleep I go to events, roleplay, group hunt etc. If I eventually get a warning for that I'll just cancel and find something else to do casually while I'm at home. I'm attached to gaming in general, it doesn't have to be GS.

Gelston
10-17-2014, 06:37 PM
Extreme situation for sure, however, you would probably be suprpised how often kids can get into trouble! I play when I'm watching them (same room), but my attention is definately on my kids and the game gets the casual glances I spare it. When the kids are asleep I go to events, roleplay, group hunt etc. If I eventually get a warning for that I'll just cancel and find something else to do casually while I'm at home. I'm attached to gaming in general, it doesn't have to be GS.

Just stick them in a dog crate. Problem solved.

Warriorbird
10-17-2014, 06:38 PM
Extreme situation for sure, however, you would probably be suprpised how often kids can get into trouble! I play when I'm watching them (same room), but my attention is definately on my kids and the game gets the casual glances I spare it. When the kids are asleep I go to events, roleplay, group hunt etc. If I eventually get a warning for that I'll just cancel and find something else to do casually while I'm at home. I'm attached to gaming in general, it doesn't have to be GS.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/273/1274831888_4.jpg

Allizar
10-17-2014, 06:40 PM
Yes, because the neglecting chick form the guild coorelated to my casual play style and parenting skills perfectly!

Wrathbringer
10-17-2014, 06:44 PM
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/273/1274831888_4.jpg

Is that Belgium's new health czar there?

Gelston
10-17-2014, 06:45 PM
Is that Belgium's new health czar there?

No, that woman in that picture is in better shape.

Wrathbringer
10-17-2014, 06:47 PM
No, that woman in that picture is in better shape.

Maybe it's an old pic.

Warriorbird
10-17-2014, 06:47 PM
Yes, because the neglecting chick form the guild coorelated to my casual play style and parenting skills perfectly!

I think, realistically, text based games work a lot better for most parental types than MMOs.

Fallen
10-17-2014, 06:49 PM
Nevermind. Can't delete posts using tapatalk, apparently.

Gelston
10-17-2014, 06:49 PM
Was post #80 in this thread deleted, or does tapatalk sometime just skip posts?

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?92772-Reporting-AFK-Scripting&p=1710130#post1710130

I see it there.

Fallen
10-17-2014, 06:51 PM
It refused to show, but it did after a time. I've had this happen a few times when using the app now. Seems to resolve itself eventually.

Haldrik
10-17-2014, 06:53 PM
Nevermind. Can't delete posts using tapatalk, apparently.

I don't think you can delete posts at all.

Gelston
10-17-2014, 06:53 PM
I don't think you can delete posts at all.

You sure can.

Haldrik
10-17-2014, 06:54 PM
You sure can.

Huh. Guess you are right. I've only tried to delete threads I guess. You can't do that tho right?

Gelston
10-17-2014, 06:55 PM
Huh. Guess you are right. I've only tried to delete threads I guess. You can't do that tho right?

Nope. Can't delete the the post that creates a thread.

Allizar
10-17-2014, 06:57 PM
Why am I green? I explained how often kids get in trouble because I assumed all of you were virgins, now make me red again.

Haldrik
10-17-2014, 06:57 PM
Nope. Can't delete the the post that creates a thread.

Super irritating when I fuck up in the merchant forum. But I guess its better then people randomly deleting threads.

Warriorbird
10-17-2014, 07:03 PM
Why am I green? I explained how often kids get in trouble because I assumed all of you were virgins, now make me red again.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v16PPaL0CHI/Ul6QodaMxII/AAAAAAAADy4/cPFMbk2KSx0/s1600/take-a-look-at-me-now.png

Buckwheet
10-17-2014, 07:05 PM
Why am I green? I explained how often kids get in trouble because I assumed all of you were virgins, now make me red again.

Hopefully you wanted that.

Haldrik
10-17-2014, 07:07 PM
Hopefully you wanted that.

i loled

Allizar
10-17-2014, 07:09 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v16PPaL0CHI/Ul6QodaMxII/AAAAAAAADy4/cPFMbk2KSx0/s1600/take-a-look-at-me-now.png

That was much better!

