snootiness

[Elbereth]

How about all those snooty level 80+ that never had to experience death's sting? Geez..

[Vi0lent Femme]

what are you talking about?

[Astray]

what are you talking about?

Apparently nothing.

[Gelston]

How about all those snooty level 9 and less that never have to experience death's sting? Geez..

[Astray]

Why is this in Character Complaints...?

[Gelston]

Why is this in Character Complaints...?

Because he/she/it is complaining about snooty characters.

[Astray]

Names damn it! We need names!

[Gelston]

Names damn it! We need names!

Sean William mothafuckin Scott.

[Sorcasaurus]

Damn rich people can just buy their way out of it.

Occupy Wehnimer's!

[Astray]

#Wehnimer'sGate

[Gelston]

Damn rich people can just buy their way out of it.

Occupy Wehnimer's!

To be fair, who can't buy their way out of it? A poor capped character maybe, but I always felt it scaled nicely with level.

[Astray]

Well, you can buy Silvers and, correct me if I'm wrong, you can buy a death sting potion in the cash shop. Even if you're poor in game you can still find a way.

[Sorcasaurus]

Well, you can buy Silvers and, correct me if I'm wrong, you can buy a death sting potion in the cash shop. Even if you're poor in game you can still find a way.

That's exactly what you 1%ers would say! Down with the predatory healing market!

#OccupyTSC #WealthInequality #Imtotallysrsguys

[Kaldonis]

Generally, the lower your level, the easier getting a rescue is.

The places that are the worst to get rescues are places in isolated towns at the top of their level ranges, because there aren't many qualified people to perform the rescue. Like the Marsh Keep and Citadel in River's Rest. But being say, lower 70s hunting in, I dunno, the Krag Slopes, getting a rescue is pretty easy. What's this 80+ cut off? Are rescues in the Bowels and Rift really that easy? I never thought so!

[Gelston]

Generally, the lower your level, the easier getting a rescue is.

The places that are the worst to get rescues are places in isolated towns at the top of their level ranges, because there aren't many qualified people to perform the rescue. Like the Marsh Keep and Citadel in River's Rest. But being say, lower 70s hunting in, I dunno, the Krag Slopes, getting a rescue is pretty easy. What's this 80+ cut off? Are rescues in the Bowels and Rift really that easy? I never thought so!

They were always fairly easy for me... What makes the RR ones harder is that you have to have water walking to drag to town from those areas. Bowels were super easy. Just run in, grab corpse, leave. Minotaur maze rescues used to suck though, find bodies and all.

[Fallen]

How about all those snooty level 80+ that never had to experience death's sting? Geez..

This..makes no sense. I likely spent more on Death Sting potions when capped than 99% of the game's population. It's more of an issue in hunting areas with corpse looting and a lack of rescues, which occurs at later levels more than earlier ones.

But at the same time, Yeah! Fuck those snooty, snotty fucks. Fuck them right in the ear.

[Sorcasaurus]

But at the same time, Yeah! Fuck those snooty, snotty fucks. Fuck them right in the ear.

I have a sign I made with glue sticks and glitter waiting for you. We keep dying while their monopoly grows bigger and richer!:soap:

#OccupyTSC #Occupyfabulous

[Kaldonis]

They were always fairly easy for me... What makes the RR ones harder is that you have to have water walking to drag to town from those areas. Bowels were super easy. Just run in, grab corpse, leave. Minotaur maze rescues used to suck though, find bodies and all.

Marsh Keep needs 112 to drag across Maelstrom Bay. Normally people would call this a "fogging area" though I've since solved the Miasmal Mazes so dragging around the trunk isn't quite as insane as it once was.

The Citadel, however, has many exits, and is a strictly easy dragging location. If you don't get sheer feared to fuck because you're not a Citadel hunter...

Always appreciate the replies about RR though!

Speaking of rescues that suck, how about the Jungle? It can be fogged to so, for some not too bad. Miasmal Mazes are pretty awful. And the worst of Miasmal is bog trolls that bury your corpse from location. Like, seriously. Nasty.

