How do I look at 22?

[Andrath]

Andrath (at level 22), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 148 48
Shield Use.........................| 148 48
Combat Maneuvers...................| 124 32
Edged Weapons......................| 148 48
Ambush.............................| 148 48
Physical Fitness...................| 99 23
Dodging............................| 148 48
Harness Power......................| 10 2
Stalking and Hiding................| 148 48
Perception.........................| 148 48
Climbing...........................| 25 5
Swimming...........................| 25 5
Pickpocketing......................| 148 48

Just wondering if I'm sittin good at level 22 with these skills, and when the hell will I get redux?

[Drew2]

Looks like a pretty fun physical character to me. A little cookie cutter, but hardcore physical.

Only thing I can think of is maybe more Physical Fitness.

[StrayRogue]

If you're going pure physical, 2x CM.

[Izalude]

I'd drop a few shield ranks for more physical fitness ranks as well as doubling in CM.

[Artha]

From what I hear, 1xing shield works better. You might consider doing that and using the spare points to pump up other skills.

[Andrath]

1x shield? Wont I lose DS like crazy? Cutting off 22 ranks of shield?

2x CMAN? why, it's 1 as/ds per 5 ranks, and I dont like manuevers anyways..ambushing works fine.

The more PT sounds good, but isnt there a cap on HP?

[Meos]

PT is your main redux skill.

[Artha]

1x shield? Wont I lose DS like crazy? Cutting off 22 ranks of shield?
Maybe, I don't know the numbers offhand. If you grab a small shield you'll get an outright 10-15% DS boost as well as evade more, which'll help. You'll have more points to spend elsewhere, though, which is the real goal.


2x CMAN? why, it's 1 as/ds per 5 ranks, and I dont like manuevers anyways..ambushing works fine.
It's 1 AS every even rank. Not sure about DS, but probably the same. Maneuvers are also great helps occasionally, even if it's passive ones like wspec. Your guild skills will work better as well.


The more PT sounds good, but isnt there a cap on HP?
Like Meos said, PT is mostly for redux after you hit your health cap.


and when the hell will I get redux?
You'll almost definitely have some by 30, and probably earlier.

[AnticorRifling]

If you're ambushing you shouldn't rely on the little DS you gain from 2x'ing shield. The idea of an ambushing rogue is to not be out long enough to get hit. You should also learn to love shadow mastery and silent strike.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Artha

2x CMAN? why, it's 1 as/ds per 5 ranks, and I dont like manuevers anyways..ambushing works fine.
It's 1 AS every even rank. Not sure about DS, but probably the same. Maneuvers are also great helps occasionally, even if it's passive ones like wspec. Your guild skills will work better as well.


Did they change that? I thought it used to be 1 AS every 2 ranks.

[AnticorRifling]

It's still 1 as per 2 ranks.

[Artha]

Did they change that? I thought it used to be 1 AS every 2 ranks.

Same thing.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Artha

Did they change that? I thought it used to be 1 AS every 2 ranks.

Same thing.

That must be that "new math" I've been hearing about.

[Artha]

Even ranks:
2
4
6
8
10
12
14
16
18
20

Every 2 ranks:
2
4
6
8
10
12
14
16
18
20

[Andrath]

OK well..it all sounds good but guess what? Fixskills is used and skill goals takes in-game hours and its insane to untrain 22 ranks because I won't get the points forever..

[StrayRogue]

22 ranks is nothing.

Whine when you're in my position:

Trading............................| 297 197.633 100

[Edited on 5-10-04 by StrayRogue]

[Andrath]

So then everyone thinks I should 1x shield and more PT and CM?

Edited to say: But I just bought a 5x medium shield...do I HAVE to get a small shield to incur the evasion and DS bonus?


[Edited on 10-5-2004 by Andrath]

[AnticorRifling]

Doesn't matter. YOU'RE GONNA BE HIDING!!

[Alfster]

Originally posted by Andrath
So then everyone thinks I should 1x shield and more PT and CM?

Edited to say: But I just bought a 5x medium shield...do I HAVE to get a small shield to incur the evasion and DS bonus?


[Edited on 10-5-2004 by Andrath]

My rogue is 1x shields, 2x cm, 1.5x PT, and 2x dodge

he uses a 5x medium shield, and it works out perfectly

[Trinitis]

No no no - THIS is a purely Physical Training plan.



(at level 20), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 166 66
Combat Maneuvers...................| 144 44
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 144 44
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 96 22
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Dodging............................| 144 44
Harness Power......................| 25 5
Perception.........................| 30 6
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Training Points: 0 Phy 102 Mnt (174 Mnt converted to Phy)

[Andrath]

Well I don't use 2h and MOC I looked at and can't do CM and MOC, You don't have shield points at all..thats why. 134hrs till I'm actually 23 because I placed the goals and apparently it wont set my skills that I had CURRENT tp's for until the other tp's from shielding is recovered. Is that right?

[Trinitis]

of course I don't have a shield, I use a claidhmore ;)

When you make things asplode on contact..who needs to block? That, and I'll be working up to 3x dodge ;)

[Artha]

Edited to say: But I just bought a 5x medium shield...do I HAVE to get a small shield to incur the evasion and DS bonus?

If you were using a big sheild before, your DS will still be higher. But yes, to get the bonus (meaning better than average, which would be medium) you need to get a small shield.

edit:
Aone > Adredrin's rogue

Aone (at level 37), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Armor Use 120 30
Combat Maneuvers 157 57
Two-Handed Weapons 178 78
Ambush 136 38
Physical Fitness 156 56
Dodging 214 114
Harness Power 5 1
Survival 138 39
Stalking and Hiding 176 76
Perception 138 39
Climbing 70 15
First Aid 138 39
Trading 62 13

[Edited on 10-5-2004 by Artha]