Allizar
10-18-2014, 10:20 AM
"
Sorry douchebag... reverse psychology only works on idiots. Back to green!
"

If I was using reverse psychology I would have secretely wanted to go green even though I asked for red. You made me green, so uhh congrats anonymous self proclaimed idiot guy!

liquiddrool
10-30-2014, 01:46 AM
I blackmail them into giving me a cut of their gains.

Kaldonis
10-30-2014, 05:34 AM
Since we have opened a symposium on AFK scripting, I have a question. Have you ever reported someone for AFK scripting? How often? How did you know they were AFK?

What's the verdict? Do snitches get stitches? Was I right to do this? What do you do?

Think I never started reporting until this year. Now I'm up to about three or so. Usually I don't "know" if they are AFK, and usually my report only suggests they seem to be acting like a robot and if it could be checked. For years I felt bad or thought it wasn't proper form, but by now I'm fairly jaded and the only real way to stop AFK scripting is to report them.

With a small town like River's Rest, any AFK scripting is a real nuisance. There are only so many hunting grounds and supernodes, so it tends to be obvious. For the most part I'll pretty much report people for being anti-social these days if I've seen them doing what appears to be script hunting and always non-responsive in public areas (since I'm not one to make excessive small talk in dangerous hunting areas). I haven't quite reached the point of reporting people for using the looting script that runs in and out of "town" several times, though that sets a red flag for any instance I observe them hunting. Maybe running through TSC a couple times isn't obvious, but in RR Commons it's glaring. (Also, I don't mean running in and out of town a few times once in awhile -- even I might do that scripting or not. I mean habitually doing it. Like I see your looting script trigger every 10 to 20 minutes.) But I mean, whatever, if you're going to script selling your loot, use one that isn't so stupid...there's no point in walking up and down the path to Commons like 4 times.

Since I'm on the other side of the globe, it's especially easy to observe people that run AFK scripts at hours they think maybe no one is around or would notice. Because those are some of the hours I usually play.

Tenlaar
10-30-2014, 06:03 AM
You should report that Azesomething guy that I decayed in front of in Commons earlier because he was unresponsive after I died while script hunting and selling loot every 10 to 20 minutes.

Haldrik
10-30-2014, 06:24 AM
With a small town like River's Rest, any AFK scripting is a real nuisance. There are only so many hunting grounds and supernodes, so it tends to be obvious. For the most part I'll pretty much report people for being anti-social these days if I've seen them doing what appears to be script hunting and always non-responsive in public areas (since I'm not one to make excessive small talk in dangerous hunting areas). I haven't quite reached the point of reporting people for using the looting script that runs in and out of "town" several times, though that sets a red flag for any instance I observe them hunting. Maybe running through TSC a couple times isn't obvious, but in RR Commons it's glaring. (Also, I don't mean running in and out of town a few times once in awhile -- even I might do that scripting or not. I mean habitually doing it. Like I see your looting script trigger every 10 to 20 minutes.) But I mean, whatever, if you're going to script selling your loot, use one that isn't so stupid...there's no point in walking up and down the path to Commons like 4 times.

Since I'm on the other side of the globe, it's especially easy to observe people that run AFK scripts at hours they think maybe no one is around or would notice. Because those are some of the hours I usually play.

Makes sense. Most people can't write scripts so they have to rely on script writers to do it for them. Most script writers aren't going to pull nodes/high pop areas out of their scripts so this is what we end up with.

Still, players are players. I wouldn't want to run anyone out of the game.

Kaldonis
10-30-2014, 06:45 AM
You should report that Azesomething guy that I decayed in front of in Commons earlier because he was unresponsive after I died while script hunting and selling loot every 10 to 20 minutes.