[Elbereth]

This..makes no sense. I likely spent more on Death Sting potions when capped than 99% of the game's population. It's more of an issue in hunting areas with corpse looting and a lack of rescues, which occurs at later levels more than earlier ones.

But at the same time, Yeah! Fuck those snooty, snotty fucks. Fuck them right in the ear.

I was thinking there were 80+ folks who did all their leveling before death's sting was implemented. It would be easier then!

- still striving toward snootiness

[Aiska]

so what if there were

what is the point of this thread

[Fallen]

so what if there were

what is the point of this thread

I see what he is saying now. He is saying it is harder to level up if you're constantly getting reduced EXP absorption due to Death's Sting, something older characters didn't have to deal with when they were leveling up. If they get DS now, they're already high level so it doesn't slow them down as much in progressing through the game.

Not saying I agree with the sentiment, but I at least understand what he's saying.

[Roblar]

Except, he's incorrect anyway.

GSIII had flat (I think 50K exp needed towards next level) penalties for depart (decay too?). Also Death Sting now has four ways around it (if you include chrisms for CON loss).

[Androidpk]

#OccupyTSC

[Gelston]

I was thinking there were 80+ folks who did all their leveling before death's sting was implemented. It would be easier then!

- still striving toward snootiness

It was a lot worse prior to the current system. Also, since it has changed, a LOT of people have capped.

[Haldrik]

I was thinking there were 80+ folks who did all their leveling before death's sting was implemented. It would be easier then!

- still striving toward snootiness

This is not really fair. Death sting was introduced in 2005. You need to go back and see what death was like PRE 2005. At one point decay/depart would make you drop all your items. That is pretty bad too.

Also, how high were levels in 2005 anyway?

[Haldrik]

Were you complaining about Death's Sting and got rebuked by a high level guy or something? You will likely not get any sympathy here.

[Androidpk]

Death sting potions are sold by a shell company owned by Ardwen. It's all a conspiracy, man!

#bloodmoney

[Viekn]

Didn't you risk having to reroll (go demonic) back in the day if you decayed with no deeds? Much worse then.

Also, isn't 3 application salve like $1? C'mon brah!

[Silvean]

At different times, Gemstone 3 death mechanics included the potential for loss of all worn and held items, the loss of significant xp, and the loss of your character if you decayed without deeds.

[Aiska]

Thread topic change.

Oldbies, complain about us youngsters who have it so good with our Lumnis and our thirty-day grace period.

[Androidpk]

Back in the day we had to roll for our stats. Creating a character could take hundreds of hours alone!

[Candor]

I like snooty youngins. I rob them blind :)

[RichardCranium]

Thread topic change.

Oldbies, complain about us youngsters who have it so good with our Lumnis and our thirty-day grace period.

Fuck y'all.

[Taernath]

Back in the day we had to roll for our stats. Creating a character could take hundreds of hours alone!

And autorollers were cheating... according to people who did it manually.

I'd let it run overnight looking for that magical.. what was it, 720?

[Fallen]

I don't remember, but I used the fuck out of those things. Pretty sure I followed Silvean's guide to roll my first sorcerers.

[petiteSylvan]

This thread is SO not what I was expecting (and hoping for) ... :(

[Elgrim]

Back in the day we had to roll for our stats. Creating a character could take hundreds of hours alone!

The mangler was so damn awesome. I'm still bent out of shape that I was forced to accept the new stat method in GS4 and lost my old stats. I don't remember what my roll was, but it was ridiculous. I had spent about 3 weeks in the mangler till the autoroller hit the target number. I want to say the end roll I got was like a 693 or something.

[Androidpk]

And autorollers were cheating... according to people who did it manually.

I'd let it run overnight looking for that magical.. what was it, 720?

I want to say 700. Autorollers were the shit too.

[Androidpk]

The mangler was so damn awesome. I'm still bent out of shape that I was forced to accept the new stat method in GS4 and lost my old stats. I don't remember what my roll was, but it was ridiculous. I had spent about 3 weeks in the mangler till the autoroller hit the target number. I want to say the end roll I got was like a 693 or something.

