View Full Version : Simple Question: GoS Banes + thrown weapons...
nocturnix
09-06-2014, 09:30 AM
I assume they work with thrown weapons, but wanted to confirm before i head down the sunfist path.
Has anyone tested and confirmed the AS bonus AND crit bonuses work with thrown weapons?
Thanks.
Buckwheet
09-06-2014, 09:31 AM
AS bonus for sure. I can't prove the weighting does.
nocturnix
09-06-2014, 09:35 AM
I assume if the AS portion works, then the crit should too. How would one test it?
MrMortimur
09-06-2014, 04:37 PM
So I was going to respond and copy/paste from both KP and from the official website...and surprisingly enough GoS isn't even on the officials. I realize the officials are in desperate need of a revamp to be useful but just Wow.
5 Sigil of Minor Bane Adds +5 AS and grants heavy damage weighting to melee, ranged and bolt attacks.*
15 Sigil of Major Bane Adds +10 AS and heavy crit weighting to melee, ranged and bolt attacks.*
Note: The AS bonus provided by the Sigils of Minor/Major Bane apply to any enemy, but the respective damage/critical weighting applies only to hated foes.
I believe easiest way to test would be to use Minor Bane and hurl until you manage a 101 endroll which should yield 11? damage. Heavy weighting would be +10 damage on top of what the 101 roll would do which I believe is 1.
Wrathbringer
09-06-2014, 04:39 PM
So I was going to respond and copy/paste from both KP and from the official website...and surprisingly enough GoS isn't even on the officials.
I'm shocked.
Donquix
09-06-2014, 05:22 PM
So I was going to respond and copy/paste from both KP and from the official website...and surprisingly enough GoS isn't even on the officials. I realize the officials are in desperate need of a revamp to be useful but just Wow.
5 Sigil of Minor Bane Adds +5 AS and grants heavy damage weighting to melee, ranged and bolt attacks.*
15 Sigil of Major Bane Adds +10 AS and heavy crit weighting to melee, ranged and bolt attacks.*
Note: The AS bonus provided by the Sigils of Minor/Major Bane apply to any enemy, but the respective damage/critical weighting applies only to hated foes.
I believe easiest way to test would be to use Minor Bane and hurl until you manage a 101 endroll which should yield 11? damage. Heavy weighting would be +10 damage on top of what the 101 roll would do which I believe is 1.
calculating the damage weighting is working to some capacity should be trivial assuming you aren't hitting something with some kind of damage reduction or padding. use a dart or something with a super low damage factor.
Aluvius
09-06-2014, 06:03 PM
Its under Organizations and Societies on the officials. :)
Alashir
09-06-2014, 06:56 PM
Officials need more categories IMO.
MrMortimur
09-06-2014, 09:12 PM
If you're referring to the forums, I know there is a topic there. I meant on the actual gemstone.net site where you could look up oh races, professions, metals, flora and fauna.
Aluvius
09-07-2014, 12:30 AM
Ah, I hear you. What is even more shocking is that the updated paladin spell circle is already on the website, I expected it to take months. :)
Donquix
09-07-2014, 12:38 AM
Ah, I hear you. What is even more shocking is that the updated paladin spell circle is already on the website, I expected it to take months. :)
Seems like editing new existing they do quickly, net new take awhile. Unless it's for an event they charge for, then that shit be popin. Webistes? How does that shit work?
DaCapn
09-08-2014, 12:20 PM
Weighting isn't applied unless a rank 1 critical is naturally achieved. It's conceivable that the sigil works differently, but I'd doubt it.
You basically need to check that you're inflicting higher ranked criticals than would otherwise be predicted from what the max would otherwise be. You need to go at it for a little while to be able to throw away criticals that have been randomized down.
droit
09-08-2014, 05:51 PM
The weighting from banes does affect hurling weapons.
Without Minor Bane:
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an ice pick into flight.
You throw an ice pick at an arctic titan!
AS: +135 vs DS: +94 with AvD: +13 + d100 roll: +97 = +151
... and hit for 5 points of damage!
Quick slash at the arctic titan's left eye.
Strike lands but misses the target.
Bad angle. The ice pick fails to stick in an arctic titan.
Roundtime: 4 sec..
With Minor Bane:
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an ice pick into flight.
You throw an ice pick at an arctic titan!
AS: +140 vs DS: +95 with AvD: +13 + d100 roll: +86 = +144
... and hit for 14 points of damage!
Attack bumps an eyebrow.
Oh! So close!
Lacking the force and angle to lodge in an arctic titan, the ice pick simply falls.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
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