Haha, or you could do it too. See folks, here we have an example from this week of someone I didn't report. So it's not like I'm out to spam REPORT on anyone who walks past me once. Usually I need to personally witness systematic behavior on repeated occasions. Generally speaking, scripting is fine with me. And I'm sure it's against policy, but if you really had to run to take a pee whilst hunting and couldn't stop your script, anyway I won't report the first time I see someone acting suspiciously.

Truth to be told, I'm more likely to actually file the report when I'm drunk and seen the behavior too many times, 'cause I get a few drinks and I'm like, screw you zombies.


Makes sense. Most people can't write scripts so they have to rely on script writers to do it for them. Most script writers aren't going to pull nodes/high pop areas out of their scripts so this is what we end up with.

Still, players are players. I wouldn't want to run anyone out of the game.

Well, I'm not out to run anyone out of the game. And probably I mis-spoke, since I said "always" unresponsive in public. You see a given character, and sometimes they are very obviously at the keyboard or not. Like they are there, and they are chatting, hanging out, and so on. Then it's 5am game time and they are zombie hunting without a word for quite a long time. Feel bad to report them but if they are indeed AFK scripting (which I leave the GMs to decide), they are the ones choosing to violate policy.

And it's River's Rest. People run screaming from that place without me lifting a finger. So if I lifted a finger to run them out of the town slightly faster, so be it.

Old players have definitely returned lately and expressed being appalled at the amount of AFK things going on in the town. So it's just as fair to claim not reporting this behavior will run other people out of the game.

Tenlaar
10-30-2014, 07:00 AM
I don't know if he's a frequent zombie or not, a whole lot of the time I'm in game is spent AFK at a table so I really don't even know who the regulars in RR are yet. I actually need to find out so I can watch for people who might need rescues, my guys are only in their 40's but one is an empath.

I probably look like an AFK scripter to those returned players because I don't socialize much but I'm just activating my hunting script to knock out a quick two to four minute hunt two or three times an hour.

Kaldonis
10-30-2014, 08:20 AM
AFK at a table is okay. I tend to AFK at the Beacon Hall Common Room since it's a supernode with low traffic (it's open to the public, too).

Being majorly AFK in the social areas is anti-social; I'll pop off for a cigarette or whatever but that's when no one is there or doing anything. Being AFK somewhere secluded is totally cool, though.

Mostly the people that I'm likely to REPORT are just doing their scripting in a bad or tacky way. Call it subjective but it's the GMs that make any decisions. AFK scripting for hours resting in the Sanctuary, or having your looting script run in and out of town is just asking to be red flagged by anyone paying attention.

Lord Orbstar
10-30-2014, 11:13 AM
incant 916 then go afk. otherwise HIDE

Haldrik
10-31-2014, 08:04 PM
Some people enjoy the game for the mechanics and don't care about socializing. Why should they have to cater to you or risk being branded "AFK SCRIPTER!"

Fallen
10-31-2014, 08:08 PM
Some people enjoy the game for the mechanics and don't care about socializing. Why should they have to cater to you or risk being branded "AFK SCRIPTER!"

Are you saying you like to go AFK in public, or...?

Haldrik
10-31-2014, 08:13 PM
Are you saying you like to go AFK in public, or...?

I have no idea what you are asking.

Fallen
10-31-2014, 08:14 PM
The discussion was revolving around people going AFK in public. Were you just making a general declarative statement?

Candor
10-31-2014, 08:17 PM
Some people enjoy the game for the mechanics and don't care about socializing. Why should they have to cater to you or risk being branded "AFK SCRIPTER!"

As long as you don't break game policy, personally I don't care whether you are AFK or not. If you break game policy and cause me some significant problems, I might report you (although contrary to my title here, that is a fairly rare event). Admittedly if you are AFK while your character is being a problem to me, that does increase the chance of my reporting you.

If you don't like game policy, the official forums or emailing feedback are your best options to discuss.

Haldrik
10-31-2014, 08:24 PM
The discussion was revolving around people going AFK in public. Were you just making a general declarative statement?

Kaldonis was also discussing behavior he viewed as "afk scripting" and being "anti social." Basically if you script hunt and then ignore him he will assume you are AFK scripting. That's what I was referring to.