Old characters had their stat numbers adjusted? I didn't know that.

[Malisai]

I don't remember, but I used the fuck out of those things. Pretty sure I followed Silvean's guide to roll my first sorcerers.

I think all of us sorcerers used Silvean's guide.

[Taernath]

I want to say 700. Autorollers were the shit too.

I remember the totals went from upper 500's to maybe slightly above 700, with the higher numbers being exponentially more difficult to get. It was trying to crack 700 that took so much time. I think 650 was considered solid, and my ranger had roughly 670. Nowdays everyone starts with 640, but I think it's a better system because even if you lose out on total numbers it's a LOT easier to place for growth. No more 5 90's and 5 30's.

And yeah, when they pushed through those changes you had to reallocate. People who had the best rolls were raging.

[Androidpk]

700.

http://www.cmnservicesgroup.com/playerscorner/ubb/Forum31/HTML/000023.html

[Candor]

I remember the totals went from upper 500's to maybe slightly above 700, with the higher numbers being exponentially more difficult to get. It was trying to crack 700 that took so much time. I think 650 was considered solid, and my ranger had roughly 670. Nowdays everyone starts with 640, but I think it's a better system because even if you lose out on total numbers it's a LOT easier to place for growth. No more 5 90's and 5 30's.

And yeah, when they pushed through those changes you had to reallocate. People who had the best rolls were raging.

700. And yeah, I wasn't too happy when I had to give it up.

[Silvean]

I think all of us sorcerers used Silvean's guide.

As much as I would like to take credit, you two are probably referring to Sylvendale's "Statistical Sorcerer Guide" available at: http://www.tamcon.com/GS3/stat_src.html

That said, please be sure to buy Silvean's latest volume of Faendryl erotica at a bookseller near you!

[JackWhisper]

I cant take you seriously without the bondage cock necklace, Silvean. Sorry.

[Androidpk]

I cant take you seriously without the bondage cock necklace, Silvean. Sorry.

Beat me to it.

[Silvean]

7012

The bondage cock necklace can also be enjoyed on my official forum posts.

[JackWhisper]

ROFL when I see it all blown up like that, it looks like a penis with a bowtie just under the mushroom cusp. That's just awesome. HAHAHA.

[Fallen]

As much as I would like to take credit, you two are probably referring to Sylvendale's "Statistical Sorcerer Guide" available at: http://www.tamcon.com/GS3/stat_src.html

That said, please be sure to buy Silvean's latest volume of Faendryl erotica at a bookseller near you!

Hah! Good man. That's it. What a guide that was, too.

[Elgrim]

Old characters had their stat numbers adjusted? I didn't know that.

Yep, when the conversion hit all of my old characters had to go through stat point reassignment. I think that was also when you lost all the levels and had your first training using the new system. Its been a while so I'm kinda foggy there.

[Methais]

How about all those snooty level 80+ that never had to experience death's sting? Geez..

Meds, how do they work?

[Haldrik]

Thread topic change.

Oldbies, complain about us youngsters who have it so good with our Lumnis and our thirty-day grace period.

Amen to this. Can you imagine trying to place stats for growth at level 1? Or try to hunt as a pure from level 1.

Oh wait, I do remember that. I got my wizard to 18 and that was a shitload of effort. God it took sooo many wands. Actually I... I have fond memories of that time. Especially when I got dupe wand, I almost peed myself with joy.

[Elgrim]

I could go on and on with the "way back when" stories, but I can second the pain of hunting as a pure at level 1. Before you had the benefit of retraining, ever. You didn't take spells for granted from the wizards who went through that pain. I recall buying disks with fresh wands and paying 1000 silver for an Ebladed falchion from figures back when that was the end all be all of hunting areas.

[JackWhisper]

How did you hunt as a pure when you couldn't reassign stats OR skills?

Easy.

You got buffed with strength from a wizard, and you hunted Giant Rats.

Until Level. Fucking. Nine.

[Methais]

Back in my day I didn't know training in edged weapons as a wizard was useful and couldn't do shit about it once I was clued in.

