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Bluke
09-24-2014, 09:05 PM
Hey guys,
I've been searching around for a while and I cannot seem to find a formulas on any shield maneuvers such as shield bashing and shield charging. Anyone happen to know what the mechanics are? Also, does one's race have any impact? Obviously a Giantman should fair better at shield charging compared to a gnome, but is that how Gemstone sees things?
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Archigeek
09-24-2014, 09:13 PM
Yes, that is how it works. Roblar and I did some testing on it a while back and confirmed it. You should be able to find a chart on here somewhere. Giantkin get a bonus.
Fallen
09-24-2014, 09:14 PM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?91840-Shield-Bash-Modifiers&highlight=Shield+Bash
Here's some info from the PC. I'll keep digging but I imagine the PC is your best bet for detailed analysis of mechanics.
Bluke
09-24-2014, 09:23 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Do you think that there would be any major differences between a Giant performing a shield maneuver versus say a Half-krolvin?
Fallen
09-24-2014, 09:40 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Do you think that there would be any major differences between a Giant performing a shield maneuver versus say a Half-krolvin?
I think height of the creature versus height of the attacker is a factor, so if Giants are counted as being a different height than the Half-krol that may lead to some differences.
Bluke
09-29-2014, 06:52 PM
So I've tried both races, Giant and Krolvin up to level 10. Each with 100 strength, 90 dex, and 3x in shield use. Both hunted the same areas, used a tower shield, and had the same shield cmans. While I don't have any hard numbers, I noticed that I had a significantly easier time using shield bash and trample with the Krolvin, which isn't what I expected. I would have thought the Giantman's size would have provided a bonus but I didn't have nearly the same success rate. I wonder why this is
Jeril
09-29-2014, 07:36 PM
So I've tried both races, Giant and Krolvin up to level 10. Each with 100 strength, 90 dex, and 3x in shield use. Both hunted the same areas, used a tower shield, and had the same shield cmans. While I don't have any hard numbers, I noticed that I had a significantly easier time using shield bash and trample with the Krolvin, which isn't what I expected. I would have thought the Giantman's size would have provided a bonus but I didn't have nearly the same success rate. I wonder why this is
When you preform a combat maneuver you see something like this: [Roll result: 187 (open d100: 89) Bonus: 20]
The bold part is what you should be looking for to compare the two.
Bluke
10-04-2014, 06:30 PM
Hmm, I've only been receiving penalties, not bonuses.
[Roll result: 114 (open d100: 78) Penalties: 43]
Could that be since I am still a young character with little trample and tfocus ranks?
Aluvius
10-04-2014, 07:31 PM
Yes. Also shield maneuvers are affected by stance so if you are doing them in defensive then you'll have penalties.
Jeril
10-04-2014, 08:54 PM
Hmm, I've only been receiving penalties, not bonuses.
[Roll result: 114 (open d100: 78) Penalties: 43]
Could that be since I am still a young character with little trample and tfocus ranks?
You get penalties for attempting them against larger targets, for limb wounds and scars(minor scars don't count). Also being under trained for your armor and being too heavy.
Bluke
10-04-2014, 09:35 PM
Under trained for your armor... bingo. Much appreciated.
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