Latrinsorm
10-31-2014, 08:28 PM
Some people enjoy the game for the mechanics and don't care about socializing. Why should they have to cater to you or risk being branded "AFK SCRIPTER!"If you don't care about socializing, what do you care what people call you? "being branded" is just an expression, they don't actually press a hot iron onto your flesh.

Androidpk
10-31-2014, 08:37 PM
>they don't actually press a hot iron onto your flesh.

They do in some parts of the world.

Latrinsorm
10-31-2014, 08:51 PM
>they don't actually press a hot iron onto your flesh.

They do in some parts of the world.No matter where people live, not even Warden would brand them for AFK scripting.

Androidpk
10-31-2014, 08:52 PM
No matter where people live, not even Warden would brand them for AFK scripting.

Warden or Wyrom?

Methais
10-31-2014, 09:36 PM
Warden would just nerf them.

subzero
10-31-2014, 11:22 PM
Some people enjoy the game for the mechanics and don't care about socializing. Why should they have to cater to you or risk being branded "AFK SCRIPTER!"

Because everyone is a special snowflake and you're playing in their sandbox.

Latrinsorm
11-01-2014, 05:23 PM
Because everyone is a special snowflake and you're playing in their sandbox.As an objective observer, I would say the "special snowflake" people are the ones who can't stand the thought of someone calling them an AFK scripter.
Warden would just nerf them.Again, just a figure of speech. Warden would not fire nerf rounds at people. He would use hollow points.

Androidpk
11-01-2014, 05:30 PM
As an objective observer, I would say the "special snowflake" people are the ones who can't stand the thought of someone calling them an AFK scripter.Again, just a figure of speech. Warden would not fire nerf rounds at people. He would use hollow points.

In a parallel universe born again Christian pacifist Warden grieves over your false portrayal of him.

Methais
11-01-2014, 07:50 PM
As an objective observer, I would say the "special snowflake" people are the ones who can't stand the thought of someone calling them an AFK scripter.Again, just a figure of speech. Warden would not fire nerf rounds at people. He would use hollow points.

You're stiouxpid.

Mobius1
11-04-2014, 02:29 PM
I've personally gotten an afk scripting warning, when I was neither afk, nor scripting. In fact, I immediately reported after being sent to the lounge, and the GM refused to retract the warning.

So yeah, I'm reluctant to report people. In fact, I don't think I ever have.

I don't script hunt on Midgar, but with some of my alts I do. But it's NEVER afk. But I have been accused by players of afk scripting several times, even though I never have. Just because I don't respond to you, or am anti-social (Uhhh, female alt? Yeah, socializing on one is not my thing.), doesn't mean I am afk. For one, responding is often difficult, because it would require me to stop the script at a bad time, and I also don't really want to have to. I'll usually try to send a chat, but I've run into people without lnet, or people that miss it.

I've also had people try to use lnet to check if I am there, which I missed a few times, because I don't really pay much attention to it most of the time.

So yeah, just because someone is scripting, does not mean they are afk scripting.

If I find someone that IS afk scripting, I usually just cause them trouble. Maybe drop a feras weapon for the critter to pick up, and pop em with a subdue, then open a bag of popcorn. Why report when there is such great entertainment to be had?

Fallen
11-04-2014, 03:56 PM
If I find someone that IS afk scripting, I usually just cause them trouble. Maybe drop a feras weapon for the critter to pick up, and pop em with a subdue, then open a bag of popcorn. Why report when there is such great entertainment to be had?

Just know this type of stuff, while fun (i've done it), is against policy and will get you in trouble should a GM see you do it.

Daiyon
11-30-2014, 02:46 AM
This thread had potential until it was ruined with all the DR talk. Doesn't DR have their own forum?

Ceyrin
12-03-2014, 01:33 PM
Only reported a couple of gratuitous afk scripters.

I've also been accused of afk scripting and "punished" by an over zealous asshat.

The lesson here is some people have really a really big ego and can't understand being ignored.