You try hunting up to level 40+ in GS3 with only wands and prep times and being able to cast your new spell only 3 times before running out of mana and having no minimum spell durations and no Lumnis or bounties while having to stack 4 hours of wizard shield and 4938520 other spells while standing around TSSW waiting for someone to cast mass spells and having to drag corpses halfway across the continent with a terrible STR stat while being encumbered with tons of wands and no ENCUMBRANCE verb and losing 10k exp on decay with no way to offset it with death's sting potions or chrism raises before you talk about tough times!!!!!!!11

And by golly I was grateful!

[JackWhisper]

Methais walked uphill 3 miles without shoes in the snow to his hunting ground.

Both ways.

[Haldrik]

Back in my day I didn't know training in edged weapons as a wizard was useful and couldn't do shit about it once I was clued in.

You try hunting up to level 40+ in GS3 with only wands and prep times and being able to cast your new spell only 3 times before running out of mana and having no minimum spell durations and no Lumnis or bounties while having to stack 4 hours of wizard shield and 4938520 other spells before you talk about tough times!!!!!!!11

And by golly I was grateful!

Hahahaha. At least DC was awesome back then. For sorcs.

How was leech? Don't remember.

Oh. And clouds were the most efficient way to hunt. I miss fire cloud. Why the fuck they would remove perfectly good spells to arcane is beyond my comprehension.

[Methais]

Hahahaha. At least DC was awesome back then. For sorcs.

How was leech? Don't remember.

Oh. And clouds were the most efficient way to hunt. I miss fire cloud. Why the fuck they would remove perfectly good spells to arcane is beyond my comprehension.

Mana Leech didn't even exist yet.

Mana leech did rule for a while though when it had no cool down and you could leech forever if you had the CS for it, which was mostly only useful against things too low to hunt for exp since you needed a high endroll to be worth it, since it still cost 16 mana no matter what, with none of this only costing 1 mana on a successful warding shit.

[Laviticas]

Critters were a lot more powerfull as well. I think I liked the loot system better then too. When you found a weapon, armor etc. it really meant something .

[JackWhisper]

I remember when I found my first true boxfound, like 2 decades ago.

Off a dark shamble in icemule, on my ranger.

A dented green imflass shield. +22.

That's all. Dented. Boss alter.

[Laviticas]

Mine was a curlean blue rolaren shield. 5x. I thought I had won GS, lol

[Gelston]

Why is this at 7 pages you snooty fucktards?

[JackWhisper]

Silence, Daggerfall scum!

[Androidpk]

I can't recall ever finding anything nice in a box back then.

[Laviticas]

Where were you doing the majority of your hunting?

[Androidpk]

Oh boy.. uhh..mostly in the graveyard I think. Not entirely sure.

The best item I ever received was a bone handled ice ax that Sagan bought for me for a whopping 250k silvers. The most expensive thing I ever bought was razor sharp mithril claid for 600k.

[Haldrik]

Fish spines ftw!

Also, gathering armor and claidhmores from hobgoblins to sell.

Some GM accidentally released an invasion of spiders in the abandoned Inn and gave everyone that died goat pins that were altered as furry brown spiders. I loved that fucking spider.

[Haldrik]

This went from the worst fucking thread that still makes no sense to the best thread ever.

[Laviticas]

Probably the reason, I moved to RR around 20 and looted my first uncut ruby off a Warf, never looked back. The x-wife and I would box hunt the mist until she would fall over from the weight, we made a fortune.

[Laviticas]

That reminds, didn't take like 3 weeks to hit the grade 10? Lol

[Androidpk]

3 months if you're me. That is, if you are talking about levels.

[Methais]

That reminds, didn't take like 3 weeks to hit the grade 10? Lol

http://www.troll.me/images/trailer-park-boys-ricky/it-doesnt-take-rocket-appliances-to-get-your-grade-10-thumb.jpg

[Laviticas]

Gah, looking through rose colored glasses. It makes me start playing again every time, then soon realise it's just not the same. It does not help I'm one of those people that thinks he can fix things and ends up going into political smash face mode and starts ripping on GM's and SIMU and pissing them off.

[Jhynnifer]

Gah, looking through rose colored glasses. It makes me start playing again every time, then soon realise it's just not the same. It does not help I'm one of those people that thinks he can fix things and ends up going into political smash face mode and starts ripping on GM's and SIMU and pissing them off.

Hahaha... they've taken some baby steps towards actually listening to their customer base, and while I hope it's a continuing trend I don't really think they're going to 180 their business model after 20+ years regardless of how bad it is.

[Androidpk]

Hahaha... they've taken some baby steps towards actually listening to their customer base, and while I hope it's a continuing trend I don't really think they're going to 180 their business model after 20+ years regardless of how bad it is.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JPa2mvSQ4

[Askip]

How did you hunt as a pure when you couldn't reassign stats OR skills?

Easy.

You got buffed with strength from a wizard, and you hunted Giant Rats.

Until Level. Fucking. Nine.

OMG that rang an old bell, I remember getting shit from a noob about being old enough the wield a mein broadsword when hunting thyrils and relnaks.

:D

[JackWhisper]

Yup. It happened allll the time back then. Not to mention, runestaves weren't released yet, and sword/board was a THING for pures back then.

[Askip]

I remember when I found my first true boxfound, like 2 decades ago.

Off a dark shamble in icemule, on my ranger.

A dented green imflass shield. +22.

That's all. Dented. Boss alter.

From a war troll box: a wire-handled black keyln lockpick.
The picker gave me 50k for it and I felt I'd won the game!

:D

[Elgrim]

In all my years I've never found a boxfound item worth mentioning. I must be cursed with the unlucky or something.

My most cherished item came from an HSN auction way back in like 1994 or 1995. I was the only rogue in the tent for my level range and won "a lockpick case". Inside the case were four picks, all with unique looks. One of the picks which was something like "an emerald handled gold lockpick" was determined to have been the highest rated known pick in the game after Sagan and I tested it on tons of boxes. I broke it several months later. Back then when a pick was broke it vanished. I was crushed.

[leifastagsweed]

In all my years I've never found a boxfound item worth mentioning.

Back in my day, we walked uphill both ways only to find rock crystals in our boxes...and we liked it! ;)

Haha, I feel your pain. I have never found anything worth shit. I hear the key is moving to RR and becoming a complete recluse.

[JackWhisper]

My best boxfound was..... yeah nothing worth a shit. In 20 years, I've never found a boxfound worth keeping. Ever.

[Silvean]

I found a unique scarf and pocketed cloak in 1996. Lost both to decay mechanics. I also found some ruby slippers with a Wizard of Oz reference in a Teras box.

Weirdest thing I ever found was "a funny thingie" sitting on the ground. I somehow realized it was a work in progress accidentally dropped by a GM, assisted to give it back, and receive a RPA. I wish I'd kept it now.

[Androidpk]

If we are strictly talking about items found in a box the only one of value I've found was an altered rolaren tower shield. Ended up donating it to GEMS for a raffle they held but they didn't end up raffling it. No idea who has it now.

[Viekn]

My best boxfound was..... yeah nothing worth a shit. In 20 years, I've never found a boxfound worth keeping. Ever.

That...is extremely disheartening. There should be a system and a GM who tracks that. Not sure how they're systems work, but would be nice if SIMU had a way to flag an account that hadn't found a random keep-worthy item in a box in X amount of years and they were then able to trigger an event that would put such an item in the next box you found. I would imagine if someone come code that, it wouldn't take much time or effort as the system would just be on autopilot to monitor the account activity and create a report every week of any accounts that had reached that X years mark without a really nice boxfind. Of course you'd have to code the really nice boxfound items to then somehow be linked to the history of the account in some way.

[Elgrim]

That...is extremely disheartening. There should be a system and a GM who tracks that. Not sure how they're systems work, but would be nice if SIMU had a way to flag an account that hadn't found a random keep-worthy item in a box in X amount of years and they were then able to trigger an event that would put such an item in the next box you found. I would imagine if someone come code that, it wouldn't take much time or effort as the system would just be on autopilot to monitor the account activity and create a report every week of any accounts that had reached that X years mark without a really nice boxfind. Of course you'd have to code the really nice boxfound items to then somehow be linked to the history of the account in some way.

While a purely awesome idea, and probably very easy to implement, I highly doubt it would ever be approved. They are taking steps forward this year by monitoring how many services an account gets, but I think this one will happen about the time Savants hit the table, which is to say...never.

Of course, I'm one of the bitter folks with no boxfounds, so I could be biased. :)

[JackWhisper]

Eh, it happens. Not everyone's lucky.

Friggin Gizmo got SIX tier 5's at EG last year. Nobody even got HALF that lucky as he did. I hate him a lot bit. Not just a little bit. A lot bit.

[Askip]

Eh, it happens. Not everyone's lucky.

Friggin Gizmo got SIX tier 5's at EG last year. Nobody even got HALF that lucky as he did. I hate him a lot bit. Not just a little bit. A lot bit.

Would you folks consider Enhancives as boxfounds? I forget what year they were introduced, but I think there was a ton of them dropping soon after the release.

I still remember this beauty from 2009, the first words out of Stunseed's mouth were "son of a bitch":

a gleaming vultite greathelm

weight 3 lb.

The magical harmonics reveal that the head and neck are better protected when wearing the vultite greathelm.

The greathelm resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 3 to Elemental Lore - Earth Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 21 times.
It provides a bonus of 5 to Logic Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 21 times.
It provides a bonus of 4 to Constitution Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
It provides a bonus of 3 to Shield Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 12 times.
The greathelm looks to have a lot of charges remaining.

You sense that the vultite greathelm will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

:D

[Laviticas]

Hahaha... they've taken some baby steps towards actually listening to their customer base, and while I hope it's a continuing trend I don't really think they're going to 180 their business model after 20+ years regardless of how bad it is.

But I can fix it, hulk smash

[Viekn]

Would you folks consider Enhancives as boxfounds? I forget what year they were introduced, but I think there was a ton of them dropping soon after the release.

I still remember this beauty from 2009, the first words out of Stunseed's mouth were "son of a bitch":

a gleaming vultite greathelm

weight 3 lb.

The magical harmonics reveal that the head and neck are better protected when wearing the vultite greathelm.

The greathelm resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 3 to Elemental Lore - Earth Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 21 times.
It provides a bonus of 5 to Logic Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 21 times.
It provides a bonus of 4 to Constitution Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
It provides a bonus of 3 to Shield Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 12 times.
The greathelm looks to have a lot of charges remaining.

You sense that the vultite greathelm will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

:D


I think enhancives like the one you mentioned count as a box found, within the parameters I think we are thinking of here in this thread. But not necessarily like the ones I've found so far: a <insert item name here>: it provides a bonus of 1 to <swimming, CON, hiding, etc.>

I'm not complaining, I'll still take the 10k from the gemshop vs. the 2k they would have normally given me.

[Viekn]

Askip, how old is your avatar picture? Those people in the background are using CRT monitors for cripes sake!

[Elgrim]

Askip, how old is your avatar picture? Those people in the background are using CRT monitors for cripes sake!

Its probably from Simucon 2013 based on the technology they are using today.

[Askip]

Askip, how old is your avatar picture? Those people in the background are using CRT monitors for cripes sake!

Good eye!

That picture was taken at the old King Henry VIII hotel (torn down for an airport runway addition) in St. Louis during the 1999 Simucon.

:D

P.S. I still have that t-shirt. It's one that Simu sold with the GS3 logo on the back, and my wife embroidered the Askip on the front using the same font in the logo. She also added the crossed sword and bolt below the name. Love that gal.

[Viekn]

Its probably from Simucon 2013 based on the technology they are using today.

Wait, that was a joke! Now I get it. Cause at first I was like "If you really think that was 2013, then I REALLY want to know where my $40 a month is being spent over there!"

[Elgrim]

Wait, that was a joke! Now I get it. Cause at first I was like "If you really think that was 2013, then I REALLY want to know where my $40 a month is being spent over there!"

Can't fool you :)

[Elbereth]

How about all those snooty level 80+ that never had to experience death's sting? Geez..

I didn't expect so much response to this. I really had no specific profound point to posting it. I should say that I'm sorry if it sounded like I was implying that all high level characters are snooty. I've encountered plenty of very friendly and helpful high level characters. The snooty few seem to have a way of making me storm off in a fit though.

I will also concede that death was hard before death's sting. I did play some way back when and I do remember getting my equipment scattered all over the room. Strangely, I have fond memories of that. For some reason, death's sting just seems more annoying to me. Just IMO.

[Elbereth]

I didn't expect so much response to this. I really had no specific profound point to posting it. I should say that I'm sorry if it sounded like I was implying that all high level characters are snooty. I've encountered plenty of very friendly and helpful high level characters. The snooty few seem to have a way of making me storm off in a fit though.

I will also concede that death was hard before death's sting. I did play some way back when and I do remember getting my equipment scattered all over the room. Strangely, I have fond memories of that. For some reason, death's sting just seems more annoying to me. Just IMO.

exp
Level: 43 Deeds: 0
Experience: 2011833 Death's Sting: Sharp
Exp. until next: 38167 Recent Deaths: 2
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 8698617
Physical TPs: 80 Mana: 144/144 max
(246 Phy converted to Mnt)

[Androidpk]

exp
Level: 43 Deeds: 0
Experience: 2011833 Death's Sting: Sharp
Exp. until next: 38167 Recent Deaths: 2
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 8698617
Physical TPs: 80 Mana: 144/144 max
(246 Phy converted to Mnt)

Always have deeds. Using dwarves cut rubies that you can buy is a great way to stock up on them. Stock up on some high grade chrisms as well and get yourself a chrism holder.

[Elbereth]

Thank you very much. ;-)

[JackWhisper]

Use the priestess to fix death sting. its cheap. yer only 43.

[Elbereth]

Use the priestess to fix death sting. its cheap. yer only 43.

That's a waste

[JackWhisper]

Um. No, actually, the like 20k+ xp you gain at what, 75% reduction speed is a waste. Because it wastes your gift as well.

[Androidpk]

That's a waste

It's more a waste to hunt with a high death sting, not to mention more dangerous with the CON loss.

[Allereli]

Um. No, actually, the like 20k+ xp you gain at what, 75% reduction speed is a waste. Because it wastes your gift as well.

it is a waste when salve is much cheaper

[Androidpk]

it is a waste when salve is much cheaper

Salve?

[Allereli]

Salve?

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Simucoin

[Haldrik]

Salve?

Real money item that costs 1$ in simucon store.

It's only worth it when the silver cost equals the real money cost.

And holy shit running around with no deeds when you are obviously prone to dying? That's like wearing no shirt in a gay bar and then complaining when you keep getting gropped by gay men.

There is system mechanics in place to mitigate death sting. Use those.

Step 1) Get deeds
OR
Step 1) No deeds? Get a chrism. Death sting is reduced.
OR
Step 1) Stop fucking departing. I'm going to assume you are departing because you are doing everything else wrong. Departing increases deaths sting.

AND

Step 2) Buy death sting potions. Hunting with 75% exp reduction means you are hunting X times longer then normal. This results in X more chances of dying. And the cycle repeats and only gets worse as your death piles up. If you bought the potions, you would be leveling faster and hopefully moving past your recent deaths because those also increase death sting.

[Astray]

Some of those prices hurt my eyes.

[Androidpk]

Grobbed.. lol. BTW, where has nocturnalrob been? I almkst miss having someone make fun of my fashion choices.

[Allereli]

It's only worth it when the silver cost equals the real money cost.

it's two rubs to clear all sting effects. you get 5 or 6 rubs per purchase. Even at the $1.00 cost (most expensive), it's worth it for a vast majority of characters

[Haldrik]

Grobbed.. lol. BTW, where has nocturnalrob been? I almkst miss having someone make fun of my fashion choices.

:( I edited it really fast.

[Androidpk]

:( I edited it really fast.

It's groped.

[Kaldonis]

The magic roll was indeed a 700 but the odds were really bad. In high school I remember having calculated it, and assumed 3 rolls per second, and I think it required like several years in the autoroller on average. (I can really try to make the estimate again if anyone wants, but I'd have to remember all the roll ranges. I had the program on a graphing calculator. The odds are definitely atrocious though and I doubt more than a few people ever got one in the game's history. Not to mention like, are you really going to by-pass a 690+?)

Kaldonis had a 672 which was the best I ever personally saw. I think it took 3 days of rolling to get it. The worst was coming to the computer, seeing a good roll, but your modem having dropped the connection. I know I lost at least one roll like that.

As far as the 30-days, why should I feel snide towards the younger folks? I saw that system and when I make a new character I just abuse the unholy hell out of it. I'm talking, fixskill into buff spells and mana (on ANY class), spell yourself up, fixskill out of them, go hunting. Multiple times per day. I figure, sure it's got this "insane cheating" feeling but, it's how they implemented the system and it's only 30 days.

[Gelston]

I had a 678 after 20 minutes of rolling. Then I demoniced at level 14 right after mastering CoL, because fuck deeds. My poor little character, Constan. :(

[JackWhisper]

Rolled the autoroller for 3 weeks straight. Used the enter key glitch to make it go faster, even though it skipped every like eighth roll. Ended up with a 684. Was very happy.

[Gelston]

Everytime I'd roll for too long, it'd find a roll while I'd be gone, and then the game would idle out. I was also using a super fast, blazing speed demon 14.4 modem.... Because fuck 28.8, even though they were the popular ones at the time.

[Methais]

That's a waste

No it's not.

[Elbereth]

How long do the "recent deaths" last?

[Candor]

How long do the "recent deaths" last?

From Krakiipedia: Recent Deaths are defined as the number of deaths that occurred within the last month or 50,000 experience, whichever comes first.

Personal note: I think "last month" means 30 days.

[Candor]

Everytime I'd roll for too long, it'd find a roll while I'd be gone, and then the game would idle out. I was also using a super fast, blazing speed demon 14.4 modem.... Because fuck 28.8, even though they were the popular ones at the time.

I remember a commercial about how far behind the times a family was because they had a 14.4K modem, and the hip family next door had a 28.8K modem.

[Methais]

I remember a commercial about how far behind the times a family was because they had a 14.4K modem, and the hip family next door had a 28.8K modem.

There was always one asshole with a 9600 modem making Doom lag for everyone.

[Candor]

As far as boxfounds, while I am a bit confused what this thread considers a "boxfound" item, if I understand the definition correctly I have found perhaps half a dozen in my time. But nothing was especially awesome - the best two were probably a 4x vultite shield that added 4 to TD (temporary) and a set of crit padded studded leather. I don't remember the amount of crit padding, but it wasn't high. I still have the shield collecting dust in a locker.

[Gelston]

As far as boxfounds, while I am a bit confused what this thread considers a "boxfound" item, if I understand the definition correctly I have found perhaps half a dozen in my time. But nothing was especially awesome - the best two were probably a 4x vultite shield that added 4 to TD (temporary) and a set of crit padded studded leather. I don't remember the amount of crit padding, but it wasn't high. I still have the shield collecting dust in a locker.

I never had any okay box finds until War camps came out and I soloed them.

The better stuff was still almost always weapons the critter genned with.

[Candor]

The better stuff was still almost always weapons the critter genned with.

Although I rarely do warcamps, that is also my experience. I have found a few 5x weapons, one 6x weapon, and two 2x claids off critters. Too bad none of the weapons above 4x were OHE (which is what I use).

[kcostell]

Only boxfound I've kept is a kilt with a nifty long description my rogue found in a cockatrice box.

[Timjirdos]

my locker's full of crap i've found in boxes. most of it is just that. crap. but i did find a veil iron battle axe the other day from a plane 5 box.